The Reverend Sue Parfitt, from Bristol, was detained for holding a placard that read: “I oppose genocide. I support Palestine Action.” She was among more than 27 people arrested on Saturday for acts of defiance against the proscription.

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    Or you you could just, you know… protest against Israel and pro Palestinians without explicitly showing your allegiance to terrorist organizations such as Hamas.

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      Why are you talking about Hamas in a thread about Palestine Action? The two groups are not related at all and use totally different tactics (Palestine Action is explicitly non-violent).

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      There is only one context in which Palestine Action is “a terrorist organization such as Hamas” and that’s the depraved legislation that the idiots in Westminster passed. The bravery of the 83 year old priest this article is about lays bare the depravity and stupidity of this absolutely idiotic legislation. Your comment on the other hand, by using this idiotic comparison buys into this aberrant degeneracy. Why do you do that?

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      without explicitly showing your allegiance

      So you assume by default that there’s either an explicit or implicit support for Hamas by protesting against Israel?

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        without explicitly showing your allegiance

        So you assume that there’s either an explicit or implicit support for Hamas by protesting against Israel?

        Sorry for using difficult words. Make simple for you now:

        • protest against Israel: Ok
        • protest for Palestinians: Good
        • support Hamas: very bad

        Understood or brain still hurt?

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            terrorist organizations such as Hamas

            Can you get more bad faith?

            Just stop using Palestinians as as guise for your love of terrorism.

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              Yeah, they’re the ones arguing in bad faith 🙄

              “Stop arguing in bad faith” *proceeds to immediately make the most bad faith argument I have seen in this thread*

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              trying to stop delivering arms to a terrorist group commiting genocide: terrorism

              commiting genocide and deliberately killing, maiming, starving and playing cruel games with the lives of civilians and literal children: not terrorism

              talk about bad faith… fuck off with all that.

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                Thanks for providing a textbook example of bad faith arguing.

                My point was that you can protest for the cause of Palestinians without showing allegiance to terrorist organizations.

                You are not only claiming that you must support organizations that are defined as terrorist, you pretend I was the one defining their status.

                Well done. (slow clap)

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                  My point was that you can protest for the cause of Palestinians without showing allegiance to terrorist organizations.

                  Still haven’t explained where they did this but yeah they’re the ones arguing in bad faith.

                  Try harder. Can I get the contact information of your handler, I think you need some additional training…

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                  where’d that “must” come from? straight out of the anus I assume?

                  i don’t give a shit about what groups are “defined” as terrorist; it’s a designation given by governments for political purposes, often commiting much more heinous crimes themselves and usually for the specific purpose of distracting from that fact and suppressing any opposition including what would otherwise be free speech, which is exactly what’s happening here.

                  the biggest terror organization in the world is the US Armed Forces. unless you show me people getting arrested in the UK for supporting the US you and all of you “terrorism” concern trolls can suck a bag of dicks.

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          OK but where is the explicit support for Hamas that this woman was allegedly demonstrating. “Hamas” doesn’t appear in the article.

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            How explain word “like” simple? Difficult but I try - for you.

            • Orange like grapefruit - both fruit
            • Toyota like Ford - both car
            • Hamas like “Palestine Action” - both terrorist

            If still difficult:

            • grapefruit more sour than orange - still both fruit
            • Toyota better than Ford - both still car
            • Hamas way way worse than “Palestine Action” - still both terrorist
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              ICE is a terrorist organization. MAGA is a terrorist organization. You must be really against both of those things, eh? They use fear tactics and scaremongering, and when that doesn’t work, they get violent real quick. And they are based on both political and religious ideology to boot!

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              Oh, I see, you think that just because the UK labeled Palestine Action a terrorist group, they actually are?

              Hey, come on over, I got a bridge to sell you!

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      the IOF is a terrorist organization. much bigger, more prolific and active than Hamas as well. literally a war criminal organization. funny how you never hear people getting arrested for supporting the IOF though.

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        Are there any pro “IOF” demonstrations anywhere?

        Holding up a sign in support of a terrorist organization will (hopefully) get you arrested.

        You might argue that “Palestine Action” should not be defined as a terrorist organization.

        You can hold up a sign supporting them to protest the designation. You will be arrested however. That’s just what happens.

        Personally I’m not so sure that Palestinians will benefit from all that.

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        To simply imagine Palestine without settlers, to simply imagine a sky without drones—that, in the Zionist imagination, is genocidal. If you stick with the “want” of the charge, the notion that Palestinians want to kill all Jews, you find that Zionism is at war with our future. It is at war with our ability to articulate, even if only through poems and protest chants, a future in which Zionism does not reign. For in the past 100 years, Zionism has situated us in a condition of constant dispossession and premature death; our Nakba remains and renews. We are besieged in an inescapable, eternal present tense.

        Mohammed El-Kurd