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    Fuck these far right parties and their voters. Fuck the centrist parties for not being progressive enough to not give people a reason to slip to the right. And fuck the left wing parties for fighting each other. But most of all, fuck the US for lobbying all these politician fucks to vote against European interests.

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        Centrist parties are not progressive enough idealistically, they are mostly opportunistic. Instead of making politics to bring society forward and make people’s lives better, tgey mostly care about being and staying in power. Somehow, many centrist parties concluded that early successes of the rising far right parties beyond the usual few percent meant that voters bought far right programs and did not (also) want to make a statement against who’s in power, so centrist parties started to adopt far right policies, believing that would get voters back to voting them. Instead, they normalized far right positions, helping push the overton window further to the right, continuing to worsen the situation for most people instead of improving and making extremist parties not looking that extreme anymore but a valid choice in elections, resulting in further gains for far right parties.

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    Maybe those far-right southern Europeans should leave the currency area and live their technology museum dreams without dragging other with them

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      The rapporteur is Spanish but I’m quite sure most of the far right votes come from elsewhere… hell, these days they come from all over the continent anyway. The trick is, once again, vote for EP elections and vote for pro-EU parties only. Far-right or -left is made of Russian puppets dancing to Chinese marches…

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        Far-right or -left is made of Russian puppets dancing to Chinese marches…

        And it’s Russia and China who are protecting Visa’s and Mastercard’s monopoly?

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          They don’t want European competition and especially no European power in whatever shape.

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            China and Russia? A Europe that is fully controlled by the US is much more dangerous for them.

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              No. The most dangerous Europe for China, Russia or the US is an independent and unified Europe. A Europe controlled by the US is weak and divided, much easier to distract and kept in check.

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                An independent Europe would fit into the multipolar world. A dependend Europe will be used by the US to decouple China and Russia from the rest of the world.

                For Russia snd China, an independend Europe would be best.

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                  A subjugated, without own defensive capacity, better for them? Then they can dismiss our democracies and freedom with the simple accusation of being a “US colony”. A strong, independent and autonomous democratic Europe with a strong social system is the biggest threat to any dictatorship or empire.