What’s the unit of those numbers? Since they are adjusted for PPP, can’t be euros?
If you follow the link, the unit of measure is Euros, but it gives different values from the screenshot
Hmm, I am most surprised by Austria. Especially since afaik wages in Austria tend to be a bit lower than in Germany for example.
If I were to guess, social housing is probably making a big difference there, as rents tend to remain lower and people have more money available to spend elsewhere
What could the EU commission do to improve East European numbers?
Keep on going. The gap is actually slowly closing, as the eastern members economies are growing quickly, partly due to EU support.
Except hungary but what were doing is kind of like having a full-automatic rifle, pointing it at your foot and just holding down the trigger. Then your buddy(the eu) comes over and starts telling you to stop unloading 200 rounds a minute into your right foot but you just start shouting that its his fault that this is happening. Also did i mention this is at a 200m sprint race where you got a 100m head start and one other competitor(bulgaria) got a 100m set back, and they are still catching up to you? Just a simple analogy to describe the situation /s
That is honestly a huge part of why this works. The EU has played a big part in making sure that the eastern members have not slipped into becoming dictatorships. (Except Hungary of cause)
Lower the salaries in all other countries.
/s
thaaat’s gonna be very popular :)
UK stats are being shared again with Eurostat, there’s no reason to leave us out if Norway and Switzerland are on there
Norway and Switzerland are EEA countries. Part of the inner market, not part of the customs union, no euro and no representation in the commission or parliament. Adopts most legislation.
There are shit ton of low level participation from Norway and Switzerland in AdCo’s, Group of Experts, CEN and other sub groups and working groups. So makes perfect sense to include them.
Switzerland is not in the EEA. This is just a fact you don’t like.
They have bilateral agreements, same as the UK does
Tbh. I have no feelings at all for the issue. You on the other hand seem to have plenty.
I don’t know about the UK, but I talk to my Swiss “colleagues” in several arenas (including EFTA) whereas I haven’t seen anyone from the UK since Brexit. To me from my low perch Switzerland seem much more integrated than the UK. The again Iceland is not included in the infographic, and they are an EEA member
Switzerland is in continental Europe, the UK isn’t, and the FOM was always very asymmetric. Most Brits chose Canada, New Zealand or Australia to move to, even when still in the EU.
Switzerland is not in the EEA.
They have bilateral agreements.
This is absolutely correct.
same as the UK does
This is very wrong. The level of integration between Switzerland and the EU is almost at the same level as a full member. While the UK told everyone to go fuck themselves. They aren’t even in Schengen for fuck’s sake.
The Swiss have more bilateral deals. The UK has a lot in one.
We’ve never been in Schengen.
We should have defaulted to EFTA as that’s where we were when we entered the common market. The EU changed a lot in 1993, we didn’t sign up for that.
Switzerland has more than 120 agreements with the EU, including being part of the Schengen area, the UK is just getting started of having the first few in place. The UK also made it a political sticking point that they are not EU members for the past few years, kinda going against the ideal of ever closer European integration.
They are still not in the EU or EEA. My point stands.
Take a look at the source - there is no UK data being reported by Eurostat
The most recent data on the source is 2024 and that agreement is dated late 2024. The UK is not in the 2024 data
For the most recent year that there is UK data for, 2018, we were slightly below France
Everyone else manages to include the UK, OECD, World Bank, IMF etc.
Just petty eurocrats. Leaving out the 2nd largest economy is pretty daft.
You chose to be left out. You don’t get to bitch about others respecting your decisions.
I do though. Doing it right now. Try and stop me.
It’s a shit map, badly labeled and incomplete.
Try to*
Voting to leave the EU and therefore Eurostat and then going onto the internet a few years later to complain that Eurostat didn’t include the UK in one of their statistics is really something.
Switzerland and Norway are not in the EU either. All 3 non EU countries in Europe make up 25% of GDP.
They signed an agreement 2 years ago, they should put the data in for comparison.
Maybe they have political instructions, they really want to say the UK has been damaged by Brexit, but the actual stats, not bullshit models, tell a different story
Edit. This isn’t Reddit, your downvotes don’t censor me in any way. Lol
yeah, nah, brexit did have a major negative Impact on the UK economy:
Taken together, independent assessments paint a consistent picture: Brexit has reduced UK GDP (estimates commonly span roughly 2–8% to date, with central academic estimates clustering around 6–8% by 2025), slashed business investment (commonly estimated down 12–18% by mid‑2020s and in some scenarios far larger over decades), and trimmed productivity (roughly 3–4% in many studies and up to 4% in OBR scenarios), and they identify trade frictions, uncertainty and misallocation as core drivers—facts that point to policy levers on trade facilitation, investment incentives and productivity reforms if the UK seeks to narrow the gap with its peers [2] [4] [1] [3].
damn near all economy experts agree on a negative, long-term impact fo the UK economy. they just can’t be entirely sure how bad it was, just that it was quite bad.
single digit percentage points don’t sound too bad, but when it’s entire percentage points pf an entire economy that actually works out to billions in lost economic activity.
the stats you provided do not show any comparison to a no-brexit/remain scenario, which is what should be compared.
Or maybe the brits didn’t submit any data? If you’re spouting conspiracy stuff of political instructions to surpress british interest, please provide some sources.
Switzerland and Norway actually ARE “in the EU”. at least more so than the UK.
they are both Schengen countries.
there are multiple levels of EU membership, and the UK has none.
that’s why those two are included and the UK is not.
When this data was recorded, the UK was not in the EU and did not have an agreement to share data with Eurostat. This is equivalent to complaining that Mercosur doesn’t show the UK in its data
It’s not.
It absolutely is. At the time of the data being recorded, the UK was not a member of either organisation and did not have an agreement to share data with either organisation.
Or Turkey for that matter. Although it is nice to have a certified shithole on here for comparison.
The UK is not in the EEA though
Neither is Switzerland
they kind of are (from Wikipedia, too lazy to look up the government source):
The non-EU member states of Iceland, Norway, Liechtenstein and Switzerland participate in the single market but not in the customs union.
Switzerland is not in the EEA. It has access to the single market via lots of bilateral deals, same as the UK.
That chart seems highly incorrect:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)_per_capitaBy all three organizations Denmark is higher than Sweden and Germany by a margin of almost 10%.
I have no idea why EU would be so far off everybody else?Wikipedia numbers are not the absolute newest, but the past few years the economy of Denmark has done way better than average for EU, where Germany has been clearly behind Denmark.
The chart above regards the median, but Denmark is generally among the most balanced regarding having high wages at the low end. So that should favor Denmark even more compared to Germany.
From the link OP has posted:
Numbers for all ages, Euro 2024 as 2025 is not available:
Sweden 26.915,-
Germany 27.619,-
Denmark 34.843,-Totally in line with what I would have expected!!
Median household income isn’t the same as GDP per capita. Moreover, both the value of GDP and the correction for PPP are dependent on the methodology to estimate them.
Median household income isn’t the same as GDP per capita.
On top of that, it’s also disposable median income, so accounts for taxes and such, which could also be a factor between high and low tax states.
And cost of living. I’m guessing that’s a big part of how Cyprus ends up with more disposable income than Italy.
I would think the normal number is average, but IDK?
Normally median is specified as average is normally the default.deleted by creator
You have to change the unit of measure to PPP/PPS as described by the graph itself and then you will see that the 2023 data is displayed
If I change to PPS Denmark is still higher than Germeny for 2024.
There is nowhere in the picture it is stated the numbers are from 2023.
And for 2023 Denmark is higher than Sweden.
You should have specified what you actually changed to get the graph you show, as it is it is completely useless.Why are you so hostile, dude? Chill and take a look. Go to the source. Check those options. Take a look at the 2023 data. That is the stuff in the map. And even if you’re looking at the 2024 or 2025 data, there hasn’t been that much change.
