• CosmoNova@lemmy.world
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    7 hours ago

    Some people just hate the idea of cheap clean energy or a basket full of little puppies. It can‘t be helped.

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    I actually clicked on the article and looked for some sort of valid point with expectation… But there was none. They are just pissed that the solar panels exist there. What a bunch of cunts.

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    Natalie Oliver, a local business owner who became a Reform councillor last year, is also prepared to defy the police.

    Yep, saw that coming. Thick cunts.

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    PLEASE someone build an oil refinery there, or a coal mine, so these pathetic people will truly know the local cost of the energy they consume…

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    22 hours ago

    Oh yeah, all that terrible noise and pollution from solar. The sunbeams screaming and shitting each time they smack into a panel.

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      some people think that solar panels suck out solar energy from around like some kind of evil wizard depleting lifeforce and never heard about shadows

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            Yeah when you take a picture from space and all you see is clouds, that means that clouds actually block or redirect most of the light; doesn’t have to be all of it.

            Does somebody have data on how much sunlight reaches the ground when it’s cloudy? It’s 1361 W when not cloudy, at least that much i know.

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        16 hours ago

        I guess part of the article got lost amongst all the ads.

        Anyway, a solar substation wouldn’t be significantly different from one from any other power source, so that argument is just additional bullshit.

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          Like everyone else on Lemmy I recommend an ad blocker!

          Anyway, I’m sure that having read the article now you noticed that the couple in question are worried about the noise because they have an autistic daughter and moved there to get away from noise, which she’s especially sensitive to.

          I’m not sure how it’s relevant that a substation from any other source wouldn’t be worse is relevant? If the panels weren’t behind their house then the substation wouldn’t be there either.

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            Honestly, seems like they could have spent less on sound insulation, but maybe it’s cheap to move in the UK.

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              Can you sound insulate a garden?

              Again, I think if you read the article you’ll understand their issues a lot better.

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    What the article completely misses to mention is that solar companies will obviously pay taxes which is a lot of money for the communities where these projects are built.

    Like, every community wants to have big companies building solar parks in their area sothat they get a lot of extra money in taxes. The tax money can be a big help to rural communities. That’s what people need to talk more about.

    It’s sad to see the biggest argument to convince people that solar in their vicinity is a good thing unused. Why did the writers of the article not talk about it? Why were they unwilling to take effective action by asking the right questions? Why is the “but how do you not want extra tax money for your local school project” question not asked to everybody who was interviewed?

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      21 hours ago

      Waste to energy conversion plant, ie a factory that burns rubbish.

      Interestingly this exact thing is now happening in Poole in Dorset where locals successfully opposed an offshore wind farm nearby but have since failed in blocking a waste furnace right next door.

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        That would be a nice option too. Too bad those are not nearly as awful as oil/gas infra. They don’t even smell that badly.

        My dad used to work in one, got to visit it a few times. Pretty interesting what people consider as “general rubbish”… Everything from false teeth to propane tanks… Luckily the system has a big magnet that pulls that shit out of there

  • Papierkorb@feddit.org
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    21 hours ago

    But if we turn the sun light into electricity the planet will cool down and turn into an ice block!

    /s

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    Remind these racist idiots that Chinese went all on solar and aren’t affected as much by oil supply problems, and you wouldn’t like to be worse than them, right,

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      If they cared so much, they should’ve been doing what they can to limit emissions for themselves, kids, and grandkids, but no, too damned selfish.

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      Did you read the article?

      One of the new plants being built in this area, Tillbridge, is the largest solar development to be granted planning permission so far. The project will cover approximately 1,400 hectares (3,460 acres), equivalent to 2,000 football pitches.

      That’s absolutely enormous!

      They are covering the area with panels because there is an existing grid connection from an old power station nearby that they can re-use. Makes sense from an engineering perspective but it’s a shocking planning decision, it’s not like a few fields of solar in the middle of lots of normal fields, people who live there now will be surrounded by them.

      It really seems like bad policy to me, it turns something that should be a positive symbol that you could feel proud of as a local, into something that will feel really oppressive.

      You’ve called these people racist, doubtless some are but I expect the majority are just desperate and only support reform because the alternatives aren’t representing them well on this issue.

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        What’s the alternative? We should make building renewables easier, not add obstacles because “looking at panels feels oppressive”. Relying on fossil fuels is much, much worse for the locals.

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          Also literally a billion times more oppressive… Like… We’re about to fight world war 3 over it, and it’s being pulled out of the ground in Saudi by slave labour

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          Small modular reactors? For the UK in particular these are a good option as we use the same tech in nuclear subs.

          Or if you want to do solar specifically, lots of smaller scale solar developments that don’t take over an entire area (like 4 fields of solar in the middle of lots of normal fields, so you can avoid it or walk around it and it doesn’t create an enormous “no go” zone next to a rural village.

          I don’t think anyone in this thread is really acknowledging the scale of this development, it’s a 1400 hectare site of which 900ha is panels. If you made that into a square it would he 3km x 3km of panels!

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            Small modular reactors

            The ones that Rolls Royce have been lying about “developing” (with taxpayer money) for years now and are still not actually on the market and have no firm ETA?

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              Nono, the ones where your local terrorists get material for dirty bombs from.

              In all seriousness, maybe ten years ago people ™ weht crazy about the idea of crashing a hijacked plane into a NPP and with the advent of capable drones they want to hand out targets like crazy. So your local steel mill can get plenty cheap electricity.

              You know, those folks who had several 100kg pure copper stolen can surely be trusted handling, storing and protecting nuclear fuel on their premises.

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        good, dare i say, based even. you better start figuring out where to put these panels, because roofs and parking lots won’t be enough (maybe taking into account soil type and how it is already used)