Aaaaaaand I just got banned from NOT one, NOT two, NOT three, but four Lemmy.ml communities. Is this a sign I have to start studying and reading up on theory?
Also, I know some Lemmy.ml mods is gonna say that “you wouldn’t get banned from these communities had you read your theory!” like they’re teachers demanding students to eat their meat before they can have their pudding (because how can you have your pudding when you don’t eat your meat?)
Now I support the idea of socialism (I’m more of a market socialist), and I’m NOT against the idea of actually existing socialist countries (ie: China, Cuba, Vietnam, Laos and the DPRK). That said, I think Lemmy.ml should be more open to different forms of socialism, as well as the Marxist Leninists who DOESN’T have to support Stalin (and his bureaucratic and polarizing practices while General Secretary of the CPSU) to support ML.
I am very bummed that I CAN’T respond in these communities - that said, I can subscribe to different versions of these communities that happened to be in different Lemmy instances (other than Lemmy.ml):
Socialism:
!actualsocialism@lemmy.dbzer0.com
!actualsocialism101@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Privacy:
Memes:
Lemmy support:
Someone should make another Lemmy support community here in this instance
I told you so. A lot of your comments come across as sealioning.
Lemmy.ml tends to be very strict though and often uses the terminology of their rules very loosely to ban people.
.ml is essentially Lemmy’s /r/conservative as far as censorship, propaganda, mod power trips, and sub-zero IQ levels go.
Avoid at all costs. Block the instance. Life is too short to waste on basement dwellers.
Would you consider Marxism-Leninism-Stalinism (basically ML but with Stalin’s views in them) as the right wing of communism?
I have instance blocked lemmy.ml for more than a year now and it makes my internet life seriously better. You don’t need to read more theory OP, you need to get rid of assholes in your life.
What about reading up on socialist/communist theory? I still have a lot to learn as a socialist.
Read as much as you can, but don’t limit yourself to a specific theory, it will make you narrow-minded. That’s an advice I can give after 20 years of being a critical thinking adult.
Regarding Lemmy: I would not want to be part of a group that bans me, because I haven’t “read enough theory”.
Does RedSails have anything by Daniel De Leon?
I think you may have answered to the wrong comment
No, that looks like an admin ban from the instance. You’re banned from lemmy.ml entirely.
When you get instance banned, the modlog will simply show bans from communities you’ve posted in from that instance. If you try to post to a lemmy.ml community now, it won’t federate out. It’s actually a really broken system that can cause problems.
Wait, really? Dang it.
Is me being instance-banned from Lemmy.ml a sign that I have to study and read up on theory a bit more? Is there any way I can get unbanned from the instance?
No, is sign that you are a sane person. You don’t want to be considered good by them, it means you are a tankie.
Well, although I find Marxism-Leninism to be interesting, I don’t like how Stalin handled the USSR (especially the Communist Party, how it became bureaucratic when it should’ve been decentralized had Lenin appointed someone else to do his job after his death).
That position is against the rules of lemmy.ml and is a bannable offense.
Yeah - you can be a Marxist-Leninist AND not support Stalin’s actions.
Brother, you’re better off creating your own community or participating in other socialist oriented communities on the fediverse. I’m also a Marxist-Leninist but those guys don’t accurately use theory and distort for all their petty agenda
They’re more Marxist-Stalinists that anything else
Edit: See !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works for more on how bad that instance and it’s two siblings are
I’m actually non-binary, and I prefer gender-neutral and feminine terms. Seriously!
The millions of deaths are what took the shine off ol’ Joe for me. Call me old-fashioned.
Are you more of a council communist?
I’m communist-curious, at best.
So you’re learning? If you want, I can point you to https://redsails.org/
Hi old-fashioned, I’m Dylan but you can call me DIlly!
Just ignore ml. If you got banned for not knowing their version of whatever, you probably are just going to get banned again later.
For once, I am not knocking on ml for being ml, it’s just a very odd instance when it comes to social interaction. You must subscribe to the hive mind 100% … or else.
Really shows how shitty life under their preferred system would be, doesn’t it? If it’s intolerable online, imagine them actually running shit.
I never considered that as a real possibility. Thanks for the nightmares!
I’m NOT knocking the instance for being Marxist-Leninists - that said, if mods in that instance warms up to non-Marxist-Leninists (like De Leonists, council communists and syndicalists, for example), I wouldn’t get banned there to begin with.
Yeah, I tried to steer clear commenting on whatever people choose to follow politically or socially. It is a highly curated echo-chamber, is my point. (Most social media rabbit holes are echo-chambers, but ml wins awards for that.)
People on Hexbear seem to think that my socialist views are “revisionist”.
Hex bear and ML are a cult. And I’m pretty sure only 1/3 of them are actually drinking the Kool-Aid, the rest seem to be astro turf bots. As far as I can tell, it’s a mass disinformation campaign.
Keep in mind I myself am not a socialist, even though I do believe they make some good points. I’m a centrist libertarian focusing on Geoism, Minarchism, and strong protections for workers. You know things like cutting corporate welfare and increasing social welfare. Taxes based on land use. Etc.
Getting banned is a mark of Honor. It means you had a brain and used it to question authoritarian bullshit.
What about the Marxist-Leninists who DON’T support Stalin?
Have you ever considered that you’re trying to appease a cult that does not care for you in any capacity? I would strongly advise you to recollect on what you believe in and not to fall to group think. It’s much more important to ask yourself are the things I’m doing having positive impacts on my community versus is my ideology, correct.
The more I read Dylan’s comments the more I believe Dylan is a troll.
I think it’s more of a loss of sense of belonging where they hold political ideology in the same reverence that the religious hold their attachments to their church. As far as he’s concerned, he just got excommunicated by the pope, but he’s still a good little Catholic boy.
What do you mean by that?
Ideologies are foolish systems made to concentrate power and control, not help people.
Reading your post is identical to reading a post about somebody being banned from an ultra right-wing church because they didn’t believe in Jesus the right way. If you can’t see that, I would advise you to reflect.
Live the best life you can treat other people’s the best you can. That’s what matters.
You seem like good people. Just wanted to point that out.
That’s up to them. You would have to appeal.
Where?
I have no idea, I’m not familiar with lemmy.ml or the systems on lemmy to do this.
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/60887085
Me thinks the initial bans for trolling should have stuck
lol, I missed that one on /new, but based on the timing, it looks like that was about the ban for the lemmy.ml account while this thread is for this account
You’d think a little reflection would be used if you can make yourself look exactly like a llm trolling
Please explain
.ml isn’t tolerant towards other ideologies or beliefs. If it isn’t full-throated support for authoritarian regimes, then it’s considered a bannable offense, even if you support actual socialism or communism. Note that your ban was very likely from the admins themselves, as the moderators hardly do any banning there compared to Dessalines and Davel.
Well still Lemmy.ml staff are very very strict - I’m very glad I’m posting in this Lemmy instance (lemmy.dbzer0.com).
Strict is not the word.
I’d go with pathetic.
Maybe demanding?
Cowardly. They can’t handle dissent, so they ban you for challenging their ideas. There’s only one acceptable position there, and that’s being a full-throated tankie who professes that authoritarian regimes and the atrocities they commit are A-OK as long as they’re opposed to the West while doing so.
I’m NOT against AES countries. Does that make me a tankie by proxy?
Nope. You’re only a tankie if you blindly support authoritarian regimes and refuse to acknowledge the atrocities they commit. As an example, denying the Tiananmen Square massacre, denying human rights abuses and horrid living conditions in North Korea, or supporting Russia in its invasion and attempted genocide of Ukraine and its people.
Are you more of a libertarian socialist or council communist?
demanding students to eat their meat
Nah. I demand you stop eating meat.
Guess I’m not a mod, though, so take the rest of this with a giant serving of salt:
You’re getting banned in part because you post the same things over and over again and don’t seem to actually incorporate any of the feedback you get in response.
You’re getting banned in part because you’re participating in communities you’ve previously been banned from (and, per the prior point, not changing anything about how you participate in those communities).
You’re getting banned in part because your takes are often contradictory and unrealistic, and primarily based in historical revisionism.
- I was referencing Pink Floyd
- I’m very sorry for posting the same stuff over and over again on Lemmy.ml
- Why are my takes based in revisionism? Do you think that I should study and read up on theory a bit more?
- That doesn’t change the cruelty of the meat industry
- You’re still doing it though, see #3
- Based in historical revisionism. As in, you’re more interested in “what if everything were like my favorite alt-history story?” instead of grounding things in reality. Asked and answered at least 20 times by me alone.
Do you still think I should study and read a bit theory more?
Asked and answered at least 20 times by me alone.
I know I always get “you gotta read theory!”
… yep.
you post the same things over and over again and don’t seem to actually incorporate any of the feedback you get in response.
You’re still doing it
So you’re gonna tell me to read up on socialist/communist theory?
You’re complaining about getting banned from 4 communities? Surely there’s a ban evasion rule if they’re so damn strict there? And yes, I’m banned from dbzer0
And I got banned from Hexbear because they thought I was being “anti-AES”.
yes, you were
If anything that I’ve said on Hexbear that may be considered anti-AES and such have offended you in any way, I sincerely apologize.
now do the zionism
I have nothing on say the war in Gaza - I can do say that Palestinians should overthrow Israel’s government so that we can have a real permanent ceasefire.
That said, I apologize for anything that I’ve said on Hexbear that may be considered pro-zionist (supporting the country of Israel).
The anti-AES state department talking points were probably the final straw, but the Zionism definitely didn’t help.
People on Hexbear seem to think that my socialist views are “revisionist”.
This is the second time you wrote this in the thread and the fourth time you wrote that in this community.
Quick question: if the US becomes a socialist/communist country during the Great Depression (like in the althistory story “Reds! A Revolutionary Timeline”), would you like that US more than the one we have?
Historical revisionism.
Hexbear is a silly place. You need not worry about what they think, they’re very isolated and are similarly authoritarian to the .ml instances.
you still eat animals? gross.
Why?
