I think people are missing something pretty important here: this creates justification to use the US military against its citizens. Sure, it may just be to justify an invasion of Venezuela, but I suspect it’s more substantial than that. Saying the cartels have WMDs within the United States manufactures a threat that the military needs to fight. These “WMDs” are in every state and every city. They have manufactured a credible reason to use the military anywhere in the US against any group of people because it’s so pervasive.
Well… That sucks. Makes a depressing amount of sense.
Fuckin LOL. That’s too on the nose man. It’s Iraq all over again
That’s exactly why he’s doing this.
False claim one; Fentanyl is a WMD
False claim two; Fentanyl is coming from Venezuela.
Enjoy twenty more years of quagmire America.
You’re missing the other countries he’s used fentanyl to harass: Mexico, Canada, and China.
Okay, but all of those are evil countries corrupted by the insidious hand of the Marxist Antifa
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At least those countries are at least associated with fenntanyl and its supply chain. Venezuela is not as far as I’m aware. So it makes the whole thing much more preposterous.
And just to clarify, we should not be starting any wars over the drug trade since that is much more effectively combatted by dealing with the causes here at home. As long as there is demand there will always be supply.
You’re assuming he’s talking about using this as an excuse to invade Venezuela. I’m assuming he’ll use it as an excuse to invade Canada and Mexico. He’s already made up bullshit about how it’s pouring over our border, and he’s already threatened our country with annexation.
There’s no way that happens. The oligarchs would lose money in the conflict. They gain money in a Venezuela conflict presumably. They have a lot of oil, like almost Saudi levels of oil, and there isnt enough trade with Venezuela for a war to upset the pocket books of the wealthy.
I’m sure the US could feel entitled to Canadian oil too, and then make up a justification afterwards.
Yes, I agree in principle. However, the economics (well, monied interests) of it right now are not favorable. Too many people with money to make in US-Canadian trade would pull support for the politicians that push for it. That may change over time.
I think the idea was floated in the media by Mr Asshat because someone wanting the oil was interested in capturing it, but the push back from other donors was clear, and we dont hear them talking about it anymore other than to defend their “right” to float such ideas.
If they invade it, the US won’t attempt to annex Mexico because giving Mexicans US citizenship will piss off Trump’s racist supporters.
More fentanyl flows into Canada from the US than flows into the US from Canada.
Wasn’t that part of the Iraq justification? “We know they have WMDs because we gave them to them!”
At least those countries are at least associated with fenntanyl and its supply chain.
I’m not saying Canada has a significant role. Venezuela just isn’t involved at all.
“Based on seizure data and law enforcement investigation information, the consensus among U.S. authorities is that Mexico was the only significant source of illicit fentanyl and fentanyl analogues trafficked into the United States in 2024.”
Venezuela isn’t even mentioned. Neither is Canada I suppose. And that is U.S. gov data. So not like they can claim they didn’t know.
You’re forgetting a crucial thing: Trump doesn’t care about facts
That’s a pretty hard thing to forget. Still thinks its worth acknowledging the lies though.
We just need to send Pete Hegseth to the UN with a little vial of enough fentanyl to kill a handful of horses.
Bonus, make it real fentanyl and he probably won’t make it out of the bathroom alive.
He’s a professional he’d just go fent lean at the UN podium
Get bent, Hegseth
I mean, it worked last time, and the only consequence was making billions of dollars in the process.
That and further tarnishing the states’ image on the world stage. But that’s a moot point now. Everyone can see they (the gov) are the baddies.
You are kidding yourself if you think the rest of the world thinks this isn’t because Americans are fucking ignorant moron fascists.
You have a democratically elected government. This is what you chose.
I’m not American and I was being generous.
It’s literally all American foreign policy since the 1940s.
https://read.dukeupress.edu/books/book/901/The-School-of-the-AmericasMilitary-Training-and
This is a good summary of what we’ve done to South America. Ask Anna for a copy. There are various YT docos out too on the topic.
Yellow cake fentanyl is being produce in Africa and Iran.
Cutting USAID was a weapon of mass destruction. Estimated 500.000 to 1.000.000 deaths. Source
I fly an EMS helicopter. We use fentanyl every day for pain management.
This world is a joke
So you transport and utilize WMDs on the daily?
That’s something really cool to brag about on a date lmao
Hey it’s me ur date
Sounds like a terrorist. Get em boys!
No the world isnt a joke. Your country is a joke.
Imagine getting charged with a personal amount of WMDs
Some smoke detectors have some radioactive materials in them.
Sounds like you have a wmd that’s easy for police to plant on people.
Temu Iraq War
Flip side, Venezuela probably does actually have fent
drone strikes on Pfizer and Merck facilities are imminent! The Sackler family are being sent to Gauntanamo!
We could do that or we can invade a bunch of countries and strip away rights from people.
One can dream
the cartels and foreign networks that have turned fentanyl into the leading cause of death for Americans aged 18-45
why even add this? the cdc’s data doesn’t even mention it in the top 10 causes.
Yesterday he said the US has earned $18 trillion from import tariffs when the entire US trade is around $7 trillion.
Truth means nothing. Reality means nothing.
Cool we made 18 trillion, prices should be going down any minute now
What do you mean “going down”?? They’re already lowest in history, the best prices under any president, anyone can tell you that, the prices are some of the most beautiful prices you’ve ever seen, people come and tell me they have never seen prices so low like this, they say how do you do it, how, because prices were high under crooked Joe Biden and would be even worse under crooked Kamary Harrton, but thanks to our beautiful tariffs we are now respected, the world respects us, and politicians from all over the world come to me for advice on running their countries because we have the most beautiful prices in history! Thank you for your attention to this matter.
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command
literally 1984
So America is harboring WMDs? Quick somebody assemble a coalition of the willing to liberate them.
It’s even being controlled by religious fundamentalists!
You mean terrorist organizations?
Yes
This may be the plan, internally. I believe there are certain provisions that allow the US military and intelligence groups broader rights if they can categorize the action as “against WMDs”.
That’s a really good point. They can say Venezuela has fentanyl and invade their country.
Canadian super labs.
The stupid! It burns!
JFC but I am so goddam tired of uttering the words “What a fuckin’ moron,” every time I read about him.
Because you’re taking him at face value.
He knows that fentanyl isn’t a nuke. He knows that. But by saying it, and by not having anyone to stop him from saying it, he gets to get away with saying it.
That doesn’t make him stupid. That makes him evil.
I’ll simplify the situation. It’s like when you’re in elementary school, and the class bully grabs your wrist, and hits you with your own hand.
Then asks “why are you hitting yourself?”
The bully knows what he’s doing. Normally this is when the teacher steps in to stop it. But what if the teacher didn’t exist? And what if instead of a classroom, it was the whole world?
The bully isn’t stupid enough to think you’re just being self destructive. The bully gets off on the fact that he’s having fun with no one to stop him.
And that’s where we are with trump. A schoolyard bully with no oversight to stop him. And oh yeah, by the way, he also dictates the biggest military on the planet. With argueably the biggest stockpile of nukes.
I don’t believe he knows a thing. The people he put in charge of his policy do know these things
And we thought G.W. Bush was an idiot… I kinda miss that guy now.
He was/is. Someone being even dumber doesn’t change that.
Cut that shit out. There is a DIRECT line from Reagan to Bush to Trump- and it’s American citizens’ inaction that allowed it to play out.
It’s the same picture
Maybe we’re just worse now.
Or more likely the modern media landscape is. I shudder to think of the bush administration with today’s connected world.
Bush was even worse than trump and unless trump turns somewhere into Iraq 2.0 he will continue to be.
People forget who Bush was. They forget everything but his dumb laugh. The economy tanked under Bush. He started two wars. He ushered in the Patriot Act. Education was gutted. Tax cuts for the rich. Contracts for corporations.
Bush laid the blueprints out for people like Trump.
I don’t know if you heard, but there’s this place called “Venezuela”…
Yes and at this point he hasn’t done anything nearly as bad as Bush in Iraq he very probably could but i truthfully see it more likely he doesn’t and just bombs some land claims he destroyed drug operations and continues the aggression and so on he could turn it to Iraq 2.0 but so far he hasn’t. To be clear what he’s done already is terrible and he will almost certainly do more.
Give it a minute. The Bush administration hyped the idea of WMDs in Iraq for well over a year before they actually invaded.
And considering the size of the military build-up that’s been going on off the coast of Venezuela over the last several months, it’s pretty obvious what their intensions are. There is no other practical reason for that amount of ships, planes and active duty personnel, other than invasion.
Maybe he is incompetent, but the administration is not. And malicious? Yes they are.
I mean, it was inevitable.
Even if you follow and believe his line of logic about Biden in 2022, saying Biden is too old, then you have to ALSO follow the logic that trump is 2 years younger than Biden. Which means by 2024 trump is the same age that Biden was “too old to be president”.
Our last president who didn’t qualify for AARP left office in 2017.
Well Trump has the advantage of not actually doing the job. Less stress.
He didn’t do the job from 2017-2021, or 2025-today either…
That’s what I said.
Oh. I thought you meant he could say that in 2022 because he wasn’t the president then. Sorry, that’s how I read it.
Also…remember when his whole campaign was all about criticizing Republican warhawks for the “disastrous war in Iraq”, and how he’d never support something like that?
Yeah. Good times.
So how is biden doing these days?
Oh, in treatment for prostate cancer. Not terrible, but still stressful. It’d be nice to have a healthy president, if only we had the choice.
In all fairness, I don’t think any of this crazy is coming from Trump. It’s the perfectly sane fascists he has hired.
If they really cared about drug addiction and the consequences the sacklers would be in prison and he wouldn’t be pardoning every drug trafficker that gives him a bribe
If I’m ever in combat, I hope like hell the only things they drop on me is fentanyl.
Cool throw the Sachlers in prison for war crimes then. The opiod epidemic stems from them.
