Why shouldn’t we point out shameless grifting? She’s a Canadian who pumps out comics about American politics. And these comics are so popular they’re damn near unavoidable.
Downvote and move on.
The same applies to you. People are annoyed that this blatant strategy is succeeding while more deserving artist struggle to make it. You don’t like people criticizing Pizzacake for doing so. We’re all expressing opinions on a forum, nothing wrong with that.
Residents of other countries criticising American politics is entirely acceptable, given their massive influence on the global stage. My fucking fuel prices are obscene at the moment, and that’s a direct result of the current regime’s arrogance and incompetence. And my gripe is absolutely trivial compared to many other less fortunate recipients of US foreign policy.
I’ll take a simple protest comic over the latest bullshit headline coming from that shithole country every day of the week.
I agree, other people can and should criticize America. But that’s all she does. She doesn’t make any comics about Canadian politics, presumably because they don’t get the same traction. It’s a grift. Which might be fine if her comics were of good quality. But most of them read like this:
Surely there are more clever ways to mock Trump/Elon/MAGA, etc. It would be great if we stopped supporting slop just because we agree with the message.
But that’s all she does. She doesn’t make any comics about Canadian politics, presumably because they don’t get the same traction. It’s a grift.
So… The comic that is posted for this comment chain is about American politics? A kid dressing up in a dress and his mom suggesting a different colour… How is that about American politics?
This argument is blatantly fallacious. If Alex Jones thinks the government is filled with pedophiles, the fact that he’s an idiot doesn’t make him wrong on that point: it damn sure doesn’t make everyone who agrees with Alex wrong. This is a guilty by association fallacy, a type of ad hominem.
The fact that people are upvoting your ad hominem because it confirms their previously held opinion is, ironically, the exact complaint I had about Pizzacake comics. No one cares about whether it’s a good argument/comic, they will upvote regardless.
In which case I’m wasting my time. These comments are just a popularity contest for opinions, no one cares about the substance.
Okay, so we should be distrustful of pizzacake in general because her work is popular and relevant to a country she lives 75 miles away from. And this is not fallacious.
But when it comes to literal self proclaimed white supremacists who makes comics where the punchline is “n____”, we have to give each and every argument they make the benefit of the doubt because ultimately someone’s credibility in general cannot ever be used to judge their stance on individual topics?
Edit: so bro posts open and self admitted nazi propaganda and instantly blocks anyone who thinks that isn’t totally irrelevant. Curious
My criticism of Pizzacake stands independently of who agrees with me. So if you attempt to say that I am wrong because of other people, that is a guilt by association fallacy. Downvote all you want, it’s just a poor argument.
You are free to point out that this other person is problematic; if what you say is true, then you are correct in doing so. Again, this has no bearing on the point above.
We could substitute the critical comic with many others. Do you think everyone who criticizes Pizzacake is a Nazi? This is not an uncommon view. Maybe you can evaluate the substance of the claim (i.e., Pizzacake comics are lazy) without appealing to ad hominem responses?
Having made these distinctions the supposed inconsistency vanishes. This is not the “gotcha” moment you think it is.
But at this point I suspect people are just dogpiling. Anything I write will be downvoted, this is not a reasoned debate. Since Lemmy doesn’t turn off reply notifications for individual comments, I have to block you. I’m open to other points of view but doubling down on fallacious arguments is not arguing in good faith.
Ultimately you’re attacking a person who puts out content supporting human rights, which is why the best criticism you could muster was from a neo nazi.
Why shouldn’t we point out shameless grifting? She’s a Canadian who pumps out comics about American politics. And these comics are so popular they’re damn near unavoidable.
The same applies to you. People are annoyed that this blatant strategy is succeeding while more deserving artist struggle to make it. You don’t like people criticizing Pizzacake for doing so. We’re all expressing opinions on a forum, nothing wrong with that.
Who are some struggling artists I can follow to help balance that out?
Yeah, this is a much more productive way to equal the playing field than to tear an artist down
Residents of other countries criticising American politics is entirely acceptable, given their massive influence on the global stage. My fucking fuel prices are obscene at the moment, and that’s a direct result of the current regime’s arrogance and incompetence. And my gripe is absolutely trivial compared to many other less fortunate recipients of US foreign policy.
I’ll take a simple protest comic over the latest bullshit headline coming from that shithole country every day of the week.
It’s a global passtime.
I agree, other people can and should criticize America. But that’s all she does. She doesn’t make any comics about Canadian politics, presumably because they don’t get the same traction. It’s a grift. Which might be fine if her comics were of good quality. But most of them read like this:
Surely there are more clever ways to mock Trump/Elon/MAGA, etc. It would be great if we stopped supporting slop just because we agree with the message.
So… The comic that is posted for this comment chain is about American politics? A kid dressing up in a dress and his mom suggesting a different colour… How is that about American politics?
So like… Do trans people not exist outside the US? The comic the OP posted didn’t mention the US.
This Noel de le Pen sure has an interesting body of work.
https://t.me/s/noellepen
Even has a comic showing an interracial couple where a black man is depicted as a gorilla.
Finding common cause with them should tell you something about your stance.
X person sucks so all they say is automatically false?
This argument is blatantly fallacious. If Alex Jones thinks the government is filled with pedophiles, the fact that he’s an idiot doesn’t make him wrong on that point: it damn sure doesn’t make everyone who agrees with Alex wrong. This is a guilty by association fallacy, a type of ad hominem.
The fact that people are upvoting your ad hominem because it confirms their previously held opinion is, ironically, the exact complaint I had about Pizzacake comics. No one cares about whether it’s a good argument/comic, they will upvote regardless.
In which case I’m wasting my time. These comments are just a popularity contest for opinions, no one cares about the substance.
Okay, so we should be distrustful of pizzacake in general because her work is popular and relevant to a country she lives 75 miles away from. And this is not fallacious.
But when it comes to literal self proclaimed white supremacists who makes comics where the punchline is “n____”, we have to give each and every argument they make the benefit of the doubt because ultimately someone’s credibility in general cannot ever be used to judge their stance on individual topics?
Edit: so bro posts open and self admitted nazi propaganda and instantly blocks anyone who thinks that isn’t totally irrelevant. Curious
My criticism of Pizzacake stands independently of who agrees with me. So if you attempt to say that I am wrong because of other people, that is a guilt by association fallacy. Downvote all you want, it’s just a poor argument.
You are free to point out that this other person is problematic; if what you say is true, then you are correct in doing so. Again, this has no bearing on the point above.
We could substitute the critical comic with many others. Do you think everyone who criticizes Pizzacake is a Nazi? This is not an uncommon view. Maybe you can evaluate the substance of the claim (i.e., Pizzacake comics are lazy) without appealing to ad hominem responses?
Having made these distinctions the supposed inconsistency vanishes. This is not the “gotcha” moment you think it is.
But at this point I suspect people are just dogpiling. Anything I write will be downvoted, this is not a reasoned debate. Since Lemmy doesn’t turn off reply notifications for individual comments, I have to block you. I’m open to other points of view but doubling down on fallacious arguments is not arguing in good faith.
Ultimately you’re attacking a person who puts out content supporting human rights, which is why the best criticism you could muster was from a neo nazi.
Sure, she’s got a niche. There’s plenty of other satire available if you’re not a fan. If it’s a grift, it’s not exactly harmful.
I’ve watched plenty of absolutely basic comedians entertain a crowd in my time, but I don’t wish they were all Stewart Lee.
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oh no that one actually hits the nail on the head. That’s exactly how these read.
Shitting on America is a honorable thing to do no matter the reason.
Shameless grifting? For being Canadian while doing US politics? Pretty sure the internet is full of those.
Go be a negative Nancy somewhere else dude. Cheer up.