Voting to leave the EU and therefore Eurostat and then going onto the internet a few years later to complain that Eurostat didn’t include the UK in one of their statistics is really something.
Switzerland and Norway are not in the EU either. All 3 non EU countries in Europe make up 25% of GDP.
They signed an agreement 2 years ago, they should put the data in for comparison.
Maybe they have political instructions, they really want to say the UK has been damaged by Brexit, but the actual stats, not bullshit models, tell a different story
Edit. This isn’t Reddit, your downvotes don’t censor me in any way. Lol
Taken together, independent assessments paint a consistent picture: Brexit has reduced UK GDP (estimates commonly span roughly 2–8% to date, with central academic estimates clustering around 6–8% by 2025), slashed business investment (commonly estimated down 12–18% by mid‑2020s and in some scenarios far larger over decades), and trimmed productivity (roughly 3–4% in many studies and up to 4% in OBR scenarios), and they identify trade frictions, uncertainty and misallocation as core drivers—facts that point to policy levers on trade facilitation, investment incentives and productivity reforms if the UK seeks to narrow the gap with its peers [2] [4] [1] [3].
damn near all economy experts agree on a negative, long-term impact fo the UK economy. they just can’t be entirely sure how bad it was, just that it was quite bad.
single digit percentage points don’t sound too bad, but when it’s entire percentage points pf an entire economy that actually works out to billions in lost economic activity.
the stats you provided do not show any comparison to a no-brexit/remain scenario, which is what should be compared.
if we only ever look at past data, and never compare that data to alternative scenarios, then it gets really difficult to make better decisions in the future.
in circumstances where the sample size is naturally limited to just 1, it is necessary to perform simulations in order to gain insight into the outcome of any given event. there’s not really any other way to do this.
what you call “wank estimates” (very scientific, thank you) is a collection of well established research methodologies that have been used with great success in both predicting future outcomes and analyzing past outcomes.
this is evidence. it provides mathematical certainty, in this case about brexit.
this is factual evidence, not simply “wank estimates”.
and the evidence suggests that the UK economy would be significantly better off without brexit.
this is simply fact.
that the UK economy did mostly fine on its own is not relevant, because that’s not the point.
the point is, that it would have been better for the economy, if the UK had remained.
Or maybe the brits didn’t submit any data? If you’re spouting conspiracy stuff of political instructions to surpress british interest, please provide some sources.
When this data was recorded, the UK was not in the EU and did not have an agreement to share data with Eurostat. This is equivalent to complaining that Mercosur doesn’t show the UK in its data
It absolutely is. At the time of the data being recorded, the UK was not a member of either organisation and did not have an agreement to share data with either organisation.
Take a look at the source - there is no UK data being reported by Eurostat
https://blog.ons.gov.uk/2024/10/09/arrangement-marks-a-new-era-of-statistical-cooperation-with-eurostat/
The most recent data on the source is 2024 and that agreement is dated late 2024. The UK is not in the 2024 data
For the most recent year that there is UK data for, 2018, we were slightly below France
Everyone else manages to include the UK, OECD, World Bank, IMF etc.
Just petty eurocrats. Leaving out the 2nd largest economy is pretty daft.
You chose to be left out. You don’t get to bitch about others respecting your decisions.
I do though. Doing it right now. Try and stop me.
It’s a shit map, badly labeled and incomplete.
Try to*
Voting to leave the EU and therefore Eurostat and then going onto the internet a few years later to complain that Eurostat didn’t include the UK in one of their statistics is really something.
Switzerland and Norway are not in the EU either. All 3 non EU countries in Europe make up 25% of GDP.
They signed an agreement 2 years ago, they should put the data in for comparison.
Maybe they have political instructions, they really want to say the UK has been damaged by Brexit, but the actual stats, not bullshit models, tell a different story
Edit. This isn’t Reddit, your downvotes don’t censor me in any way. Lol
yeah, nah, brexit did have a major negative Impact on the UK economy:
damn near all economy experts agree on a negative, long-term impact fo the UK economy. they just can’t be entirely sure how bad it was, just that it was quite bad.
single digit percentage points don’t sound too bad, but when it’s entire percentage points pf an entire economy that actually works out to billions in lost economic activity.
the stats you provided do not show any comparison to a no-brexit/remain scenario, which is what should be compared.
Estimates are not facts. Stick to the facts. The UK has performed exactly the same as France and Germany post Brexit
All these wank estimates you cling onto are just models. Where is the control?
if we only ever look at past data, and never compare that data to alternative scenarios, then it gets really difficult to make better decisions in the future.
in circumstances where the sample size is naturally limited to just 1, it is necessary to perform simulations in order to gain insight into the outcome of any given event. there’s not really any other way to do this.
what you call “wank estimates” (very scientific, thank you) is a collection of well established research methodologies that have been used with great success in both predicting future outcomes and analyzing past outcomes.
this is evidence. it provides mathematical certainty, in this case about brexit.
this is factual evidence, not simply “wank estimates”.
and the evidence suggests that the UK economy would be significantly better off without brexit.
this is simply fact.
that the UK economy did mostly fine on its own is not relevant, because that’s not the point.
the point is, that it would have been better for the economy, if the UK had remained.
Or maybe the brits didn’t submit any data? If you’re spouting conspiracy stuff of political instructions to surpress british interest, please provide some sources.
They signed a deal in 2024 to continue submitting stats, these are the facts. Draw your own conclusions
Please provide a source that they have submitted those stats to Eurostat.
Switzerland and Norway actually ARE “in the EU”. at least more so than the UK.
they are both Schengen countries.
there are multiple levels of EU membership, and the UK has none.
that’s why those two are included and the UK is not.
They are not in the EU. Norway is in the single market, Switzerland is not.
Keep downvoting facts though lol
When this data was recorded, the UK was not in the EU and did not have an agreement to share data with Eurostat. This is equivalent to complaining that Mercosur doesn’t show the UK in its data
It’s not.
It absolutely is. At the time of the data being recorded, the UK was not a member of either organisation and did not have an agreement to share data with either organisation.
It’s not the equivalent of being involved with a terrible trade deal like mercosur
The chart has no year, or what the units are
What on Earth does your opinion on Mercosur’s trade deals have to do with whether or not the UK is sharing data with them?
I gave you the year in my first reply to you: the most recent year of data in the source (a partial source, but it gives us a limit) is 2024.
It’s PPP, it is the international dollar. PPP is strictly a relative measure, units are not important.