“Freedom” LMAO
Like this will ever work. lol. Just don’t get VPN from a company that is headquartered in the US. Problem solved. There are a million other ways to bypass this. There will ALWAYS be away, they’re just trying to make it harder for the experienced, and impossible for your average Joe.
This leads to the government deciding which websites you can visit and cant visit down the line. This is a dystopian level of control and with surveillance already getting dystopian… Pick your dystopian technology book and decide which one we’re leading towards. Fascism policies are already on the rise in democratic worlds.
…as opposed to the non-democratic worlds, which are already as fascist as you can get, right?
I pick mad max. In the end, it will come down to oil.
Am I the only one who read Rash?
Great, more boomers who can’t understand how the internet works.
This doesn’t stem from a lack of understanding. It’s about corporations and control.
We need to stop believing the boomer’s framing that they’re all old and dumb, and start realizing that they’d eat us if we tasted good
Given all the cute sentient animals humans gleefully consume, your words ring true.
Those cute sentient animals would eat us too if they were sapient. And we tasted good.
The difference is we pretend to be better than then, we know better and can usually do something about it.
No, we’re at the point where the people pushing these laws do understand how the Internet works, and they want to control all of it.
All new media (other than documentaries) are meaningless. AI slop, propaganda, white washing or ego porn.
If you think documentaries can’t be propaganda, I have an excellent bridge for sale
It really is. The same open world games, the same sitcoms and movies, the same soulless music. None of it has any soul anymore, it’s not even actual expression or art…
Choose your DNS provider wisely
And ensure your VPN provider isn’t headquartered in the US (or better yet any five eyes nation) nor one of the ones owned by the Israeli Billionaire Teddy Sagi who likely also has deep ties to the Israeli and US governments
Godamnit, I didn’t realize PIA was bought out by them. Time to switch.
TIL expressVPN started as
Crossrider started off by making a SDK for the deployment of browser extensions platforms with support for monetizing extensions. The monetization options were used by major [ad injectors which used man-in-the-browser to change or add advertisements to what users saw.
JFC.
Good lists of vpn providers would be appreciated.
Mullvad is zero log and located in Sweden, and accepts payment in crypto to reduce traceable privacy footprint (which frankly is one of the real, relevant use-cases for crypto to further legitimate privacy needs).
Proton has been good for me. CEO seems like a dick but I’m gonna be honest it’s getting pretty hard to support any tech company that doesn’t have a dick CEO.
NextDNS is good and I just realised that it’s based in The US. The alternative ones don’t seem to provide the feature of granular filtering.
I use pihole+unbound right now and hoping that is unaffected
i think you have to set up DoH with unbound to make it not be in cleartext? I dunno honestly I’m a dummy, but I’m fairly sure that it’s pretty tricky to get it totally secured. I guess I don’t understand why you can’t use ubound recursively but have its root.hints pointing as something like quad9 instead of all the actual root authoritative dns servers, theres like 13 of them and more than half are the US government.
If piracy was a problem I can find them multiple international corporations that are well know for using copyrighted content to train their LLM without paying for it or having permission from the owner of that content.
They’re all in bed together.
Meh… I don’t pirate anthing, so… non-issue from where I stand. Though I can see how this would upset a lot of people.
Speaking out against the regime is now a form of piracy and banned.
See the problem? It’s abusable.
The regime doesn’t need this buffoonery to ban freedom of speech. They’re already trying that shit regardless of piracy.
So you are okay give giving your enemy another weapon to fire at you?
What other weapon? I already said I don’t pirate anything. This is a harmless weapon to use against me.
I feel like you are so dumb you would drown in the rain by staring up at the sky I literally just gave an example that would affect you.
That you resort to ad hominem when people disagree with you shows you aren’t mature enough to discuss this in any meaningful way.
Also- it shows that I won’t be missing anthing when I block your immature ass.
No.
Wait.
Come back….
Darrell Issa out of California appears to have proposed this, I assume because he is not seeking re-election.
Who wants to take a bet he is getting paid for it?
Well, time to protest, and if need be, use the constitution how it was intended.
Or … time to set my VPN to Canada.
I think the intent of the law is that it wouldn’t mater. If the VPN blocks the site, you can’t get to the site.
I don’t know if you’re familiar with how VPNs work, but it’s basically like a computer in the other country is sharing its internet connection with you.
So let’s imagine that things are reversed, and you’re a VPN provider in the United States and you’re sharing your internet connection with some computers in another country, like Saudi Arabia, for example.
And just to be clear, you conduct no business in Saudi Arabia. You’re just sharing your internet connection with people from there. You don’t have any associates in Saudi Arabia, and you have no intention of ever going to Saudi Arabia.
And let’s say that Saudi Arabia passed a law that said VPN providers had to block some kind of content, like maybe banning all access to content about your favorite band.
How is this going to affect the VPN service you provide to the other computers?
Why would a Canadian VPN server obey US block lists?
It wouldn’t, which is why I roll my eyes every time I see a bill demanding what a VPN must do.
The only way for them to actually enforce this through VPNs is to block VPNs. Which, presumably, they’ll do at some point, but with an exception list for companies paying the right license fee to use a Government Approved VPN.
Which, obviously, will be full of security flaws, and likely won’t be HIPPA compliant or other compliances etc, etc.
There are ways to obfuscate VPN traffic that’s resistant to DPI. It makes it look like normal HTTPS traffic. That will make completely blocking VPNs difficult. I’m sure even more effective obfuscation methods will be developed if VPN blocking becomes widespread.
So, basically there’s the internet, then there’s the US internet. People will start moving to China for more freedoms.
Did you forget about the Great Firewall?
Not that even it can defeat VPNs anyway.
You VPN into Canada and then sign onto another VPN from there? Would that work?
Hell, depending on how the law is written and how clever the lawyers are, the VPN can ship you out to Canada, then connect you back to the network via an authentication token that verifies you are a member of the service without verifying your country of origin.
…where are you from?
Wrong question these days.
I forgot…
A/S/L?
Well, based on what he said, he’s wrong.
Unless he’s not from the usa. So before I pointed out the flaw in his plan, I want to make sure I’M not wrong.
“would”
Yeah they try this all the time. But holy shit these comments acting like it’s already happened, and then gone into full blown USSR mode, are a bit inflammatory.
Where is US gdpr?
These rats only do good for corporations.So we’re going Iran/China with our internet?
Time to buy a vps and put wireguard on it.
