First line of the article says he is supposed to protect New Yorkers. That is not true. Police have successfully lobbied for decades and have absolutely no mandate to protect anyone but themselves. They loudly and clearly stated that their job specifically exists to enforce the status quo and to bulldoze through anyone in the way. They don’t want to help anyone. They don’t want to protect anyone. It’s in their job description and their training not to.
It’s in their job description and their training not to.
Chat, is this true?
Warren v. District of Columbia “is a District of Columbia Court of Appeals case that held that the police do not owe a specific duty to provide police services to specific citizens based on the public duty doctrine.” And Castle Rock v. Gonzales, is a United States Supreme Court case in which the Court ruled, 7–2, that a town and its police department could not be sued under 42 U.S.C. § 1983 for refusing to enforce a restraining order, even though the refusal led to the murders of a woman’s three children by her estranged husband.
That doesn’t answer their question
Receiving 547 fines in the mail over 4 years means he’s treating speeding as a paid subscription. Strange that they don’t cancel his driving licence. In Canada, we have points, so this wouldn’t stand. I don’t think we could have even 5 tickets in 1 year without losing our licence.
Even in Canada, tickets from traffic cameras don’t cost points. The vehicle owner is responsible for paying the fines, but without being able to prove that the owner was the one driving they can’t add demerits.
License points are a thing in some US states too
Don’t normalize automated driving enforcement, ALPRs and police surveillance tech. I get the spirit of this story that the watchers should be held accountable, but when the electric eye is on us we’re all criminals. The surveillance state needs to die
If I was American, I would be a lot more than mildly infuriated about the pedocratic police state that is the US. But I am not American, so mildy infuriated fits perfectly for me I guess.
As an (US)American, I wake up every morning screaming into the Void.
Then the Void requests a subscription fee.
I’m not legally allowed to sleep until I’ve paid the Void, one way or another.
I wake up every morning thanking whatever god wants to listen that I wasn’t born American.
truck drivers are synonymous with speeding and drunk driving, and usually driven by meatheads.
It’s specifically Ram truck drivers for the drunk driving part, most DUIs of any make and model by a long shot.
2 times each 5 days over 4 years. How come he still has a license?
That and… How do you afford these expenses? Also cop?
Cop
An average full size truck sits at 6’. This short king is the height of a 12 year old
Edit: 6’ not 6"
- 6’
Oh, I thought it was just literally every large white pickup truck.
Hopefully one day a fully loaded semi truck explains to him the error of his ways.
I don’t wish that on the semi driver. They don’t get paid enough to have therapy for the kind of trauma you get from turning another person into paste. And also probably losing their CDL over it.
Perfect example of policing in America. Their primary mission as a force is to protect themselves at all costs just like any other gang or criminal organization.
Fun fact! The police are the largest gang of armed robbers in the country, collectively stealing more money than all other armed robberies and burglaries combined, and it’s totally legal for them
Civil asset forfeiture is one of those things where when you hear about it your first reaction is that it must be some fringe conspiracy theory because there’s no way the police could get away with something like that, right? But no, it really is that bad and it’s done completely in the open. Cops can just steal your shit out of “suspicion” and the process of getting it back is deliberately labyrinthine and difficult.
Can you prove your inherited grandmother’s engagement ring actually belongs to you? Receipt please! Oh you don’t have one. It’s ours to auction off now!
And the father of civil asset forfeiture was DNC centrist darling and father of the Israeli genocide of Palestinians himself, Joe racist-dipshit biden, who belongs in prison along with trump and many other american politicians.
https://mises.org/mises-wire/joe-biden-father-drug-wars-asset-forfeiture-program
Well that’s sadly educational. Thanks for the info.
wild that something this NYC specific is up top. this dude is in for it, i think
Police get away with murder, the most this cop is in for is high fives from his fellow piggies.
I’m curious to know how many crashes they’ve caused
We could not determine whether Giovansanti has ever harmed someone by speeding. But the circumstantial evidence is not reassuring: The right side of his truck is visibly damaged, and he refused to answer a straightforward question about his collision history.
If it was his car being damaged while parked it would be the left side, so probably not that.
Have you never parked on a one-way? Or literally anywhere other than the right shoulder of a road? That said, it’s literally unbelievable this person still has a license (until you learn they are a fascist pig)
Tell me again how traffic cameras make us safer and we can totally trust them to be applied objectively for public safety and no other purpose?
Maybe in US…
From where I am, they are 100% slowing everyone down. In fact, so much that I am getting annoyed by that. Thing is, people will go 60 in 50 zone, then see a camera sign, slow down to fucking 40, roll pass it and then pedal to the metal back to 60.
Easy optional solution how to make people actually slow down on the camera: make fine indexed. If they earn a ton, they get a huge ass fine. Say 5% of a monthly income. Stacks to 50% if they are a serial rule breaker. That way not many will speedup.
They aren’t for safety…they are totally for revenue.
With regards to school zones, specifically, if they cared about safety, they would be putting in mechanisms to slow traffic naturally. Raised crosswalks. Rotaries. Narrower lanes. Crossing guards.
They don’t put any of those in.
A couple towns over from me, they just put a brand new highschool right on the intersection of two major state highways, about 1/4 mile from the interstate. If they cared about the kids, they’ve put the school in a less busy area to begin with.
But instead, they demo’d an old pedestrian bridge that was keeping kids off the road for crossing, and set up a speed cam and issuing tickets in the spring before the school even opened.
And of course the school zone creates a bottleneck for people exiting the highway in rush hour, with ripple effects well down the freeway.
Fucking assholes.
But at least Theil gets paid. Most of the money doesn’t even go back to the city. What a ducking ripoff.
Tear them all down.
Just because they are corrupt cops above the law dosen’t mean that speed cameras dosen’t work. Hidden cameras that are only there to “catch” speeders are pretty stupid, but cameras with warning about their proximity work very well to slow down drivers before conflict points
Not every mechanism of society needs to be built around fear of punishment. In fact, i would say that none should be in and ideal society. There are numerous ways to not instill fear in people every second of every day. It even would make a healthier society if people didn’t live in perpetual fear of the state.
A camera says nothing about punishment and everything about social accountability. Some people simply need a reminder or are new to an area as well.
Social accountability is a euphemism for punishment. Someone is engaging in a behavior that is discouraged and so when they do that something is done to them that they don’t want to happen. In this case a camera simply automates fining people.
People who need a reminder or are new to an area especially benefit from better road design or cheaper alternatives (where I live some residential streets have concrete planters that make the road wind and force you to slow down). For a person new to an area especially, the speed camera functionally serves as an expensive toll for driving the speed the road is designed for, but one you receive in the mail a few weeks later.
Good speed reduction should make speeding look and feel reckless ro everyone, including someone who’s never been there before and didn’t see the speed limit. Good design is intuitive.
I don’t agree that its possible to make everyone feel personally at risk when speeding.
If people want to be around other people then social accountability is required. Whether you want to call it punishment or not, we have to have ways to signal to each other what we find okay and what we don’t. I dont agree with deceptive setups designed to maximize income for a city, so I do agree with most of what you are saying, I just think ultimately punishment needs to be there for some people.
You can make it so reasonable drivers feel the safe speed to drive is the speed you want them driving.
Ultimately speed cameras are surveillance for civil infractions, which I disapprove of, and they’re popular because they can function as revenue generation.
I don’t disapprove of punishment for those engaging in reckless driving, but I’ve seen so many places where speed limits and fines are treated as the end all be all of traffic enforcement rather than the final step.
If the goal is to reduce speeding, road design plays more of a factor more than cameras.
A fine means that it’s a revenue grab.
That’s correct, but cameras still work and are cheaper/easier to install than rebuilding the streets.
But they’re not a solution to poor road planning. It’s like putting a bandaid on a gaping wound.
I’m surprised no one has challenged you on this. (I agree with your point, but people do tend to defend cameras zealously)
Wait, I’m a zealous camera defender, what am I missing?
The one they put up temporarily by my kid’s school noticeably calmed traffic near it (myself included—I’m not perfect).
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