California Gov. Gavin Newsom’s office said the governor was denied entry into a venue at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, on Jan. 21, after being invited to speak at the event due to “pressure” from the Trump administration.
Newsom had been scheduled to speak with Fortune at the USA House, Davos, a privately organized event, at the World Economic Forum, which has been recognized by the U.S. government as the nation’s headquarters in Davos.
ITT, idealists once again letting perfect be the enemy of good.
It’s worked so well the past few elections.
The Democrats have had nothing but people like Newsom since the 1980s but you think that’s the best course of action? He was invited there because he would only talk about cultural grievances and not the economic ones that the wealthy are currently causing.
Nobody wants perfect. A neoliberal Democrat winning will just continue the kleptocracy while lying to us about it. Bill Clinton, Obama, Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris are controlled opposition.
Also, Ben Shapiro, the lying little shit ran circles around him on Newsom’s podcast. Made him seem like a weak bitch.
Before then tbh
Well, they won every popular vote except two, so don’t be so quick to throw out the baby with the bathwater
Yes, Obama ran on hope, change and anti-war… A litera promised leftist revolution. What did we get? More centrists. Democrats lost over 1000 seats in state and federal offices. Bankers in charge of policing banks. George W Bush and his cronies walking free after years on criminal activity by his administration.
Biden was just the result of the DNC and all of the centrists grouping together to defeat Bernie Sanders for the second time.
Because at the time of the general election all other options left of center right are effectively removed with no support from the democratic party. They basically haven’t even pretended to have a democratic primary since Obama in 2008, instead choosing to coronate whoever the super delegates choose, which has worked true wonders for the party /s. They’re already starting the motions to do this again with their next center right candidate in Newsom.
That must be why the country has been so awesome during all that time!
Why not run a charismatic candidate with popular policy and win the electoral college too?
We’re not trying to tie one hand behind our backs to impress our dads, we should do what has the best chance of actually winning…
Fetterman/Gabbard 2028! Yes we can!!1!
why would you post such an ugly thing
would only apply if Gavin Newsom was “good”.
He is not good, he even denied genocide in Gaza and protected billionaires
Stop saying that bullshit nonsense. He is not “good”. We don’t demand perfection, we demand that these people don’t be genocidal right wing fascist light.
I hate whatever pundit told you all to say “dont let perfect be the enemy of good.” It makes me feel like I’m talking to a bunch of programmed robots.
It’s a saying that isn’t new.
I welcome critique if Newsom before the primaries. I love AOC and sanders and walz as much as anyone here, but until one of them is electable, we’re kinda stuck in this chicken or the egg problem here. Like it or not, and to be clear i do not, someone with true leftist bona fides isn’t yet electable in the US. The best we can hope for is someone who can listen and change their mind.
youre giving up before there are even primaries. You dont want a leftist in the primaries?
As a voter in the primaries I go leftist. But if I’ve got money on the outcome, it’s someone like Newsom.
Newsom is unelectable and will not beat Trump or a Trump surrogate in the next federal election, and will not do anything to fix what Trump has done if he does get elected. It doesn’t matter how much voter shaming you do. Understand this, please, for the love of God. I do not want my country to have to go to war against yours.
How many times do you guys have to lose against Trump before you realize that the candidates you’re backing aren’t electable? You haven’t even tried a candidate that is true bonafide leftist.
Except mamdani. Who won his election.
You can hardly hold a New York mayoral election as a proxy for how the country votes.
Okay but I absolutely can point to the democrats losing elections against objectively unpopular republican candidates in federal elections.
How many offices are elected by the country at large?
Exactly one.
Fascists hate socialists because they attract the same people.
It’s not a saying, it’s a thought-terminating cliche used to shut down discussions by making your opponent seem “unreasonable” under any circumstance. For example, one could say “We should appreciate having Donald Trump as president because Hitler caused a lot more harm. Don’t let perfect be the enemy of good” and be just as accurate as what you’re saying now.
What’s the scenario where they “become electable” in your mind, and what exactly is the path between here and there that involves electing more Bidens and Newsoms while being continuously told that anyone better is unelectable?
He is a corpocrate. A shill for the wealthy. He represents the white moderates.
MLK advocated for some pretty radical changes to our society. Not just racial equality. We need the white moderates to lose their investments, or they won’t really help. They have too much to lose, they think maybe tomorrow would be more opportune.
Same then, same now.
This is exactly the time to be going after libs like Newsom. Move the party left before primaries.
I actually agree with you. But experience tells me we’re too principled and undisciplined to support any candidate after the primaries.
I agree with that. Both voters and politicians share the blame for Trump being in office. Democrats fail to run good candidates, but voters refuse to have their voices heard in primaries as well as thinking that doing a “protest vote” in generals is useful.
I will support him as far as it supports positive movement. I will criticize him otherwise. Same with every neo-liberal before him, and will continue with every neo-liberal after him.
The options have been rather poor, let’s all be honest here. This would work if we were talking about say, AOC. Newsom, however, is bad. Very bad.
Pritzker is fairly good.
Very bad is a sliding scale. And he ain’t that. I’m in California and see it first hand, it’s 55% good.
Ask some trans people about this if you know any. If you don’t, ask 196, there’s plenty there.
https://archive.org/details/michael-parenti-inventing-reality-recorded-1993
Just hold on, any day now Lemmy will find a candidate so pure they can rally behind them.
Any day now.
They don’t need to rally, just grow enough as people to hold their noses and vote.
The fucker is a democrat trump.
Jesus fucking Christ how deluded are you?
Idealists are letting perfect be the enemy of the good but I don’t think that’s why Democrats underperformed. Neither Clinton nor Biden/Harris were idealists of this sort (despite some stuff Harris said but didn’t mean back in the 2020 primaries) and they didn’t lose elections because of a lack of support from the idealists. So IMO while the idealists aren’t helping, the very much non-idealistic institutions of the Democratic party which prioritize seniority within the party over electability are to blame.
Considering how close both 2016 and 2024 were, don’t be so sure.
Clinton I don’t know. Harris did for sure (her less that “perfect” stance on Palestine). And Biden, the most centrist of the three, won. so, your point?
Biden didn’t win because he ran a great campaign, though he did at least give some lip service in an attempt to bring the progressives in after the primary, he won because Trump was currently in office and his chaos and damage was undeniable and at the top of people’s minds.
Instead of trying to parse out which of three centrist candidates was more centrist (not as obvious as you claim), there’s actually a simple pattern. Every one of those elections was won by the “change” candidate. As people get more and more ground down by the impacts of decades of neoliberalism draining wealth from the middle class, the non ideological segment of the electorate just keeps asking for “different from now”.
The last few elections had historically unpopular, zero charisma candidates who all had policy positions so far right, they weren’t just to the right of the dem voter base, they were to the right of the average American…
Acting like anyone more liberal than Ronald Reagan was the problem is actively harmful, be cause yelling out voters to shut up and vote blue no matter who won’t actually solve anything.
And as we saw with Biden, at a certain point the absence of more harm isnt enough.
We need someone “progressive” enough to actually try and implement a solution.
Even the voting members of the DNC realized that a year ago…