What people in the US also need to realize is, that the rest of the world still enjoys more or less unchanged prices on these sites. It is only the US that has put tarrifs on them and it has only affected the American consumers
On the other hand, American products are getting more expensive everywhere else, because of the retaliational tarrifs by the usa.
So it is a double edged sword, but the US is holding it by it’s blade! With both hands!
The US is screaming and holding a hot pan fresh out of the oven, but refusing to just set it down and use the fucking oven mits next time.
Meanwhile, other countries are watching this happen, but somehow having a relatively difficult time deciding if they maybe want to give it a try with their own government.
Until sellers start jacking prices up elsewhere in the world to make up for lost revenue from the American market
Americans are dumb as fuck
Yup.
Gonna spend the rest of my life knowing I’m surrounded by fucking morons. And I’m not some genius. I had a typical public education. I guess the difference is I actually paid attention.
Not a great feeling. Especially since that probably means things aren’t generally gonna get better. Can’t have a good society if it’s overflowing with dipshits.
Gonna spend the rest of my life knowing I’m surrounded by fucking morons. And I’m not some genius. I had a typical public education. I guess the difference is I actually paid attention.
Yep, I’m smart enough to know I’m not that smart. But I can at least look around me and go “This isn’t normal, right?”
It’s a weird fucking curse to have. Smarter than the average American due to the decades of under-funding the education system. I know how to use a computer more than boomers and younger people stuck using machines locked down by corporations.
Ask me to do a math question higher than high school level? I’m going to flounder. You ask me who was president in 1890 without looking it up, I probably know it. And I know that’s not exactly a flex, it’s probably overall better to know more advanced math than trivia, but it’s just how my brain works.
And yet I’m still smarter than Trump and his cultists.
This is by design. Decades of eroding education and critical thinking have produced a populace that is highly ignorant and extremely easy to manipulate.
There is a reason why attacking education is the first thing any right-wing government does.
Doesn’t help that a whole lot of idiots also think it’s somehow very clever of them to “rise above” it all by acting like it’s “both sides”. This is what passes (for a special kind of smug idiot) for political acumen.
Of course, the “liberal media” harps on the “both sides” thing all the freaking time. Which is why I find it mighty curious that a lot of supposed “leftists” take up that mantra, too.
*Rightists.
Right wingers are the only people I hear the “both sides” mantra from. I don’t know what media you’re consuming, but you got it ass backwards.
The bullshit “liberal media” does the “both sides” thing all the freaking time.
And I’m talking about an awful lot of supposed leftists on places like Lemmy that do things like “but Biden’s economy was actually BAD!” and so on. I could go on for other examples…now, whether I believe most of them are actual leftists, I dunno…
That example is not leftists, no matter what they claim. It’s like a lot of “Independent” voters are just too embarrassed to own up to what they really are. “Leftists” or what we call Dems, are more likely to accept their L’s and don’t harbor proven criminals. No Dem was crying when Senator Mendenez was caught, and most believe he deserves whatever punishment he has earned. If they spout republican talking points, and whine like little children, claim their losses were “stolen”, etc then they’re rightists.
You must be new to lemmy
Amongst wealthy countries, the US scores above average in science and reading comprehension, and are only really showing lag in mathematics. In terms of critical thinking, this has been a baked-in element of the curriculum, that was intentionally baked-in, for a long time now. Most countries are this way, and those that have dedicated time to specifically critical thinking, as its own subject, are relatively new, and not many do it, in primary education, yet. So this means the US is not unique in how poorly students are taught critical thinking, amongst countries with similar levels of resources.
Also, baby boomers demonstrated a lower level of critical thinking skills, than kids do today, they also show sharper cognitive decline, earlier in life, than X, and millennials have been. So is it that the conservatives have been trying to disassemble the public school system, to move funds to privatized education, thus eroding the common access to education? If so, why does the US actually score well compared to its peers? Why is it that the oldest common generation is actually the worst of the common generations, still alive, for things like critical thinking, and cognitive decline?
So there is some other factor(s) that make the US seem to stand out on this issue, amongst peers. Could it be US media specifically empowering the voice of morons, because outrage drives viewership, and profit is the only goal to US news/media companies? Is it that the elites within the conservative party have redesigned their entire party structure, and playbook, to empower morons, because morons vote for them more often than not? Is it a combination of these factors, and others, that have been shaping the US in this fashion? Could this be why we have been seeing greater, and greater, pushes from political influence groups, in other countries, that have ties to US wealth? Things like dismantling the NHS, establishing US style media as the dominant party in places like europe (murdoch family owned outlets getting larger pieces of the pie, and pushing sentiment to dismantle not for profit sources, like the BBC, and NPR/PBS, for example), far right parties, trump cocksuckers, putin cocksuckers, etc. have been on the rise for past ten plus years? Could it also be that people are growing increasingly disaffected with capitalism, and there are a lot of people lashing out, lacking understanding of what is causing life to be more difficult, and reaching out, in desperation, to anyone who sounds different from those who got us here, even if it should be obvious those people would likely make these specific issues worse? Is it that these things are also compounded with a growing desire, amongst the growing disproportionately wealthy set, to push all the bad aspects of societal structure, to hasten its collapse, and then swoop in to take over directly?
IMHO it is all of the factors in the previous paragraph, and others I haven’t bothered to bring up, and not so much the education system, at least not yet. Sorry for the word vomiting in this post.
You missed lead poisoning. I believe that’s epidemic in America…
Yes the lead is one of the many issues i didn’t get into, it is on the decline though. However, microplastics is the new lead. We know it affects the endocrine system, as of yet, though, we do not know how, or what the effects will be. Point being, blaming this behavior on education isn’t shooting at the right target, and there are so many targets.
Sure, but microplastics is a world wide issue. Lead, not so much. And here, we were discussing why America, in particular, is so goddam stupid.
I don’t think these factors are specifically unique to the US, some more than other. I think a lot of the environmental stuff you can see in many places, lead is not just a problem in the US, we are just more talkative about it.
https://www.cgdev.org/publication/combatting-hidden-epidemic-lead-poisoning-ideas-eu
Oh, definitively not. I’m not even 30, and I remember that NY dad’s car from when I was a kid needed a special additive to replace the lead, because that had been banned since he bought it
I think you’re misconstruing hate with stupidity. Many are more hateful than dumb.
hate and stupidity go hand in hand
We don’t have that on lock, dipshit. Look around you, the entire world is fucking up royally. We just happen to be one of the biggest shitshows going.
The fact that you treat Americans like a monolith shows that you’re dumb as fuck too.
Yeah, I dunno broseph. Lots of other first world countries have things like universal healthcare, paternity leave, significant and mandatory vacation, longer lifespans, generally higher quality of life and happiness, politics that aren’t straight up clown shows, more human rights.
You’ve successfully nailed an obvious generalization that there are stupid people everywhere, but the point is that stupidity is hyper-concentrated in the good ol’ US of A. As is evident.
No one was arguing that, stay on point. I KNOW and most democrats do about the fucking shitshow that is our government’s treatment of its people.
I’m devastated by my country and will die in feeling. So again, you’re an obvious idiot as well.
Also, bro, women exist online. I know, shocker.
Just accept it. We have free healthcare for 50 years.
Who TF is talking g about Healthcare? I love how so many people keep hitting that. MOST OF US KNOW YOU STUPID TWAT. However, millions and millions of us donating money, fighting, and marching can’t fight against the RICHEST MAN ON THE PLANET.
He’s coming for your country too. Can’t wait.
Because you think health not matter, it just prove 'murica short seeing.
oh boy, you really showed them!
The rest of the world too. Americans are just louder and prouder about stupidity.
That is objectively false. Other countries are far more educated.
Don’t mistake education for intelligence.
Trump has a degree from Wharton.
I wish I was in a place were I had no idea what was going on. I’m just twitching when I think about Republicans sending people to concentration camps with out charges or trial. That just means everyone is just sheep to be plucked. We are now just living on luck.
A Lemmy post about an article about a Reddit post. The internet feels more and more incestuous every day.
One mistake Temu is making is showing it as “Import fees”. That’s correct of course, but they should label it specifically as “Import tariffs” or “Tariffs”, so that it’s clear what this is. From the comments in the linked reddit threads, a lot of people just think they’re extra fees Temu is voluntarily putting on as retaliation, their brains still aren’t making the link between “import fees” and “trump’s tariffs on China”.
There are some brave businesses around here that have started posting signs.
“Due to tariffs, we’ve had to raise our prices.”
I’m in the Deep South, I bet by end of week I see a place charging “Fuck China” surcharges.
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what electrocuting Pokemon of other races until they submit isn’t racist enough for you?
Oh no! I guess they’ll have to get their cheap Chinese knock-off crap from Good American Sources.
Seriously though, even if the tariffs were reduced pre-loony-President levels tomorrow, no-one’s gonna trust that being permanent.
Actually with this really cheap Chinese stuff it will often still be cheaper than another source.
Oh? Well that’s ok then :)
145% isn’t even accurate because that’s just on the cost of the good. You then have to figure in retailer margin, seller margin etc. Most MSRPs will be 300% of what they were to keep those the same as before.
Not really. If they keep the same % based on what it costs them, then it should increase by the same amount.
If they instead get the same amount (which would effectively mean reduce their margins) the final cost would be a bit less.
Happy to be corrected with some numerical example.
So if you see any price increase greater than the tariff amount, it’s plain corporate greed.
BS If an item costs an extra $100 to put on a shelf, the retailer will still want to cover the costs of obtaining and spending that $100. No-one is going to use funds commercially, for free. WTF do you think retailers will be good keeping the same profit, numerically, whilst spending 145% more for it?
I always wonder what compels some people to make so little effort to understand what they are replying to, but make so much effort in proving they have no idea what they are replying to. Can you explain?
Obviously, you already know the answer.
Personally, I’ve always laughed at people who posit questions that they already know the answer to. Faux Intelligentsia.
Less if anything.
You buy something from China for $100. Add packing, staff costs and delivery and you sell it retail for say $200. A nice healthy profit margin.
Now you add the 145%, so it costs $245 from China. None of the rest of it will cost you more. Still an extra $100, for $345 total.
The retail customer pays an extra (345/200=) 72.5% instead.
It’s a lot, but not 145%.
So if your retail price goes up by 145% or more, they either weren’t making a lot of profit before, or they’re greedy bastards.
At the border you pay tariffs on all the costs up to that point, because they are all considered to be part of the value of the shipment as it crosses the border. So the price of good, plus the price of packaging (as far as it was packaged in China), plus the price of the freight shipping are tariffed together, which makes the result of the calculation a little worse, but fundamentally you’re right.
It depends on if it is something like a powder that comes raw in a 200 lb jar and you package it yourself into small containers.
Yes, then you only pay tariff for the powder, for the big jar, and the transpacific shipping of the big jar. That’s what I meant by “as far as it was packaged in China”.
Yes, I was agreeing with you. But especially to say that the bulk powder from China can be incredibly cheap, so for a lot of goods the 20$ bottle won’t be affected that much by tariffs even if they’re at 150%. It’s the type of thing with a lot of goods where you can look it up and the bulk amount is cheap but then you have to deal with an entire pallet of something you only need like 5 times ever. So buying the small relatively expensive bottle is still better, and with a wild guess it could only be like 1-4 dollars per bottle more.
I think “corporate greed” is a good explanation for pretty much all our problems.
Given the effect on the climate due to pollution, even rain or lack of can be explained by corporate greed
i hope every fucking 3rd party voter has to choose between rent and eating along with all the pridefully ignorant bumblefuck maga knuckledraggers
edit: LOL i love how the “vOtE 3rD pArTy!!!” chuds have literally nothing to say anymore–can only downvote.
“i DoNt WaNnA vOtE fOr GeNoCiDe!!!”
great job, fucko. now we have genocide in gaza AND in america
enjoy your fucking tariffs. and if you’re less than 100% white/male/straight/evangelical/republican, then enjoy all the things that go along with being “other” in a fascist state (hint: fucking genocide)
“I know I support the murder of you and your people. But I’m still going to need you to vote for me, so that I can preserve democracy and the economy. You may not live to see it, but the rest of us will really appreciate it.”
Gonna be honest with you. I care way more about the nation I live in and its democracy and my human rights and the human rights of the ones I love than I do about two nations on the other side of the planet continuing a fucking holy war that’s been going on all my life.
Apparently you do not.
P.S. Gaza is worse off under Trump. And he made it clear that would be the case before the election.
It’s only just begun. Wait until there are empty shelves at Wal-Mart. MAGA is going to have to work overtime to blame it on Biden.
It’s not hard work. They just blame Biden. When you’re lying, and everyone knows you’re lying, then there’s no reason to put effort into the lie. If that doesn’t catch on, they’ll blame someone else. Zelensky or Xi, or they can always Blame Canada.
Blame Canada you say? Oh my god…South Park Movie predicted this…
