Kind of random but I hope they do the game comparisons not just with GTA 4 & 5 but also GTA clones like Watchdogs or even Cyberpunk 2077.
For all the graphical “upgrades” we’ve gotten, the physics and dynamic open world has fallen far behind.
What’s the point of all that graphic fidelity if NPCs still act like scripted bots from Skyrim?
Sony gamers are just like iphone users
We boycott Sony?
Is rockstar owned by Sony?
I’m out. I know that it wont amount to much in the grand scheme of things. I switched from a pure Playstation background (owned 1 through 5 on release day and had hundreds of games for each generation) over to PC. I wont partake in this, and I have spent thousands of hours with GTA.
Between Playatation being shitty and now Rockstar being extra shitty, I’m out.
I’ll be honest, I haven’t touched a GTA since Vice City on the PC.
You should play gta4 it’s a masterpiece
Liberty city stories on the psp on my end. I got the last one or PC installed it played it for two days and then I threw it out after playing multi-player and the only thing people wanted to do was heist.
Modded private servers are actually really good for the last GTA but yeah the official GTAO experience is ass. And private servers will probably suck for 6 since they bought out CFX.
I’ll boycott it like I boycotted Concord. Or Cleopatra. Or Dr. Who. Or SuperGirl. Or Mixtape. Or Odyssey by Nolan. I’ll do nothing and destroy them, I’ll watch them burn doing nothing and being happy
Post-covid inflation proved to companies that customers will pay up regardless because they want it and they want it now, no matter the price. Hell, we laughed at horse armor but microtransactions caught on anyway. Voting with your wallet doesn’t work because there are an endless swarm of consoomers itching to blow their money on product.
Consent is actually way cheaper to make than a product that’s good for people.
Sad reality
Do not preorder anything ever
Especially digital stuff. What are they going to do, run out of bytes?
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Yepp I learned that lesson with Destiny 2
Oh I’ll preorder from soft games. Preorder when you trust the source and they don’t have a history of fuckery.
I’m not sure why we’re surprised.
This entire gen has had spotty coverage of physical games at the best of times. Even on the biggest titles.
Just off the top of my head BG3 wasn’t even available on disc, and Indiana Jones was only in some overpriced collector’s edition.
I guess the odd way GTA6 is putting a code in a box is grabbing the headlines, rather than it just not being available on a disc.
I think it’s more that we still think of consoles as something you put media into. We have all but abandoned physical media on PCs for over a decade now. I love not having to deal with finding space for discs, but I don’t trust anything anymore so I feel like it’s only a matter of time before I lose access to things I bought
It’s still a pretty big deal because rockstar games are huge and some people still have bad internet. I probably wouldn’t have bought RDR2 on PS4 if it didn’t have a physical copy of the game, precisely because I was keeping that console at my parent’s place to have something to do there despite their terrible internet connection.
GTA 6 won’t come out for Linux. So not buying it is easy
AFAIK, Rockstar usually releases for PC a year or more after consoles. I believe GTA 5 will run on Linux with story mode, but not online mode due to the anti-cheat rootkit . Is there an indication that 6 will be different?
LPT is always in the comments
So I was watching JoeFromSeattle and he basically has an observation/theory from repeatedly interacting with these people on Twitter.
… They literally do not count themselves as ‘gamers’, they use the word to identify others.
These are the people who buy Madden/FIFA every year, every COD, every Battlefield, and assume everyone does that, to the point of projecting it without realizing it and then not believing you if you say you didn’t do that as well.
… they are very often illiterate, cannot understand sentences above roughly Grade 5 complexity, always assume they are correct and work backwards to attempt to form a justification for whatever they’ve decided is corrrect.
… they’re morons.
Like just… complete fucking morons.
And that’s not an insult, its simply accurate.
It’s always fun going through Facebook marketplace and seeing consoles for sale with their “game collection” which is just 10 boxes with the yearly iterations of FIFA and CoD.
I think you’ve hit the nail on the head there and I’ll extend as someone who used to love sports games, I haven’t physically bought one since like Xbox 360 when I think my system was bundled with it. All sports games are digital now because it’s the same goddamn game at this point with roster updates what is the bloody point? Lol
So even then I agree but I don’t think it’s just that they’re morons they are either disingenuous morons or truly stupid because I sense a lot of them are not buying physical media of their FIFA or NBA games anymore.
Used game stores back this up. What you see at used game stores now are the ever popular mainstream shit that has no replay value, where are all the FIFA copies? Oh right everyone downloads now.
You know what you don’t see at gamestop? Elden ring. It’s good. Replay value high.
You know what else you don’t see at gamestop? Clair obscura. It’s new. Physical media is dead.
I appreciate the perspective and refinement of the idea.
Yeah, I’m in the crowd of like, bought a Madden game once, had decent fun with it… and then realized the business model is just ‘add two features, take 2 away’, every fucking year and the whole thing is a scam.
I’m looking for actually new kinds of gameplay, something novel, or maybe a hodgepodge of mechanics tuned or arranged in a new kind of way, or like, absolutely perfected.
Either that or compelling stories and characters, or something with a really distinct art/graphical style.
Like uh, Clair Obscura arguably checks at least most of those boxes for most people… Elden Ring is basically the ‘perfected’ version of Dark Souls, etc.
But yeah… either disingenuous or just truly stupid, as you put it.
Corporate Serfs is the word you may be looking for
I’m sorry but if you’re not playing at least one of those games every year, you are the minority. Those people who constantly buy and play games are more of a “gamer” than a judgemental arse like yourself. Those games you criticise are by FAR the most played and bought games every year, played by tens of millions of people - the majority of gamers.
People like you give “gamers” a bad name.
Oh my god one of you actually showed up!
I’d ask you what its like to so thoroughly lack self awareness, but unfortunately, you wouldn’t be able to tell me, by definition.
Also just no, your ‘facts’ are bullshit.
You know what category of games consistently earn the most revenue?
Mobile games. Cell phone games. That’s over half of the money getting spent on video games.
The majority of gamers, people who play video games, people who spend money on video games… they play gacha games on phones… they’re not perennial Madden/FIFA/COD players.
So if you don’t have a gacha game waifu… you’re actually in the minority too.
So yeah… fundamentally ignorant, extremely overconfident… wanna check any more of those boxes, buddy?
Just imagine me bouncing a ball off of your forehead repeatedly, I’m sure that’ll put you in the right mind state for this.
How are they giving gamers a bad name? Even assuming they’re wrong, how does that work? They give gamers a bad name because they got a statistic wrong? Makes no fucking sense.
They just called the MAJORITY of the video game buying population “fucking morons”, and “nOt ReAl GaMeRs” because they have a different opinion to them, even though that opinion is the overwhelmingly popular opinion.
You don’t see how that gives “gamers” a bad name? Gatekeeping “gamers” to the tiny minority of people who buy physical games, don’t buy the biggest and most played games, and calling everyone else a fucking moron?
Ahahah!
No, no… you can’t read that well, can you?
Try again buddy, go … slower this time, understand how qualified statements work, and keep in mind the entire context of what I said.
You’ve concluded that I said a whole bunch of things that I did not say.
Apparently I’ve triggered you quite seriously… I wasn’t intending to, but uh… yeah, try again, try to read the words that I actually said.
They’re gatekeeping gaming and calling people who don’t interact with games the way they do morons. It’s childish and, whether it’s wrong or not, rude. The upvotes are what gives gamers a bad name, though, not his statement.
I don’t understand why people are piling on and blocking you. The comment you’re replying to is whiny gatekeeping with a name-calling bow on top. They accuse this group of excluding themselves from “gamers” while calling them stupid and criticizing the way they entertain themselves. I don’t know that I’d want to be in a group that talks about me like that, either.
Officially the first account I block on lemmy. Ain’t no way this isn’t AI-generated rage bait.
Oh no, whatever will I do……
You just proved their point…
Nothing I said remotely proves his point.
I mean, I play a lot of video games. I don’t identify as a gamer mostly because of the gamergate bullshit connotations.
There’s a distinction between gamer and capital G Gamer
That’s exactly it. It used to just mean “People who played games.” Then it got soiled and politicized.
So to their point, yeah, there’s huge groups of people that don’t care about “gamer problems” because they don’t see themselves as “those people”, even as they…buy and play lots of games.
They sell us out as well as themselves, and are completely oblivious to the consequences.
you’re making a lot of faulty assumptions, primarily that people who either don’t play or identify as gamers do not care about problems in gaming.
I still haven’t played GTA 4 or 5. I own them (got 'em cheap long after release) but I haven’t gotten around to playing them yet. Maybe by the time I have GTA 6 will be a reasonable price.
Remember the words of Guybrush Threepwood:
They’re fine.
The hype is inordinate
I felt GTA V was boring, and it had unnecessary glamorisation of criminal life. The story was also pretty mid.
I really liked GTA IV, especially the DLCs, the story is intertwined with the three characters really well. The driving was much more realistic in 4.
I don’t have the GTA IV DLCs. Just the original PS3 disc.
I could have sworn it was Elaine
edit well that’s not what i was expecting but i’m leaving itLOL was gonna say that doesn’t sound like Stan 😂
Rockstar peaked with Red Dead Redemption 2.
They peaked with their last game they released? And you know this how?
Because the GTA remastered trilogy was a joke and Rockstar had several notorious employment issues in the 8 years since RDR2 released.
I mean it’s entirely possible they could rebound but this game has every rug pull flag written all over it.
Rockstar peaked with Table Tennis.
True next gen game
Unironically their best game. All my friends though it’s a joke when i wanted to play withe them.
It does feel like the average person has the self control of a toddler.
Most people just accept anything as “the way it is”. They can’t reason why things are the way they are beyond a certain point, and that’s well before they reach the point where they realize they are being taken advantage of.
It has to be a thing that has a very direct cause and effect for them to not accept it. Like COVID lockdowns for example.
It’s more about personal principles and values, not self control. I make impulsive purchases all the time, but exactly 0% of them goes to scummy piece of shit corporations whose board of directors should be put on death row.
There’s an element of self control to sticking to values. I’ve seen people proclaim like they’re going to boycott EA because of various reasons, but then some shiny new game comes out and those values fall.
Maybe they never really had he values in the first place.
The ‘everyone is 12’ joke-theory is actually just essentially true.
In the US, the average adult person in fact is no more literate or ‘numerate’ than a 12 year old, a 5th grader.
The average person literally is a tween, in terms of higher thought capacity.
Again… this is not a joke, it is just actually true.
Apply George Carlin logic to this.
50% of American adults are less mentally capable than 12 year olds.
"Think about how stupid the average person can be.
Half of the population is even dumber!"
I don’t think they care as much as you think they do, it is how the average person would have purchased the game regardless
Exactly. The people showing their real level of intellect are the people who seem to be unable to understand the facts of the situation, think that they know better than the company who actually manufactures and sells the things, and call everyone else dumb and unintelligent for not agreeing with their factually incorrect opinion.
think that they know better than the company who actually manufactures and sells the things,
Do you think corporations have your best interest in mind? The company who makes and sells GTA wants to make money. That’s it. That’s the sum total of their intent.
No, absolutely not, and I didn’t even hint at that.
I’m saying that Sony know the exact number of physical games that are printed and sold vs the number of digital games. They know that it’s 10:1 in favour of digital. That’s why they’re doing this. It’s best for their bottom line.
Dude, just how much do you enjoy the taste of boot leather?
Ah yes, one of the clearest ways to show your intelligence and how right you are is to go straight to calling people bootlickers. You sure showed me. Definitely not a sign of being more akin to a whiney child. Not at all.
You’re literally sucking boot for toxic corporate practices, what else do you call that if not a bootlicking?
Enjoy your slop.
I don’t understand this. Do something else.
Somebody do something
Somebody that you used to know
Somebody find me somebody to love
Some BODY
And they don’t stop coming
It’s another Saturday night and I ain’t got!
Somebody do somebody
The entire generation after the Millenials are impulsive and raised entirely on being nickeled and dimed to death.
They charge they phones, eat hot chip, and lie.
I assume you’re being downvoted because this is true for every generation for the past 150 years, give or take. However, I agree that it’s gotten so much worse over the past ~20. Since phones, microtransactions, and subscriptions have become the norm, it’s accelerated to an astounding degree.
we ain’t getting paid in scrip yet. got paid in tacos a few times. those were some of the better gigs actually.
Didn’t even know I was honestly. I guess there is a nuance that comes with explaining a position like mine. It was 100% in sympathy of the newer generations, not an attack. They’re so overwhelmed with subscriptions, FOMO, and legally children’s gambling like loot boxes that it’s fucking depressing.
