I hate to sound defeatist, but the US will never recover in its current form. The US political system is too right-leaning, and the right wing propaganda machine and cuts to education have done irreparable damage.
We need a complete change in trajectory to recover, and left unchecked the GOP and DNC will burn the country to the ground before they let that happen. Nothing short of a French medieval device will do.
I hate to sound defeatist, but the US will never recover in its current form. The US political system is too right-leaning, and the right wing propaganda machine and cuts to education have done irreparable damage.
I don’t believe its impossible.
Its very improbable, but the sudden rise of democratic socialists and massive support thats forming around them does open up possibilities, if enough of them get elected to power, they could start to right the ship. Get even more into offices, and they could start undoing bullshit and passing fresh new laws, for the people, not the powerful.
I don’t believe the end of our current political system means we all die, it hopefully means the shitheads in charge face consequences and we get a system in place that doesn’t let this happen again.
I’m a Canadian but I strongly suspect the US will never fully recover from where they are now. Even just consider international relations - Trump has irreparably damaged America’s relationship with Canada. I seriously doubt Canada will ever fully trust the USA again.
A stark contrast to 10 years ago when we had one of the strongest allied relationships on the planet.
I doubt anyone fully trusted the USA to begin with. Its not like betraying deals and acting against friends is a sudden new development afterall.
but I do think, if we can start to cut the cancer out of the country, you would find a lot of the world welcoming the US back, if for nothing else than their own personal interests… probably mostly as a geopolitical counterweight to china.
You’re not wrong, but your timescale is. What does the next generation of not yet born folks think about the next generation of not yet born folks will ultimately matter.
I’m pretty firmly convinced the reason it took this long for the fascist takeover and probably WWIII is because it took about this long, 70-80ish years, for the living memory of WWII to, uh, stop living.
Yeah I don’t know why we ever pretended that exists, Canada is a nation whose entire cultural identity is resentment at being mistaken for American, and some of them speak even snootier French than the French do. We’re not friends, we’ve never been friends, it’s probably healthy to stop pretending we’re friends.
I’ve seen enough shit here on Lemmy from Canadians saying “we aren’t friends” so…I agree. We aren’t. I wouldn’t piss on Canada if it was on fire. Which it probably is.
dont care about your feelings on Canada, i responded to your comment about china cars. you already have it worse than chinese and you dont even know it
The US will need decades to recover from this.
I hate to sound defeatist, but the US will never recover in its current form. The US political system is too right-leaning, and the right wing propaganda machine and cuts to education have done irreparable damage.
We need a complete change in trajectory to recover, and left unchecked the GOP and DNC will burn the country to the ground before they let that happen. Nothing short of a French medieval device will do.
We’re not that right leaning, our political system gives too much power to empty land that happens to have a few right wing nuts living there.
The “medieval device” you are referring to, back in 1792, was in fact a cutting-edge modern era device.
I see what you did there
I will add, even once US recovers from this, people killed by ICE aren’t coming back.
It’s the Fall of Rome. Sooner or later, there’ll be military crisis as charismatic leaders tear the nation apart.
I don’t believe its impossible.
Its very improbable, but the sudden rise of democratic socialists and massive support thats forming around them does open up possibilities, if enough of them get elected to power, they could start to right the ship. Get even more into offices, and they could start undoing bullshit and passing fresh new laws, for the people, not the powerful.
I don’t believe the end of our current political system means we all die, it hopefully means the shitheads in charge face consequences and we get a system in place that doesn’t let this happen again.
I’m a Canadian but I strongly suspect the US will never fully recover from where they are now. Even just consider international relations - Trump has irreparably damaged America’s relationship with Canada. I seriously doubt Canada will ever fully trust the USA again.
A stark contrast to 10 years ago when we had one of the strongest allied relationships on the planet.
It will again, but it will take decades and huge changes on the part of the USA
I doubt anyone fully trusted the USA to begin with. Its not like betraying deals and acting against friends is a sudden new development afterall.
but I do think, if we can start to cut the cancer out of the country, you would find a lot of the world welcoming the US back, if for nothing else than their own personal interests… probably mostly as a geopolitical counterweight to china.
Old people die. Young people take over. What does canadas youth think of americas youth? Those are the only opinions that matter, ultimately.
Oh to be young and naive.
You’re not wrong, but your timescale is. What does the next generation of not yet born folks think about the next generation of not yet born folks will ultimately matter.
I’m pretty firmly convinced the reason it took this long for the fascist takeover and probably WWIII is because it took about this long, 70-80ish years, for the living memory of WWII to, uh, stop living.
This is definitely one of the dumbest things I’ve read today.
As long as I can keep visiting Messorem Brewing in Montreal. I’m from a quality blue state and spend a lot of $$ on beer.
Yeah I don’t know why we ever pretended that exists, Canada is a nation whose entire cultural identity is resentment at being mistaken for American, and some of them speak even snootier French than the French do. We’re not friends, we’ve never been friends, it’s probably healthy to stop pretending we’re friends.
It really doesn’t sound like you know much about Canada or Canadians. Very much a “shit Americans say” comment.
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You haven’t banned Chinese cars. I know enough to want to mine the 49th parallel like the Korean penninsula.
You must own shares in Flock. Putting cameras in every Uber and Lyft. The usa is now the premier surveillance state, blowing past China at warp speed.
Stop feeding the trolls
I’ve seen enough shit here on Lemmy from Canadians saying “we aren’t friends” so…I agree. We aren’t. I wouldn’t piss on Canada if it was on fire. Which it probably is.
dont care about your feelings on Canada, i responded to your comment about china cars. you already have it worse than chinese and you dont even know it
It’s a Chinese product. You’re going to get cancer from sitting in it. It’ll be full of lead and asbestos just like their baby food.
Gutter French is snootier?
You know what? I like Canadians even more now. Come visit NZ whenever you like