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    Remember that the US nuked Japan in response. So I guess he’d be ok if Iran nuked the US in response?

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      They did not nuke Japan as a response to Pearl Harbor. It was a response to Japan stupidly ignoring the Potsdam Declaration when Germany had already been defeated.

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        How would you know what FDRs motivation was?

        “This is for Pearl Harbor, I’ve been waiting a long time for this”.

        It could have been his response to Pearl Harbor, so your correction is REJECTED

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          FDR was dead before the first nuclear test dentonation ever occured…

          So I can pretty conclusively say that dropping atomic bombs on Japan was not his response for pearl harbor.

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            What about zombie FDR. He probably made Trump attack Iran too

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          I’m going to nitpick a bit but FDR was president and made the decision to go to war with Japan over pearl harbor. Truman made the final decision to drop the nuclear weapons on Japan.

          Roosevelt had likely a plan since the Manhattan project was under his presidency but Truman inherited that.

          I think it’s mostly accepted that the USA did not nuke Japan specifically because of pearl harbor but more to force a rapid surrender. Japan was being extremely stubborn and the estimated loss of US forces was very high to continue the war.

          I also think FDR and his admin were motivated to pursue the Manhattan project in the first place due to the intel that the Nazis were also researching nuclear weapons. Nothing to do with Japan.

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            The exhibit at the Hiroshima Peace Museum argues that Truman dropped the bombs to end the war before the Soviets could invade and to avoid the partition of Japan.

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          I’d just like to take a moment to say how glad I am that most US presidents didn’t have social media to tell us their thoughts 24/7.

          It’s very possible that some of them were just as dumb as their 21st-century counterparts, but at least we don’t have the tweets to prove it.

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            There have been plenty of dumb in the esteemed position of POTUS, but I would like to make the brave claim that Trump is on an entirely different level intellectually compared to most, if not all, previous presidents.

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    Bro. The people coming to his defense is mind blowing. “That’s not what he meant!”, “He didn’t mean it in a racist way!” Shut the fuck up. He knows what he’s saying. He doesn’t care. The mental gymnastics his cult does for him is crazy. Just own up to it. He’s the racist pedophile Uncle who makes bad jokes at a family gathering that you wouldn’t leave your 10 year old with.

    It is what it is.

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      It’s the same shit they repeated on the campaign trail god I got tired of being told “it’s all hyperbole” from people I know didn’t even know what the word meant

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      I’m noticing more discourse on Lemmy. I’m not saying I want Lemmy to be a hive mind. But there’s clearly more and more comments seemingly just giving really “wrong side of history” takes.

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    Time for Japan to dump their 1 trillion in US bonds. That’ll be worse than Pearl Harbor for them.

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    Its crazy how well he represents the worst of america so well. Let me tell you folks no one does it better. The best people are all saying it. Top people in fact.

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      They tell me, sir… They come to me and say, mr president you do it the best. Embodying the most tremendous and bad stuff about the US. Nobody does it like you sir…

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      This is what we deserve for decades of celebrity worship, it is strangely appropriate that he is our President

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    “Oval Office stunned…”

    No, they weren’t. No one is surprised when Trump makes a complete ass of himself in front of other world leaders, it’s sort of his thing.

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      That headline surprised me too. Other than Takeuchi, why would anyone accustomed to being in the room be surprised that he would say something stupid?

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      I don’t work near the tangerine, I can’t stand listening to him, I wish I never had to hear his voice again.

      The only I didn’t expect in this was that he was in the room with the Japanese PM. Not even really a surprise, just didn’t know that was happening.

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      If anything, they’d be stunned that he didn’t just walk up and violate her in some way; Unlikely as that would be, given she’s a grown adult woman.

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    Americans must be so proud of their commander in chief. Well at least 40% still are. That’s all you need to know about the United States. In regards to the world, you lost all respect and trust that took 80 years to built. If any other foreign leader would use this language, he would be in a white padded cell within hours.

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      I actually think someone like trump could exist in more countries than we are willing to acknowledge. He plays terribly as someone else’s leader, but as your own leader, people seem to love the jingoism, bravado, and shamelessness in a lot of countries.

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        People like him do exist in other countries. But without a cult of personality they don’t really achieve very much, and no one can do cults like the US.

        The MEGA equivalents in other countries are actually having a bit of a problem because everyone can see a live demonstration of what their policies would actually look like, and no one likes it.

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          That’s basically what happened in Australia’s last election. The Liberals were trying to play up culture war shit & wanted to emulate DOGE, and it backfired hard. I was waiting to lock up a polling place for the night in Western Australia which is a couple of hours behind the eastern states, by the time they’d finished packing up the votes to be counted it was already so lopsided that even if every remaining vote was Liberal it wouldn’t have mattered.

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            yeah, calling bullshit on that oft repeated trope, it’s just Dutton was really on the nose, how do we know ? witness the rise and rise of One Nation

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          The MEGA equivalents in other countries are actually having a bit of a problem because everyone can see a live demonstration of what their policies would actually look like, and no one likes it.

          alas, a huge rise in this stupid in Australia.

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        Indeed they do but in other countries there are mechanisms in place to ensure you don’t get a cosplay dictator. In the Netherlands, Wilders was elected who is a Trump wannabe, but thanks for the proper democratic system in the Netherlands, he was severely limited in what crazy shit he wanted to do. Obviously the government collapsed and now they have a much more middle of the road government, which means more will get done. It is about checks and balances but Trump does whatever he wants and no one stops him.

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          Yeah the executive has been out of control here for decades, it just took trump to make that obvious.

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      Japan has been known to fire/jail their PMs so she might be pushed to do something like sell-off their US bonds.

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      His handlers would probably just claim that he meant “Why didn’t you warn POTUS?”

      But that doesn’t mean that every news outlet shouldn’t be pointing out that what he said, in addition to being extremely rude and undiplomatic, was utterly nonsensical.

      If you compare his performance now with videos of him from his first term, the decline is extremely obvious.