Companies approached by the eSafety commissioner this month about the requirement to prevent under 16s from holding social media accounts from 10 December have conducted a self-assessment that the commissioner will use to decide if they need to comply with the ban.
eSafety will not be formally declaring which service meets the criteria but companies that eSafety believes meet the criteria will be expected to comply.
Oh get fucked. I’m not using any website that needs me to scan my face or prove my age, no good can come of this.
The headline makes this sound a lot worse than the article does.
From the article there’s basically a list of exemptions in the law that describes who doesn’t need to follow it (e.g. an online booking site for doctors visits), everybody else needs to check the rules to see if they do. And if they do, they then need to follow extra child safety rules (e.g. Roblox is opting out under-16s from open DMs by default)
GitHub can quite rightly say they don’t fall under the restrictions of the law, and that could be the end of it. The simple fact that it doesn’t have any form of private messaging feature is probably enough.
We start with “it’s to protect the children, you care about children don’t you?”
Once the mechanics are in place, and fewer people are complaining, we head toward, “we can’t just let everyone have access to everything, it’s for your own good.”
We go from disallowing a few by age, to only allowing a few by more strict criteria.
Agreed, we are basically being played by the elites to agree to their authoritarian control.
It always starts with discrimination. In this case it is age that is weaponised against us, with no respect to anyone. Society is already deep in ageism so no wonder they are using that as a pivoting point - infantilizing our people and ultimately stripping all their rights.
Ageism cannot continue because in the end our own naivety will destroy our freedom.
First they came for the children and I did nothing, for I was not a child
We all know all the cool kids are hanging out on GitHub contributing to Buttplug.io
Is that real or parody?
Very real https://github.com/buttplugio
and even dating apps
Are 15 year olds on dating apps?! How is that legal now?
Back when I was younger and my Tinder age minimum was set to 18, you’d see a lot of profiles with 18 or 19 as the age that said “actually 15” in the bio.
because you have to find out how old someone is to ban them??
once forgejo implements federation austrailia can get fucked
This is some prime authoritarian bullshit. Who needs properly declared laws and rules anyway, the current administration are “the good guys”, right?? They’ll just tell you if you’re wrong.
This is the right way to make laws and rules.
It’s the same way we do tax - self compliance. You self report but if you’re caught breaking the rules then you face punishments.
If the administration just made a list of who’s effected, it would be perpetually incomplete. This way, everyone is effected.
They can’t just unilaterally decide that your self assessment is “wrong” without explanation. Also their decisions about who is effected are public, and can be relied on by others to self assess.
This leads to overzealous blocking because it might be by some interpretation applicable to you/your product.
Thus you will be blocking in advance just so you don’t face charges.Great.
No it doesn’t. Our tax system works the same way. It doesn’t lead to overzealous deduction denial because people are worried about getting it wrong.
Its an efficient and transparent approach.
Maybe for money where they can calculate the risks. But IMHO not for more severe (for example percentage based) punishments where companies will actively try to avoid getting in the crosshairs.
I see it a bit iffy. Yes, your argument is valid but I have a feeling mine is so too.
Also, isn’t it a bit weird to generalize a tax system in an international context?
“Just make the rules super vague and subject to a single person mood on the day and if you break them you’re all sorts of fucked”…… you’re not serious are you?
Absolutely nothing about these authoritarian rules are “public”. It’s just more power being handed to the eKaren to use for her political and ideological reasons, with exactly zero accountability, oversight, or way for us to have a say.
No, they’re the ‘better than the last lot’ party. Labor are a party of and for Landlords.
The Greens are the good party.
the greens are, unfortunately, still just career politicians who think they are trying
Labor are a party of and for Landlords.
Bullshit.
It was only 8 years ago Labor campaigned on removing capital gains tax discounts which would’ve been a huge kick up the ass for landlords.
They lost that election in spectacular fashion.
Their own review found that was almost entirely due to the unlikeability of Bill Shorten, but is trundled out by every rusted on labor voter every time.
Labor have a vested interest in keeping property prices high as they themselves are all landlords.
They’ve done nothing about housing since they’ve been in power and keep decrying the previous government as if their still in opposition.
Labor have a vested interest in keeping property prices high as they themselves are all landlords.
This is the dumbest theory that only a child would believe.
Australians have a vested interest in keeping property prices high. Everyone owns property, not just Labor candidates.
Given the bad incentives on parties from
oura two party system then even Greens would eventually become bad (unless they managed to fix the voting system they just won on…).Power corrupts…
The greens have managed to get corrupt and shitty without ever getting in power.
The greens are worse than Labor. They used to actually care about the environment, now they’re just a radical left communist-lite bunch of career politicians who only care about other countries and their own bank accounts.
they’re just a radical left communist
God I wish that was remotely true
It’s shocking how quickly the free world is backsliding into fascism.
I genuinely think this has to do with the next generation of idiots taking their place. My generation has been conditioned to roll over like punk-bitches in the face of conflict so they’re easier to exploit.
It’s literally seen as embarrassing to stand up for yourself.
Stupidity is not a right.
This sounds like the income tax in the USA. They won’t tell you how much you owe in tax, but if you’re wrong then they’ll bring the hammer down.
But only for certain classes of people.
It’s the same in Australia….
yeah because when I want to be social or check out porn github is the first place that pops to mind.
Although…now that I think about it…doing git clone on a porn repo would be convenient. could even easily update it. hm…Actually I think Australia might be on to something here
Git is not very efficient for handling a lot of binary files. Your best bet would be for hosting fanfic and erotic lit.
Nice, shame the assistant isn’t on Windows.
yeah I know I just thought i’d be funny for people to be cloning and pushing a bunch of porn repos and then throwing their “personal” stash into .gitignores
I mean… that worked fine for teenage me with a DSI.
I reckon they saw checkout, pull request, fork, etc. and thought, “What is this? A Grindr alternative?”
Invention is the mother of necessity!
Bans of any sort will and always will be acts of censorship and oppression no matter what age a participant is. It is purely discriminatory and inconsiderate with no actual effort given on the well-being or safety of targeted individuals.
If they were serious about protecting children, they would have a device level lock and force web pages and apps to positively affirm they are “safe” for minors
That would work, this clearly won’t. This is just censorship, you can’t sanitize the Internet, you can only carve out walled gardens
Don’t go giving them ideas. That way leads to Digital ID at birth, which should be avoided at all costs.
A rating system like the ESRB would actually be a really good idea for helping parents control what their kids get to see.
It shouldn’t result in any sort of ban or restriction beyond what the parents are able to enforce. The big-name services will have a rating, and it’s up to parents whether or not they’ll let their kids use unrated services.
You could go further than that… Mandate that all new devices and app stores must have a parental lockout available out of the box
Then when you get your kid a phone or computer, you just set up the permissions. This already exists to a large extent, this would just standardize it all to turn it into a usable system
Great! We do not control GitHub, anti-libre software.
Libre software is unstoppable.
I wouldn’t mind less skibidi toilet content on the internet from under 16s.
“Can you guys stop using memes I didn’t approve of?”
Feel free to use them offline, like in the good old days
So you want us to show up at your doorstep
atas the Jememes Witnesses and dance fortnite dances with a toilet?
Because thats a possible interpretationYes please, then I will have the satisfaction of slamming the doors in front of your face. And I can’t do that to stupid comments!
Alright, enough, bye
Haha, but I’m still here!
He yelled through the closed door.
The only person I know who says skibidi is 30.
The problem is twitch and influencer-culture, not necessarily young users.
I’d wager a benefit of having young people on the internet is that they at least have the potential to provide value because their brain hasn’t been rotted to the core like most adults.
every person of a particular age is the exact same, as we all know
Go back to school kid
For an ageist egocentric asshole you sure are acting worse than those under 16s you’re describing.
Tell me now, how exactly did I describe those under 16s? Because I didn’t.
Thanks for proving my point.
Now, go back to school and learn some reading comprehension.
and you to your parents’ basement?
Haha, such a clever comeback. Good one! Going down the stairs now.
Great. Maybe stay there this time.
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yeah and boomers were saying the same about us when we were watching a squirrel singing about “Gonads and strife” or a badly translated Sega Genesis game claiming “All your base are belong to us”
ALL generations watch dumb shit, stop acting like this ONE generation suddenly originated dumb shit to watch.
This is NOT a generational thing. Kids and teenagers ALWAYS were and ALWAYS will be the most stupid age group, with zero life experience and nothing to add to any conversation other than some stupid jokes.
Why do kids like you always have to make things generational??
Stop acting smart, go back to school, get some life experience and then come back to share it. All the best ❤️
Why do kids like you always have to make things generational??
The irony of this question is painful.
You just complained about what younger people do, and then you complained about being called out for it bevause someone “made it generational.”
You made it generational.
Uhm 👀
Where did I make it generational? Exactly?
Again, it’s an age thing, not a generational thing.
Let me explain it for you better.
When the gen z grows up they will still be generation z, but they will be older and smarter. Gen z is not going to stay under 16 forever.
When generation z grows up, there will be a next generation abc or whatever, that will be the new under 16s.
And so it has absolutely nothing to do with being generation x, y or z.
Does that make more sense?
If not go back to school.
Also, thanks for proving my point that most kids are stupid and have nothing to contribute to serious conversations.
