California Gov. Gavin Newsom’s office said the governor was denied entry into a venue at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, on Jan. 21, after being invited to speak at the event due to “pressure” from the Trump administration.
Newsom had been scheduled to speak with Fortune at the USA House, Davos, a privately organized event, at the World Economic Forum, which has been recognized by the U.S. government as the nation’s headquarters in Davos.
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This is really funny considering Trump and Newsome seem to agree on quite a few things
I would one thousand percent prefer Newsom over Trump and I almost guarantee Newsom wouldn’t send his brownshirts into red states to shoot mothers.
Our standards have fallen so low
Sure, but why is he the alternative we should bring up?
He just kneeled and licked the boots of fascist Ben Shapiro, the gap is much smaller than you’d think
Can you link the video, if you have time?
Seriously?
Gavin is basically Hilary 2.0. if he becomes president, expect Trump 2.0.
Yeah, seriously. Are you unaware of the fucking stakes right now?
Do you purposefully misspell his name?
I do. Ok, sometimes I write tRUMP, but most of the time my keyboard just types obese orange child rapist all by itself…
Time for my least favorite game!
“Imagine a Democrat did that to a Republican!”
… Fox News would be running that story for a week, screaming at the public about how they’re being discriminated against and how the Democrats hate freedom and free speech. How they hate “you” and your “values” etc etc etc…
“Gavin Newsom-” aaand the comments are flooded lmao. I mean, I despise Newsom as much as I can, but, also, this is World News.
In the spirit of a non-USA news subreddit, I’ll point out that California governor Newsom feels like a weird speaker for a world economic event. Yes, I know Newsom had to deal with the Republican administration when ICE and the military were deployed to Los Angeles, CA; but if you’re looking for a leader to advise you on opposing Trump from an economic standpoint, wouldn’t an economic department head from Canada be a better choice?
Canada’s been dealing with Republican isolationist tariff policy fairly well from what I know. Facing the most direct pressure over the “51st state” invasion threats, the Canadian population is pushing away from USA brands and investing in domestic products. With alllll the nations facing tariffs from the USA, surely a dialogue about encouraging such shifts in a population would be valuable.
Given that snivelling Nigel Fucking Farage spoke at one of the Davos events the bar can’t be that high.
California has the fourth largest economy in the world.
it out-performs Canada.
so yeah, it makes sense to have him there as a speaker.
if you’re talking about policy choices, canada has a lot more relevance to a world economic forum though. ata bare minimum, california is a lot more constrained in how it can behave, making its solutions largely only relevant to the context of other US states - unless you’re talking purely social/soft solutions
I don’t know where you got that idea from. doesn’t make sense when you think about it.
do you really believe there are economic constraints on a state in the largest economic country that holds capitalism in the highest regard?
If they push for something like emission standards in the US, other states get drawn in since OEMs need to adhere to California and it’s often easier just to make the 1 product everywhere, but that also ripples outside the country to some extent.
Fuck republicans and fuck Newsom!
If he wins the primary he’s got my vote I tell you what.
I mean, a devil with hooves would be a better president than Trump. It could do much less damage.
But Newsom? Yea, he’s also right around there somewhere. He is a 100% just another puppet for the same billionares as Trump is (Thiel, Tech bros, Murdoch, Bibi etc.).
Nothing would change for the better under him. The ultra-rich would keep on getting richer, while everyone else would keep on sliding down. Fully 2/3 of the US citizens now live paycheck to paycheck. Both Trump and Newsom would be mainly working on bringing this up to 95-99%. Which would be causing even more (well deserved) unrest. And so Newsom would/is blaming the migrants for this, just the same. I mean, somebody has to be the scapegoat, so people don’t realise the rich would need to be taxed. And migrants are the obvious, already well-propagandised choice. Maybe ICE would murder and brutalise a few less people under Newsom, but even that is not guaranteed.
This is ABSURD! He’s sucked ENOUGH Rich Dick to be Allowed entry!
ITT, idealists once again letting perfect be the enemy of good.
It’s worked so well the past few elections.
Fetterman/Gabbard 2028! Yes we can!!1!
why would you post such an ugly thing
The Democrats have had nothing but people like Newsom since the 1980s but you think that’s the best course of action? He was invited there because he would only talk about cultural grievances and not the economic ones that the wealthy are currently causing.
Nobody wants perfect. A neoliberal Democrat winning will just continue the kleptocracy while lying to us about it. Bill Clinton, Obama, Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris are controlled opposition.
Also, Ben Shapiro, the lying little shit ran circles around him on Newsom’s podcast. Made him seem like a weak bitch.
Before then tbh
The Democrats have had nothing but people like Newsom since the 1980s but you think that’s the best course of action?
Well, they won every popular vote except two, so don’t be so quick to throw out the baby with the bathwater
Yes, Obama ran on hope, change and anti-war… A litera promised leftist revolution. What did we get? More centrists. Democrats lost over 1000 seats in state and federal offices. Bankers in charge of policing banks. George W Bush and his cronies walking free after years on criminal activity by his administration.
Biden was just the result of the DNC and all of the centrists grouping together to defeat Bernie Sanders for the second time.
That must be why the country has been so awesome during all that time!
Because at the time of the general election all other options left of center right are effectively removed with no support from the democratic party. They basically haven’t even pretended to have a democratic primary since Obama in 2008, instead choosing to coronate whoever the super delegates choose, which has worked true wonders for the party /s. They’re already starting the motions to do this again with their next center right candidate in Newsom.
Well, they won every popular vote except two, so don’t be so quick to throw out the baby with the bathwater
Why not run a charismatic candidate with popular policy and win the electoral college too?
We’re not trying to tie one hand behind our backs to impress our dads, we should do what has the best chance of actually winning…
would only apply if Gavin Newsom was “good”.
He is not good, he even denied genocide in Gaza and protected billionaires
Stop saying that bullshit nonsense. He is not “good”. We don’t demand perfection, we demand that these people don’t be genocidal right wing fascist light.
I hate whatever pundit told you all to say “dont let perfect be the enemy of good.” It makes me feel like I’m talking to a bunch of programmed robots.
It’s a saying that isn’t new.
I welcome critique if Newsom before the primaries. I love AOC and sanders and walz as much as anyone here, but until one of them is electable, we’re kinda stuck in this chicken or the egg problem here. Like it or not, and to be clear i do not, someone with true leftist bona fides isn’t yet electable in the US. The best we can hope for is someone who can listen and change their mind.
It’s not a saying, it’s a thought-terminating cliche used to shut down discussions by making your opponent seem “unreasonable” under any circumstance. For example, one could say “We should appreciate having Donald Trump as president because Hitler caused a lot more harm. Don’t let perfect be the enemy of good” and be just as accurate as what you’re saying now.
I love AOC and sanders and walz as much as anyone here, but until one of them is electable, we’re kinda stuck in this chicken or the egg problem here. Like it or not, and to be clear i do not, someone with true leftist bona fides isn’t yet electable in the US.
What’s the scenario where they “become electable” in your mind, and what exactly is the path between here and there that involves electing more Bidens and Newsoms while being continuously told that anyone better is unelectable?
youre giving up before there are even primaries. You dont want a leftist in the primaries?
As a voter in the primaries I go leftist. But if I’ve got money on the outcome, it’s someone like Newsom.
Newsom is unelectable and will not beat Trump or a Trump surrogate in the next federal election, and will not do anything to fix what Trump has done if he does get elected. It doesn’t matter how much voter shaming you do. Understand this, please, for the love of God. I do not want my country to have to go to war against yours.
How many times do you guys have to lose against Trump before you realize that the candidates you’re backing aren’t electable? You haven’t even tried a candidate that is true bonafide leftist.
Except mamdani. Who won his election.
You can hardly hold a New York mayoral election as a proxy for how the country votes.
Okay but I absolutely can point to the democrats losing elections against objectively unpopular republican candidates in federal elections.
How many offices are elected by the country at large?
Exactly one.
Fascists hate socialists because they attract the same people.
…So, then, running a socialist would take votes away from Trump, no?
He is a corpocrate. A shill for the wealthy. He represents the white moderates.
I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to “order” than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: “I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action”; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man’s freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a “more convenient season.” Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection.
MLK advocated for some pretty radical changes to our society. Not just racial equality. We need the white moderates to lose their investments, or they won’t really help. They have too much to lose, they think maybe tomorrow would be more opportune.
Same then, same now.
This is exactly the time to be going after libs like Newsom. Move the party left before primaries.
I actually agree with you. But experience tells me we’re too principled and undisciplined to support any candidate after the primaries.
I agree with that. Both voters and politicians share the blame for Trump being in office. Democrats fail to run good candidates, but voters refuse to have their voices heard in primaries as well as thinking that doing a “protest vote” in generals is useful.
The options have been rather poor, let’s all be honest here. This would work if we were talking about say, AOC. Newsom, however, is bad. Very bad.
Pritzker is fairly good.
Very bad is a sliding scale. And he ain’t that. I’m in California and see it first hand, it’s 55% good.
Ask some trans people about this if you know any. If you don’t, ask 196, there’s plenty there.
I will support him as far as it supports positive movement. I will criticize him otherwise. Same with every neo-liberal before him, and will continue with every neo-liberal after him.
The fucker is a democrat trump.
Jesus fucking Christ how deluded are you?
Idealists are letting perfect be the enemy of the good but I don’t think that’s why Democrats underperformed. Neither Clinton nor Biden/Harris were idealists of this sort (despite some stuff Harris said but didn’t mean back in the 2020 primaries) and they didn’t lose elections because of a lack of support from the idealists. So IMO while the idealists aren’t helping, the very much non-idealistic institutions of the Democratic party which prioritize seniority within the party over electability are to blame.
Considering how close both 2016 and 2024 were, don’t be so sure.
Clinton I don’t know. Harris did for sure (her less that “perfect” stance on Palestine). And Biden, the most centrist of the three, won. so, your point?
Biden didn’t win because he ran a great campaign, though he did at least give some lip service in an attempt to bring the progressives in after the primary, he won because Trump was currently in office and his chaos and damage was undeniable and at the top of people’s minds.
Instead of trying to parse out which of three centrist candidates was more centrist (not as obvious as you claim), there’s actually a simple pattern. Every one of those elections was won by the “change” candidate. As people get more and more ground down by the impacts of decades of neoliberalism draining wealth from the middle class, the non ideological segment of the electorate just keeps asking for “different from now”.
It’s worked so well the past few elections.
The last few elections had historically unpopular, zero charisma candidates who all had policy positions so far right, they weren’t just to the right of the dem voter base, they were to the right of the average American…
Acting like anyone more liberal than Ronald Reagan was the problem is actively harmful, be cause yelling out voters to shut up and vote blue no matter who won’t actually solve anything.
And as we saw with Biden, at a certain point the absence of more harm isnt enough.
We need someone “progressive” enough to actually try and implement a solution.
Even the voting members of the DNC realized that a year ago…
Just hold on, any day now Lemmy will find a candidate so pure they can rally behind them.
Any day now.
They don’t need to rally, just grow enough as people to hold their noses and vote.
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I mean, I’m generally in favor of keeping US news out of World News, but this clearly fits here. Any drama at a meeting of world leaders is a World event.
World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland
Key Attendees Include:
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Silencing dissenting voices at an international venue from a notable and experienced politician is an international issue. International access to American political voices, especially those on disagreement with the current leadership, is an important thing for world, and international business leaders to hear, which is exactly what the Fortune Magazine dinner event he was denied entry to is about.
Look at this another way…rather than “American governor wasn’t allowed to speak to international audience”, it is equally “international audience not allowed to hear from American governor”
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I’m not sure how you can look at someone being blocked from speaking to an international audience of world and business leaders - not because nobody is interested, but for political reasons - and not see that as an international issue, regardless of who the involved parties are.
An international organization: We want this person to speak
The international audience: We have come here, expecting that this person will be speaking in this place and at this time
The International press: We cover this international event every year, where this person will be speaking
A US Politician: We have pressured management so that this person cannot speak here because we don’t like what they have to say
You: This is an internal US issue
Like… what?
I get that you may not give a shit about what Gavin Newsom has to say but clearly that international audience, the organizers, and others did. And they were denied that opportunity. That’s international news whether you care about it or not
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And you didn’t read the article. He wasn’t setting up a booth. He was a featured speaker.
Official US room? You don’t even understand the story. “The US House, Davos” is a location, a venue, where the Fortune Global Leadership Dinner is being held.
I’ll inform the Danes.
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Clown governor getting the standard Trump pimp slap.
This man is never going to be president if Donald Trump can bully him so easily
This man is never going to be president
Oh no, the guy who hates the homeless, trans, and podcasts with Charlie Kirk and Ben Shapiro might not be president?
It’s almost worse than him hating homeless and trans people. He doesn’t give a single shit about them. He’ll do whatever he thinks will get him votes. He’ll talk shit about trans people one day and talk about how he wants to protect them the next. I’m convinced that he doesn’t have a single belief that he wouldn’t give up to be the Democratic nominee in 2028, if we even have elections then. Nothing that comes out of his mouth is worth listening to.
Exactly, the problem isn’t even what he has give up to be the nominee and win, it’s what he’s going to do once he’s in office and doesn’t have to pretend to appease voters. He’s basically JD Vance with mask on and better PR
Newsom would be a categorically awful pick for president. Being better than orangeboi is a very, very low bar.
And this of course also assumes we’re still having elections at that point - let alone this year.
He blocked RCV so forever on my naughty list
No idea why you’re being downvoted. Likely the Liberal Mob with the “he’s better than what we’ve got” mentality.
Newsom might be good at trolling Trump, but he’s a garbage Neolib dick-weasel.
I think Newsom has a mob that idolises seeing him do theatrical owns of MAGA and confuses that with having a plan or substance and I think they see criticism of that as not fighting enough against MAGA
I don’t know how you see his soundbites at Davos and don’t notice they are for domestic US voters and have no substance besides a performative campaign akin to Trump’s strongman
Those owns are fun and good, but they’re not Newsome. His Twitter lady can just go work for a good candidate. He himself is worthless.
I like to refer to the folks that believe in him (and people like him) as Blue MAGA.
Don’t forget BlueAnon too. The people currently arguing with me in a separate post about how we shouldn’t be complaining about all the inaction from Democrats because now’s not the right time to act and they’ve totally got some 4D chess move planned for the future - COMING SOON®™
I’m not a fan of Gavin since he’s just a run of the mill neoliberal, but I think it’s silly to characterize this as his getting bullied, the USA House was the one that caved in this instance.
I would argue that this strengthens his campaign. Puts him in the spotlight more than if he had spoken.
I would argue that this strengthens his campaign.
Imagining you saying this while wearing a big “Pokemon Go To The Polls” T-shirt
Strengths? Like not being Trump and what else?
No, you got them all.
He’s gonna save America from Trump! I can smell the “liberating” narratives already, lol. Then shit will continue going down the drain and the Confederates/Republicans/Conservatives/MAGA will be upset and in some years you’ll have an already popular MAGA dude run for president and win, and it goes on and on. Maybe the Democrats will sprinkle some seasoning and have a brown “Muslim” dude or black woman president then, which will only annoy racist MAGA even more, making the next Republican candidate very popular and etc.
That’s what we do best! Cycles so cyclical ouroboros is jealous
As long as Trump gets comeuppance I don’t care who does it.
What do you want him to do, force himself in to speak? I’m not a fan of the guy but I don’t understand what he’s supposed to do here
I’m not a fan of the guy but I don’t understand what he’s supposed to do here
You still haven’t articulated how he’s the one being bullied and not USA house, but ok.
