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So trueeee
that applies to imperialism too.
plenty of anarcho-libs out there claiming to hate capitalism, while repeating cia talking points about china, venezuela, and so on.
imperialism is the highest stage of capitalism
Imperialism has changed quite a bit from Lenin, such as the current development of one large empire and several vassal states under it benefitting from imperialism. Lenin’s work is actually best translated as “current highest,” not “highest.” Economists like Cheng Enfu have developed theories of Neoimperialism, and Nkrumah with Neocolonialism.
and some can’t seem to see it happening!
Technically you can be an anticapitalist and still not a leftist. You could be one of those weirdo turbo conservative monarchists.
It’s not just weird, it’s materially impossible. History doesnt move according to big ideas exclusively, the main driver of history is materialism. Feudalism gave way to capitalism not because someone conceptualized capitalism and made it become real, but because the historical development of feudalism led to the primitive accumulation process of capital, the progressive appearance of a bourgeois class, and this was accelerated by western imperialism and the exploitation of resources in the global south by European powers.
Once the accumulation of capital had taken place and the main economic driver of the economy had become capitalism, it was impossible to return to feudalism, capitalism became a historical necessity. A return to feudalism is simply unfeasible.
That doesn’t mean there aren’t people who do believe we should return to feudalism though.
Future “don’t make me tap the sign” material
My head-cannon of the differences
US Socialist (social democrat) - Busses should be free for everyone.
US Liberal - Free bus passes only for poor people
US Right-wing - Let the free-market decide and somehow only allow US citizens to ride busses.
The free market will decide it’s actually more profitable to shut down bus service entirely and pivot to helping ICE transport bus loads of “illegal immigrants”.
Lowkey yikes. I don’t want to associate myself with either graphic
Why not?
Neither capitalist nor anti capitalist, but some secret third thing
(the secret third thing being fascism)
So, capitalism too
there are multiple varying definitions of liberal depending on the time, location, and context reddit thread discussing this
Yes, but the above one is the most consistent and historically correct that would cut down all those discussions.
I mean, liberals by really almost any definition will still be pro-Capitalism, from Classical Liberalism to American Democratic Party liberalism. Once people go further left, into anti-Capitalism, they almost always stop using that label.
There varying definitions of a lot of words, and most of those variant definitions are wrong
Anytime someone says liberal on Lemmy it will mostly likely refer to modern liberalism in the United States.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_liberalism_in_the_United_States
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Creating division between people who want to make things better and people who want to maintain the current absolutely dogshit status quo is actually a good thing
I mean, liberalism’s support of private property and market economics are definitional.
We love gross generalizations. Most people I meet just don’t really think about it in those terms. I’d say it’s probably more accurate to describe liberal voters as not being anti-capitalist
Now a liberal politician? Yeah 100% pro capitalism
not being anti-capitalist
Ok, this is the “I’m anti-antifa” bullshit of the right wing.
