I’m in recovery and ever commercial is “the bold refreshing taste of uncle berry lemon twist vodka. Having a bad day? Drink this. You know you want to. Drink it Michael! please drink responably
Every ad portrays drinking as a party, and your in a pool throwing a beach ball with your friends, and your ex Chrissy finally admits she was wrong. It’s an unrealistically positive. If you drink Tito’s your father in law will finally grow close to you. It’s not Christmas without even Williams egg nog!
There is no safe amount of alcohol to drink. It is like cigarettes, entirely bad for you.
I’m not saying don’t sell it but why is every add for booze being blasted every. Especially to me because the algorithm knows I’m an alcoholic.
How is that legal?
Please drink responsibly? You’re aiming your ads at alcoholics primarily.
It’s like advertising morphine on skid row. You know what you’re doing.
Edit: for the people saying I’m America centric. I have a Texas education.what the hell is the US? Nothing is beyond our boarders. We are the only land mass. Ill add a picture in the comments.
For the people who happily explained what it’s like in thier country. Makes me feel less crazy for pointing out the problem!
I don’t even see ads for drinking online, that’s how banned they are in my country.
In Russia, alcohol ads are banned. So, beer ads take all the air, rolling their usual, and adding a small fast “nonalcoholic” at the end for their obscure nonalcolohic version no one cares about.
So, effectively, advertising your beer is legal as long as you have a nonalcoholic version.
Damn They manage to weasel around the law anyway.
The proof that there is only Texas as promised.
(For those that didn’t see the comments about assuming everyone is American. This explains the Texas education system.
Btw no one in Texas calls it “the gulf of America “ we thinks that’s stupid to.
That’s… not at all where the asteroid belt is. This tracks for Texas hahahaha
I was waiting so long for someone to say that. I had a joke prepared for it but I forgot now.
Thank i like when people notice the subtle jokes.
I thought of putting Pluto in there too.
And Texas is bigger than Jupiter lol as it should be lol.
who tf is we?
It’s the Royal we
I spend a lot of time in Ireland and tbh I can’t remember the last time I saw an ad for regular alcoholic drinks like beers and whiskeys… However a lot of these companies skirt around rules, at least here at the moment, by making ads about non alcoholic versions instead. So you see a lot of Guinness 0.0 and Heineken 0.0 etc.
Tbh even that should banned at this stage too.
What’s worse though is gambling advertising. I fucking hate that shit so much. Its popularity preys on desperate people and further drives the K shaped economy we are seeing nowadays. Its so fucked up.
Gambling ads and sponsorships are crippling the youth. I know lads coming out of school in debt to loads of people to be down the bookies.
The zero ads are a workaround but I wouldnt be so annoyed if they were a different price at the tap!
I would miss the guiness ads but they aren’t even Irish anymore so fuck em.
I have a feeling Australia feels the same about fosters beer now too.
I hear its not really a thing there, Guinness is huge here still. Its overpriced and sales go abroad. The two biggest competitors are bought out by a different oarent company too.
We don’t, alcohol adverts are just as illegal as tobacco. Of course; that might not be the case everywhere on the planet :P
I appreciate you being friendly with it. I just wasn’t thinking about savages.
Z”that’s a joke by the way.
Our education is American centric. “We arrived to this empty land and these hundreds of tribes had a stick up for here butt so we generously held lad on thier behalf in a trust they have no control over. There were treaties.‘don’t look them up but it wasntotallynlegit broh
Theres actually a joke here “we learn geography based on what war we’re in”
If I moved to your country you probably list me as mentally disabled “the usSr can’t hurt you it been gone-
“WE NEED THIRTY NUCLEAR LAND MINES!”
I appreciate you taking it easy on me
That’s a pretty distasteful and unfunny joke, by the way.
Comedy is how I cope with things. That and drinking. They don’t always combine well.
All jokes are dark. There is no joke that doesn’t Involve pain. Jokes are the way we address Hard realities in a safe way.
That has absolutely nothing to do with the “joke” being bad, and that had no humour in it at all. You were just being a dick. Granted, there’s a fine line between “dark” humour and being a dick, but you most certainly crossed it.
That’s where you are completely wrong
“Joke” doesn’t need to be in quotes. It’s not an opinion or grey area. If something is told as a joke it is a joke.
Your opinion of the joke doesn’t stop it from being a joke. Buy a dictionary .
“No humor at all “ it was sarcastic ghoulish humor by definition. It’s a specific classification
Dark humor doesn’t need to be in quotes all humor is dark humor. That’s what humor is.
You clearly have opinions if I want to hear them I’ll ask for them. Until then just be about your way.
You’re very confused buddy. If you post crappy “jokes” on the internet, be prepared to receive feedback on them. Hopefully next time you’ll actually have something funny to say. Otherwise, “just be about your way”.
OP is talking about the US
Weird, I see no mention of this “US”, how are we supposed to know?
That big ol brain of yours
Aka “the default place”.
US allows all drugs to be advertised. Ask your doctor if Martinis are right for you.
That’s not true
Direct to Consumer drug advertising is 100% legal in the USA, unlike most countries. WTF…it’s most of late night TV, selling meds to Boomers.
Only legal in USA and New Zealand.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct-to-consumer_advertising
It took decades of fighting to get smoking banned, and if everyone and their uncle didn’t have a parent dying of lung cancer, it probably wouldn’t have happened.
People have smoked for pretty much all of human history and I don’t think it’s going to stop anytime soon.
Does this include vaping though? The kids are just getting their nicotine in a different form now
Vaping is not as big as pouches of nicotine promoted by cunts.
That’s still about about a billion tobacco smokers. And cannabis smoking and vaping are on the rise.
r/USdefaultism
is what I’d say if this were reddit lol
Canada has aboot 40 million people, the UK has about 70 million, Australia has 30 million, and New Zealand (5 million) is basically a rounding error. Since the US has over 300 million people, other English speakers tend to migrate to primarily US platforms.
What I find most interesting about these statistics is the difference in population density between the UK and the USA. Although the US is ~40 times larger, it only contains 7x more people.
I want to add I also get negative comments when I do say “I’m American” to preface something.
It’s really lose/lose but I don’t blame them. America has been pissing a lot of people off lately. Including Americans. Even the trumpets are looking at him like “wtf are you doing”
The various native tribes here have had to band together because we keep deporting NATIVE AMERICANS!
Oh interesting side note when my American friends travel they say they are Canadian because they are embarrassed.
What the hell is the US. I know every county in Texas. Got a cousin and pig in each one. Never heard of none of that “us” business.
I went to the shiny-est college in the planet (which is Texas) and I saw a black man there! He was delivering groceries but almost looked him in the eye. I’m a progressytives!”
Edit: just to be clear I wasn’t naming two animals at my farm. Each farm has a pig who is my cousin. Just wanted to make that very clear. I have cousin pigs
2nd edit: and sometime I lie with them as bride and groom.
It’s legal in Texas as long as a gun is involved
Cigarette companies themselves actually lobbied for cigarette commercials to be banned. For more information, look up knowing better cigarettes on YouTube since I’ll have to write an essay to explain why and he puts it way better than I can
I’m not saying I don’t believe you. But is saying if cigarettes wanted to stop advertising they didn’t need approval.
So op advertising.
To try to oversimplify: there was some law from the Clinton administration that said for X amount of ads for cigarettes, information for what cigarettes do to you must be aired as well (in the form of an ad). So, to kill 2 birds with one stone, they lobbyed and successfully got cigarette ads banned. This served to try and suppress potential competition outside of the big name brands and information for what cigarettes actually do to you. So, it was a 4D chess move done by the big cigarette companies collaborating with each other. I hope that makes sense
all advertisement is bad. best to avoid all of it. use the fediverse, don’t use commercial internet platforms.
How exactly are new companies supposed to find clients if all advertising is bad?
there should obviously be indexes which tell you what stuff exists. stuff like amazon where you search for “desk” and it shows you the 10 desk providers that can be delivered to your location.
It is always so weird traveling outside of Norway and see commercials for alcohol.
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basically alcohol gets a pass because its a drug that has been in use since the stone age. Im a big “victimless” crimes person and I would like to see much legalized but I would like them all put into a category where its allowed at home or at licensed establishments and advertising is limited to private residences or at businesses that are in the category. I would restrict the signage for the businesses to. So the brothel, race track, casino, dispensiary, liquor store would look rather non descript from the outside but all would have controlled entry to only allow adults and inside it would likely be filled with ads for other establishments.
I agree with everything. I want to add, a lot of drugs have been used since the stone ages. Animals, not just humans, tend to use drugs fairly commonly. It’s only a modern thing to think they’re purely bad.
With that said, modern drugs often remove them from their cultural context, and are in higher purities and larger quantities than are naturally available. Chewing on a coca leaf is a lot different than doing cocaine, even though they’re largely the same thing (though the coca leaf has a lot of stuff that’s removed in processing to make cocaine). Cultures where it’s common, it doesn’t cause nearly the same issues as cocaine does in other places, because they don’t have the same culture around it and are sometimes getting a lot more.
I agree though; people should be allowed to do what they want. The government shouldn’t be deciding it for them, and neither should advertising. They should be free from pressure either way to decide what they want to put into their body.
yeah its kinda wild that cocaine was in coke but and there is nothing about mass withdrawls when it was taken out. It was a small amount and ingested though and who knows how it was obtained form the leaf at that time. I had a convo with an indian coworker around this topic and they mentioned their grandma chewing something that was like the basis of opium and it was just normal back then.
Coca Cola actually had a reasonably large amount in it. I watched this video recently, which is why I thought of coca. It’s a very interesting look into a culture I knew little to nothing of. https://youtu.be/n2ZHXTiM9j0
There’s a whole lot of victims of alcohol tho
yeah and a whole lot of casual users. kinda the same with it all but it does vary and obvious some are so powerful they have been used to make slaves. its like any self destructive behaviour though. hard to draw the line for other people without taking away self determination.
I agree with all that but is lime to see a tax on it to fund treatment centers.
Not sure where you live, but I think basically every state in the USA has an extra tax on alcohol.
Look up “sin tax”
I don’t think much, or any, of that is going to recovery programs though.
oh yeah. I actually think everything should have at least a small transaction tax like 1% but thinks that are bad for you do a bit more. Man would day trading come down if that was the case.
Maybe day trading isn’t a very good thing. These VCs are gutting good business to make profit for one quarter and bouncing. Maybe the stock market should be regulated in some way.
That’s how dispensaries in IL already are.
I see billboards for them all the time. the advertising is certainly not restricted. it and the casinos is the thing that got me. I like the legalization but hate the advertising.
Same could be said about onlyfans tbh
Ok yeah billboards. I forgot about those. Still, the storefronts I’m aware of are pretty neutral.
yeah but this should be the case with liquor stores as well. So basically the only way you should see an ad for any of the other adult activity is by being at one of the adult activities. as an aside though illinois implementation like a lot of illinois is sorta minimal. Really annoyed at the grow restrictions. Sorta hope it gets improved once they can’t suck so much revenue form the surrounding states.
Srsly. Bring back cigarette ads
Bit of a shot in the dark, but seems like cigarette companies have lied in front of congress / courts saying cigarettes are healthy / not bad for you and have been caught red handed in their lies.
Big alcohol hasn’t ever done anything that egregious. Everyone knows its not exactly healthy to drink, and Big Alcohol doesn’t seem to have ever argued that. I know there’s the occasional “a glass of red wine is good for your heart” stuff, but they’re also not making any attempt to deny a gallon of wine per day will probably cause cirrhosis, ya know?
Just adding. The liquor industry has been pushing the ‘drink responsibly’ line for decades. Back in the day they tried to get an AA member to sign on as a spokesperson but AA asked the member not to do it and they agreed.
Just FYI, the 1 glass a day study didn’t exclude ex alcoholics, so they polluted the zero-glass-a-day group with bad health making the 1-glass-a-day look healthier in comparison.
The study has been redone and it shows that the less alcohol you consume the better it is, no exceptions.
Yeah, in terms of individual health, I have no doubt that avoiding alcohol all together the best bet.
Personally, I subscribe to a flavor of “social lubricant” take on alcohol. That is, being a human and managing all the required social interactions and minor slights, stressors, stigmas, etc is a lot. And alcohol works to turn off some of the parts of the brain most active in social situations. That is to say that alcohol (and/or other mood altering drugs) are bad for the individual, but good for society.
Do need to caveat that take with: there’s a left and a right to what’s acceptable levels of intoxication. I don’t think the world would be better with everyone getting outright shit faced every night, and even a glass every night might be excessive; its easy to fall prey to addiction and that’s undesirable. But also, I don’t think we’d be better off without alcohol all together. I think a couple glasses per week - and not drinking those glasses alone - makes for a healthy enough middle ground.
alcohol … bad for the individual, but good for society
Alcohol is ranked as society’s most harmful drug, because no, for way too many people it’s not just a few drinks per week in a healthy social setting. It’s also one of the few drugs where you can literally die during withdrawal.
Yup, and I think that’s a symptom of how isolating modern society is (as opposed to the disease society suffers from).
I def do not advocate for drinking alone in any quantity, but I would also never advocate to remove alcohol from society. It feels reasonable to conclude that since every society that’s ever had success at some level has had some form of mind altering substance (usually alcohol) that was consumed recreationally and regularly.
You can’t remove it, its too easy to make. It doesnt need to be advertised though.
Well I mean, why stop at just alcohol ads? I say we ban them all.
^^ Only kinda joking there. I do hate ads, esp those that interrupt whatever content I was involved in (TV, streaming, pop-up). Ones that just kinda set on the side are mostly okay (billboards, banner ads, those pamphlets at hotels, etc).
There’s a good reason we’ve had alcohol for almost as long as we’ve had civilization, and I think you hit on some key points of it here. It’s a social lubricant, many important meetings and decisions of history might not have happened without a little drink to loosen some tongues.
That’s not to say that it’s good for you, but alcohol has been present alongside human evolution in sort of the same way that dogs have. We go waaayyyyyy way back together.
Alcohol has also just been more prevalent in human cultures dating back to prehistory. Some of the earliest evidence we have of permanent human settlements were breweries, theorized to have been built by people who still lived semi-nomadic hunter-gatherer lifestyles. That would mean that humans first started making permanent settlements and doing large-scale agriculture only to produce alcohol, and still mainly relied on hunting and gathering for their caloric needs. Other drugs / intoxicants have been used by humans for at least as long, but none have been so central to the development of civilization and culture than alcohol.
Yeah, I could never fly an economy flight without a drink or three to lighten the spirits.
… drink or three…
… lighten the spirits.
I see what you did there.
