• MushuChupacabra@piefed.world
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      21 hours ago

      Because the Republicans are going to get their asses handed to them during the next midterm elections.

      Both Parties Are The Same rhetoric gets pumped out by the right, as a part of their broader voter suppression strategy.

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          By jerking off about something Hillary said nearly 20 years ago?

          Yes I’m sure we’ll gain much insight from discussing how much we all hate the Clintons again.

          Edit: that is a crazy instadownvote — sus

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              No, just like I won’t be forgiving or forgetting your inability to debate in good faith.

              If you think jerking yourself off over a widely hated woman is doing anything productive you’re a muppet.

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                Since you are the one who defend her. It is you who is jerking off to her.

                I am discussing in good faith. I want to see your consistancy . You proved you are inconsistant

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                  You’re talking to me about consistency when you’ve immediately pivoted away from a totally irrelevant soundbyte captured 20 years ago?

                  This is a joke, you’re illiterate or ragebaiting.

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      Because we should never forget warmongers. She may decide to run again

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        “…oh yeah? Well Hillary bla-bla-bla and Biden bla-bla-bla, how about them apples?”

        It’s ridiculous to see the mental gymnastics of the cult members at play. All while we’re still dealing with the aftermath of the two wars George W. Bush started, while he and his friends were placing some heavy investments in Halliburton and Blackwater. And coincidentally, the stock market is making leaps and bounds nowadays. Wonder who have been calling their brokers lately.

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          The only cultist here is you. Both parties you have is the usa are cults. Unlike you, I do not forget war criminals from both side

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              Even worse. You are not american yet you still worship american war criminals. Hilary support wars, trump support wars so they those two war criminals that are equally bad. I did not say every democrats is as bad as every republicans

              I am not american either I still call for every single goddamn war criminal from both parties to rot in jail including genocide Trump unlike you defending Hilary like she is your dominatrix

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    Why is an ancient quote by a failed presidential candidate that was made 8 fucking years before her campaign being posted anywhere outside of a history sub? Why don’t you post complaints about her email server too?

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      Progressives are agianst war criminals.You can report my post, let see if do not fit in the community

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        Progressives should be against trolling about irrelevant ancient trivia too, yet you posted it anyway.

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          I am not trolling. Just because you hate that I posted a video about a warmonger, it doesn’t mean I am trolling. If the post was irrelevant, the admin would have removed my post and comments rather than letting people attack me for it.

          You are rage baiting

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          She voted for the war in Iraq and she was in the administration when the usa intervened in Libya. She is a war criminal whatever you deny it or not. She backed up all recent american imperialist interventions.

          If the community had an iq test , you would be the one not allowed here

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    I mean there are reasons she lost the 2016 election, part of it was the progressive wing staying home, this is pertinent from that lens, but I’m not sure what else?

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      I wouldn’t project it into a progressive lens, at least not first.

      You need to contextualize the moment Hillary’ and the country are in 2008-2016. There had been an anti-war movement as soon as the war plans were announced, but it was dutifully ignored by corporate media, in accordance with American tradition. The American economy was being swept by the peak of the “great-recession”, occupy wall street happens around this time. But that energy really doesn’t get funneled into electoral politics until much later. It was grass-roots, outside power almost exclusively in the context of that time. Many of the leftist orgs that are now considered passe would have been avant-garde in that time (code pink etc). And keep in mind, Hillary was an opponent of Obama. She lost an election, and badly, speaking like this.

      Political Progressivism as we understand it today doesn’t really become a thing in the US until Bernie taps into that occupy wall street energy (really, as a direct effect of the both hope given to, and subsequent failure of, the Obama administration) and funnels it into electoral politics.

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        Disagree, I think you have your timeline mixed up.

        The 2016 election occurred well after Occupy Wallstreet, and Bernie Sanders and the progressive wing in the democrats felt snubbed in 2016, which is why many of them stayed home.

        I know this because I was one of them, and I will have to live with that decision for the rest of my life.

        Edit: I am not realizing you might be referring to the 2008 primary election, I’m talking about the 2016 presidential election here and in my original comment. Contextually it (your response) makes sense based on the date of the video, so I get your point, but not what I was talking about.

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          re edit:

          Yeah I’m talking about her in the 2007/8/9 time period. Just that a progressive or even vaguely left win element in electoral hadn’t manifested politically. Those ideas and political power were 100% outside power at the time. So its a bit anachronistic to use the term progressive because in the 2008 time period when this was said we really didn’t neccessarily use that word. At the time might use the term “anti-war” for the same basket of policies. That period was also just after the peak of the neo-cons where the litmus test among Democrats was being “anti-war”, and obviously, Hillary failed that.

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      She may decide to run again. We should never forget warmongers positions . There is also the rhetoric that genocide Trump was the only one who was stupid enough to start a war of agression on Iran

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        I would be dumbfounded if she managed to place well in a primary election, people are also allowed to evolve their views.

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          The thing is Hillary never evolve . Someone may be wrong about one American intervention but to initially openly support all the American interventions then claims to regret it , that person simply become a pathological liar and a hypocrite

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            Are you from the United States? I don’t mean this any kind of way besides in the United States the Clintons (H and W) are both dead and buried, their most recent discussion was about Bill’s ties to Eppstein.

            They aren’t going anywhere politically anytime soon.

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                I hear your point friend, I think you can say that about a lot of people in US politics.