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      Wait, who colonized Argentina? And wait who was first to the Falkland Islands? I genuinely don’t understand why you think Argentina wanting the Falkland Islands has anything to do with opposition to colonialism.

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      Opposing colonialism is being a sore loser now?

      Please recount to me the tales of how the Falklands war ended up going in the 1980s. I’m fascinated by your take.

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      You are aware that the first inhabitants of the Falklands were French? There was nobody to be colonised.

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          Does Argentina belong to the Spanish? Why do you think Argentina should take them? Who lived in Argentina before the Spanish came? Who lived in the Falkland islands, nobody.

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            Let’s recap islands history:

            Deserted, no permanent population.

            French set up a settlement.

            English makes another, fight the French.

            Spain buys French port, fights British.

            Britain leaves.

            Spain leaves.

            Deserted, no permanent population.

            Argentina sets up a settlement.

            England comes back, fight them off.

            Conclusion: “rightfully British”? The law seems to be whoever smacks the other in the teeth and takes it by force, so I suppose that’s accurate.

            However, having had a settlement in the island, Argentina’s claim is as valid as the UKs, and they just got smacked in the teeth so my verdict is that Argentina takes over administrative control over the Islands up until such time as they meet again in a world cup.

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              You’ve still not explained why Argentina should be allowed to colonise it and Britain shouldnt.

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                No one should colonise anything. But the difference between Argentina and The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland (God save the King) is as vast as, well, the distance between London and any point in South America

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            Because “sail around the world and claim what you want” is fucking great if you’re playing Monopoly. Less great to sort out world affairs in a modern world.

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              But if the islands were empty before? Like there’s islands who have thousands of years of history of people living there. But then there’s also those who just doesn’t. Are they supposed to stay empty? All humans always bad, or something?

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                  You have to be one of the dumbest people I’ve ever interacted with on this platform, and that’s genuinely saying something.

                  You’re completely unable to make a coherent case for your beliefs, and all your arguments basically amount to “it just is”

                  Good luck with life, I guess.

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          Ah, yes, the fact that prehistoric Fuegians may have visited the Falklands surely means they’re the birthright of Argentina. Airtight anti-colonialist explanation.

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              Literally no one was there when France landed there, so you can either a) ask France and Spain for their thoughts, b) resurrect the Fuegians who visited and let them have it, forcibly deporting the people who’ve lived there for centuries, or c) disregard pragmatism and say they aren’t part of any country – either way, you can stop obnoxiously trying to defend Argentina’s baseless colonialist claim under the guise of “anticolonialism”.

              To the extent it belongs to anyone, it obviously belongs to the UK far more than it does to the asshurt losers who flaccidly tried and utterly failed to assert sovereignty over it.

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                it obviously belongs to the UK far more

                No land “belongs” to anyone, least of all to the asshurt losers who flaccidly tried and utterly failed to keep their empire alive

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                  So if no land belongs to anyone, the only people who’s opinion should count are the people actually fucking living there, no? Who want, pretty much universally, to remain under uk rule. Who owns the bit of rock is far less important than the thoughts of the population that live there. And they think “fuck off argentina”