Does anyone know is there a reason why they got rid of dislike? I’d have thought they’d want it to help improve recommendations?
So, what are good alternatives to YouTube and how do I get there?
I remember Reddit used to have the ability to show both upvote and downvotes. I miss that feature.
Lemmy has this feature which is really nice… -20 points doesn’t show +20 and -40. It mentally feels a lot better to know that 20 people agreed with you even if more people disagreed
Terrible news: you actually can get the breakdown, including who voted up or down.
I often wonder if that is the reason Reddit dropped it, to make controlling and influencing the user base easier? A joke example, seeing +100 to -99 votes regarding the sacrilege or glory of pineapple on pizza is a lot different then just +1 or -1
Reddit’s shadow ban system is another part of why I don’t trust them. Plenty of times I’ve seen posts where metadata says there are multiple comments but instead its empty without even the
[]trail. Could be just their distributed database taking its sweet ass time to become consistent or maybe those people are on some sort of shit list?For myself I know I keep saying something that results in me getting some extra attention from an LLM because I keep getting sub 30 second instant bans and warnings for ambiguous comments that sound threatening but aren’t. I lost a 20 year old account because of the comment “We should never have killed that fucking bear” being determined as advocating violence.
I kept getting shadow banned constantly. My comments ending up with 1 view no up or down votes. For completely arbitrary reasons as well. And I got completely banned from a few communities by accidentally using extremist terminology (?).
And yes I don’t doubt they removed it for a reason, it makes it a much less friendly place. Like you’re putting down and directly affecting the other person rather than just disagreeing. It’s hard to explain.
accidentally using extremist terminology
That’s similar to how I learned about Reddit’s stance on punching Nazis.
When you remove the value of dislikes, it also removes the value of likes to users.
Any service only cares about engagement so the dislike was never really useful because the core of engagement is rage bait. The only way to truly downvote content is to not engage with it whatsoever. Ex. The only way to dislike Instagram is to not use the platform
The problem is that sometimes you can’t know whether the content is worth engaging until you view it. At least YouTube shorts still have the “Don’t recommend channel” option.
True but one can mitigate engagement. View < comment < like < share < follow and so on (not exactly sure of the order but you get the idea). Maybe the best would be to block the account after following or report the content, that is short of leaving the platform all together.
Yes! I’m not on insta or TikTok, but people will share horrible things like “can you believe they said this?” And yes, quite frankly I can because here you are commenting on it and sharing it. It’s like people don’t understand the concept of engagement. If someone has a video abusing their child, just report the video and potentially send it to the authorities if needed. Don’t comment and share the video!
YouTube could only envy Pornhub.
Pornhub has way better content
AND they even have porn, too!
Better volume controls also
This is crucial
You see them on SmarTube. But I imagine, like most voting on the internet, it snowballs from whatever tilt it initially showed. People be herds like that. They’ll dislike or disagree with something, but change that opinion once they see what “most” others think at that time. Even if it’s 2 Likes and 1 Dislike.
And that is a fantastic pathway for engagement and ad revenue. “Markets” or market segmentation, are just our fancy terms for herds.
Everyone is upvoting this comment so I must downvote to prove I’m not part of the herd
Name something more useless than the dislike button in comments
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This has always confused me.
I’ve never liked, disliked, rated, commented, or shared a Youtube video. Because I’m using Freetube, I technically don’t even subscribe anymore. Why are y’all so eager to maintain the algorithm? Does “disliking” a video feel like agency?
If you really wanna punish Youtube creators, watch their video for less than 30 seconds. That won’t count as a view, but I bet the algorithm clocks it as a dislike.
What a goofy take lol
There are creators I follow who don’t make videos full time because the money isn’t there yet for them, but they make good videos. Sponsoring them on Pateron helps them financially, but doesn’t help them grow. if I can signal that this is good content and more people should see it, that helps the creator out and encourages more of that type of content to be created.
Just like I thought. You think it’s your civic duty to train Google’s algorithm in the hopes that it may favor the stuff you like.
You’re a model consumer. I’ll bet you pause the ads when you leave the room.
Yeah, you know, you’re right. Fuck me for wanting the people who make good content to be paid and recognized for their hard work.
Because it doesn’t make sense from user perspective. I watched Justin Bieber Baby, I watched Rebecca Black Friday and I started watching Bohemian rhapsody but didn’t continue as I’ve heard it alot lately. YouTube assumed I liked the two other songs and hated Queen.
See the problem? YouTube suggestions were so much better years ago, now it feels like way too much scrolling to find something good
they actually changed the algorithm. it used to be preference based, but now its attention based. the people who want the dislike back want the older algorithm back because likes/dislikes used to matter, the shit would sink and the gold would float. ragebait wasn’t the norm back then.
