Can you please answer in the context of what we’re actually talking about? This EO does not “claim trans people don’t exist” which was the lawyers statement. This EO is saying that trans people are excluded from the military - how can it do that while also saying trans people don’t exist? That makes no sense. They need to exist in order to exclude them.
It’s not saying “gender dysphoria is not a diagnosis that exists anywhere” it’s saying “believing yourself to be transgender is a substantial enough mental illness and flaw in character so as to preclude military service.”
This claims that having gender dysphoria is some sort of deficiency, and not just a non-standard identifier. This invalidates the identity of trans people, and calls into question their legitimacy.
It’s literally acknowledging their existence - the exact opposite of what some, including the lawyer, are saying.
Like it or not, gender dysphoria is a mental condition. Your brain is telling you that you’re “born in the wrong body”. That’s not saying its a bad thing, just that it is a thing - like anorexia where your brain tells you that you’re fat when you’re not.
The debate around which mental conditions make you not able to perform military service is definitely something that needs to be delved into more, but that doesn’t stop an administration from making a decision to start from.
No, I have. You’re just too stubborn to accept it. You made up your mind long before this conversation. No answer i give will be enough. You’ve decided they’re fine based on your textual interpretation.
You’re defending bigots. It’s a bad look and I don’t want to talk to you anymore. Have a good one.
You haven’t, and you can’t, because if it was denying trans people exist then the entire EO wouldn’t make any sense because it would be prohibiting people that don’t exist from serving in the military.
Can you please answer in the context of what we’re actually talking about? This EO does not “claim trans people don’t exist” which was the lawyers statement. This EO is saying that trans people are excluded from the military - how can it do that while also saying trans people don’t exist? That makes no sense. They need to exist in order to exclude them.
It’s not saying “gender dysphoria is not a diagnosis that exists anywhere” it’s saying “believing yourself to be transgender is a substantial enough mental illness and flaw in character so as to preclude military service.”
This claims that having gender dysphoria is some sort of deficiency, and not just a non-standard identifier. This invalidates the identity of trans people, and calls into question their legitimacy.
It’s literally acknowledging their existence - the exact opposite of what some, including the lawyer, are saying.
Like it or not, gender dysphoria is a mental condition. Your brain is telling you that you’re “born in the wrong body”. That’s not saying its a bad thing, just that it is a thing - like anorexia where your brain tells you that you’re fat when you’re not.
The debate around which mental conditions make you not able to perform military service is definitely something that needs to be delved into more, but that doesn’t stop an administration from making a decision to start from.
I said what is happening. Legalese nonsense is not a substantive argument nor does it undo what they are attempting to do. This is erasure.
OK so you can’t show how this “denies that trans people exist”. We got there in the end.
No, I have. You’re just too stubborn to accept it. You made up your mind long before this conversation. No answer i give will be enough. You’ve decided they’re fine based on your textual interpretation.
You’re defending bigots. It’s a bad look and I don’t want to talk to you anymore. Have a good one.
You haven’t, and you can’t, because if it was denying trans people exist then the entire EO wouldn’t make any sense because it would be prohibiting people that don’t exist from serving in the military.