Having scrolled through a couple years of her comics just to see for myself I think she’s mostly just anti-MAGA and occasionally overshoots a little into common men’s issues she has a blind spot for.
I don’t think she’s misandrist she’s just not perfect.
I have you tagged “the reason women choose the bear” over your behavior the last time that came up - you have a long long history of being an incel and claiming any criticism of a man is criticism of all men, which you’re doing yet again in this thread.
I greatly prefer the lemmy interface to the piefed one, and I don’t really want to bother migrating everything. It’s just a personal preference thing though, there’s nothing beyond that.
PieFed offers user tagging in both its web UI and in the API so that any app using it could pull from them, although regarding the latter I am not sure which ones actually do or not (Mlwm reportedly does, surely I would think that Blorp would as it touts itself as offering greatest compatibility with PieFed, etc.).
Blorp dev here. Blorp does have user tagging, but it actually stores all that data client side. I had no idea PieFed had user tagging built in. It would be nice to integrate with the PieFed API, but it would be a little tricky.
Currently, if you tag a user in Blorp, that tag is stored at the app level. You can login to your app with a Lemmy and a PieFed account simultaneously. If you tag a user from your PieFed account, you will still see that user tag after you switch to your Lemmy account.
If we did tagging at account level instead of app level, the user tags you see would change base on which account you switch to.
Thank you so much. I have now tagged you “helpful” and it shows up everywhere except for this exact comment. Weird. maybe it just takes some time to propagate, although I don’t see why.
For the most part I like lemmy, but the community is incredibly incel-heavy. One of the most successful forms of bait on here (besides political trolling) is posting any even slightly contentious topic about women’s experiences in society or things like institutional sexism. Seriously, keep an eye out - it’s depressingly predictable.
What a random mischaracterization, feels like I’ve been mistaken for somebody. Theres really nothing to even respond to, here, except point out ad hominem.
Criticism of a person’s behavior when that’s the subject at hand is not an ad homeniem, it’s the argument. You’ve got a long history of misapplying logical fallacies and taking these sorts of commentaries where a man is portrayed negatively incredibly personally and then poorly defending your claims.
For example: elsewhere in this thread, where you’ve refused to back up your claims that the author is a “well documented” misandrist. If it’s well documented, it should not be a burden for you to provide evidence, and yet you refuse repeatedly.
I’m directly criticizing two separate things: your behavior, and your claim that pizzacake is a well documented misandrist. That your behavior is remarkably predictable around these issues doesn’t invalidate your claim; we get the conclusion that your claim is baseless from the way you refuse to support it.
Neither of those are an ad hominem or a whattaboutism, and you would be well served by finding out what those terms represent before you try and defend yourself with them.
Saying it does not make it so. It seems to me that referencing your prior behavior and attacking your lack of sources are both relevant and productive for discussion, while misusing fallacies to shut down arguments you don’t like is, ironically, a rhetorical fallacy. They aren’t deflecting by randomly bringing up some unrelated characteristic (for example: you shouldn’t trust this influencer’s opinion on food, I have it on good authority that they’re a terrible parent!), they’re calling back to your previous behavior in similar situations (for example: you shouldn’t trust this influencer’s opinion on food because they have a history of giving people food poisoning!). That isn’t ad hominem, or whataboutism.
If your character and actions might be damming to your arguments, attacking them is attacking your argument, especially when also attacking your sources! Ironically, continuing to attack the comic artist without citing sources is ad hominem, by definition.
Sources?! You need fucking Data? You need a scientific study to discern the precise level of sexism of Pizzacake? Did you ask for sources when Kanye West was in the news for chanting “Heil Hitler”? If not does that mean you need a news article about it from the New York Times or some shit? Did you ask for sources on altright comic artist StoneToss?
I have, multiple times now, demonstrated that a very large number of people recognize this artist as sexist with specific examples going back many years.
Holy shit, you made me have an absolute laughing fit with that comment. How the fuck are you so fucking dumb that you think that image proves your point? All it actually does is show your extremely secluded incel mindset.
It was fun to read this whole thing but this specific reply from you made it a truly memorable thing. You have some serious issues, I hope you have no contact with any women that could be affected but you, “IRL” or not.
Are you taking her anti trump comics to be anti men? Your search screenshot in a different thread was just for controversy, not misandry as you initially claimed. I’ve seen several pro lgbt comics from her, so saying she’s anti equality seems disingenuous.
No, I’m taking her anti-men comics to be anti-men. The multiple posts she made on men’s health month and the many posts and comments about male sexual assault victims. It’s really easy to search this up, you don’t have to sit here and ask me about it.
The comic received a lot of hateful, abusive comments, like people saying they hope the artist is raped…
… and some reasonable responses pointing out that re panel 3 that is exactly how people (men and women) often react to men trying to share about their mental health
And re panel 2 (rape/robbery metaphor aside) male rape survivors are often not believed, told they should have been able to defend themselves, and in the case of female-on-male rape told they are lucky and should be grateful, that getting sex is always a good thing for a man.
She responded to these comments badly, in particular belittling several male SA survivors who shared about their experiences.
The reasonable comments were kinda lost in a sea of abuse, so I understand her overreacting to an extent
And she more or less made an apology comic next week, where I appreciate the sentiment even if the dialogue is quite on-the-nose:
I remember one comic of hers was pretty tone deaf and caused a bit of a stir:
Not sure how to find it, but it was supposed to be a “imagine if women acted like this to men” as a way to point out problematic behaviors men have, but instead of picking things that never happen to men for the point to land she used things that actually already happen to men. This showed she was apparently unaware the reversal was true instead of ridiculous which, yikes.
That’s the only thing I’m aware of though so not sure about “well documented”. Maybe there’s some social media posts that people didn’t like or something? That’s as much light as I can shed on the situation.
Stonetoss comics were just banned here because people did not seperate the art from tge artist. And i hate to use the word art for stonetoss and pizzacake.
Having frequent or traumatic experiences with members of a group is not a good reason to hate that group at all unless it’s actually the group’s defining feature directly causing it, and it’s their own choice.
That’s different to suffering from trauma as a result, which obviously you can’t control, and might result in some behaviour that looks similar on the surface.
My other comment to finite banjo not withstanding (that was specifically an insult to them), yours is the comment closest to understanding what I meant out of any here.
Sexism is sometimes OK. Like in sport. If women’s sport didn’t exist they would have no chance to compete. Should we get rid of women’s sports because it’s sexist?
Pizzacake the well documented misandrist? Why?
I’m pretty sure it’s not men, it’s just men exactly like you
She’s made multiple comics making fun of men’s mental health issues, she very much seems to have it in for men in general.
Having scrolled through a couple years of her comics just to see for myself I think she’s mostly just anti-MAGA and occasionally overshoots a little into common men’s issues she has a blind spot for.
I don’t think she’s misandrist she’s just not perfect.
No, but she’s a woman on the Internet and if she isn’t perfect, dipshits like @Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works will make sure she knows all about it.
You would lose that bet.
I have you tagged “the reason women choose the bear” over your behavior the last time that came up - you have a long long history of being an incel and claiming any criticism of a man is criticism of all men, which you’re doing yet again in this thread.
Just found out Boost also has this feature. Neat.
I do wish it was innate to lemmy like it is in piefed so they’d (theoretically?) carry over between mobile and web, but yeah it’s very nice.
Is there any reason to keep using Lemmy?
I greatly prefer the lemmy interface to the piefed one, and I don’t really want to bother migrating everything. It’s just a personal preference thing though, there’s nothing beyond that.
I’ve been trying to find out how to do that on Boost.
Halp.
Click on profile. Press three dots in upper left of phone screen, click “Tag User”.
Much love! I hope you have a great day!
Thank you! This made my day all the better
Does voyager app have this tag feature?
Yes. Long press a username and it’ll bring up a menu that allows you to create a tag
Mine must be broken. I only see send message and block user.
That is weird. Here is how it looks on my end
Must be a difference between iOS and android
I think so… but also PieFed has it innately.
What? Where? How? App or web UI?
PieFed offers user tagging in both its web UI and in the API so that any app using it could pull from them, although regarding the latter I am not sure which ones actually do or not (Mlwm reportedly does, surely I would think that Blorp would as it touts itself as offering greatest compatibility with PieFed, etc.).
Blorp dev here. Blorp does have user tagging, but it actually stores all that data client side. I had no idea PieFed had user tagging built in. It would be nice to integrate with the PieFed API, but it would be a little tricky.
Currently, if you tag a user in Blorp, that tag is stored at the app level. You can login to your app with a Lemmy and a PieFed account simultaneously. If you tag a user from your PieFed account, you will still see that user tag after you switch to your Lemmy account.
If we did tagging at account level instead of app level, the user tags you see would change base on which account you switch to.
Thank you so much. I have now tagged you “helpful” and it shows up everywhere except for this exact comment. Weird. maybe it just takes some time to propagate, although I don’t see why.
I’m told it does, though I don’t use it personally so I’m not sure how it works thru that app.
just long press a username --> edit tag
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For the most part I like lemmy, but the community is incredibly incel-heavy. One of the most successful forms of bait on here (besides political trolling) is posting any even slightly contentious topic about women’s experiences in society or things like institutional sexism. Seriously, keep an eye out - it’s depressingly predictable.
What a random mischaracterization, feels like I’ve been mistaken for somebody. Theres really nothing to even respond to, here, except point out ad hominem.
Criticism of a person’s behavior when that’s the subject at hand is not an ad homeniem, it’s the argument. You’ve got a long history of misapplying logical fallacies and taking these sorts of commentaries where a man is portrayed negatively incredibly personally and then poorly defending your claims.
For example: elsewhere in this thread, where you’ve refused to back up your claims that the author is a “well documented” misandrist. If it’s well documented, it should not be a burden for you to provide evidence, and yet you refuse repeatedly.
Criticism of the criticism of a person’s behavior, via attacking the person and not the argument, is Ad Hominem, and also Whataboutism.
I’m directly criticizing two separate things: your behavior, and your claim that pizzacake is a well documented misandrist. That your behavior is remarkably predictable around these issues doesn’t invalidate your claim; we get the conclusion that your claim is baseless from the way you refuse to support it.
Neither of those are an ad hominem or a whattaboutism, and you would be well served by finding out what those terms represent before you try and defend yourself with them.
Saying it does not make it so. It seems to me that referencing your prior behavior and attacking your lack of sources are both relevant and productive for discussion, while misusing fallacies to shut down arguments you don’t like is, ironically, a rhetorical fallacy. They aren’t deflecting by randomly bringing up some unrelated characteristic (for example: you shouldn’t trust this influencer’s opinion on food, I have it on good authority that they’re a terrible parent!), they’re calling back to your previous behavior in similar situations (for example: you shouldn’t trust this influencer’s opinion on food because they have a history of giving people food poisoning!). That isn’t ad hominem, or whataboutism.
If your character and actions might be damming to your arguments, attacking them is attacking your argument, especially when also attacking your sources! Ironically, continuing to attack the comic artist without citing sources is ad hominem, by definition.
Sources?! You need fucking Data? You need a scientific study to discern the precise level of sexism of Pizzacake? Did you ask for sources when Kanye West was in the news for chanting “Heil Hitler”? If not does that mean you need a news article about it from the New York Times or some shit? Did you ask for sources on altright comic artist StoneToss?
I have, multiple times now, demonstrated that a very large number of people recognize this artist as sexist with specific examples going back many years.
it’s well documented?
use a search engine
or go ask her yourself, she will gladly verify for us
i only found recipe results for pizza cake and i have no interest in reaching out to her on whatever other social media platform im not on
Skill Issue
Holy shit, you made me have an absolute laughing fit with that comment. How the fuck are you so fucking dumb that you think that image proves your point? All it actually does is show your extremely secluded incel mindset. It was fun to read this whole thing but this specific reply from you made it a truly memorable thing. You have some serious issues, I hope you have no contact with any women that could be affected but you, “IRL” or not.
The above user could only find pictures of cake made of pizza. You must have missed that part?
so all the reddit threads had nothing of value then i started reading the kiwifarms forum post then i realised i don’t give a shit
reddit, knowyourmeme, and … kiwiframs!
You, Sir*, just played yourself
* not gendered
Not sure how I’ve “played myself”. Pizzacake is an infamous Redditor and still is to this day.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiwifarms
Cool
“infamous Redditor”
Aka “woman who won’t submit/sleep with me and had opinions that hurt my feefees”
Got it
lol wut? No amount of money could make me touch that.
Are you said this comic shows misandry? Or just the artist in general?
The artist in general, she is a particularly hateful individual who fights against equality.
Are you taking her anti trump comics to be anti men? Your search screenshot in a different thread was just for controversy, not misandry as you initially claimed. I’ve seen several pro lgbt comics from her, so saying she’s anti equality seems disingenuous.
No, I’m taking her anti-men comics to be anti-men. The multiple posts she made on men’s health month and the many posts and comments about male sexual assault victims. It’s really easy to search this up, you don’t have to sit here and ask me about it.
Can you link to some of these comics?
https://www.reddit.com/r/comics/comments/1dpptkk/talk/
Seems to be referenced fairly often by her detractors.
I’ve commented elsewhere that I think it’s a bad take.
Decide for yourself.
There was really only one:
https://www.reddit.com/r/comics/comments/1dpptkk/talk/
The comic received a lot of hateful, abusive comments, like people saying they hope the artist is raped…
… and some reasonable responses pointing out that re panel 3 that is exactly how people (men and women) often react to men trying to share about their mental health
And re panel 2 (rape/robbery metaphor aside) male rape survivors are often not believed, told they should have been able to defend themselves, and in the case of female-on-male rape told they are lucky and should be grateful, that getting sex is always a good thing for a man.
She responded to these comments badly, in particular belittling several male SA survivors who shared about their experiences.
The reasonable comments were kinda lost in a sea of abuse, so I understand her overreacting to an extent
And she more or less made an apology comic next week, where I appreciate the sentiment even if the dialogue is quite on-the-nose:
https://www.reddit.com/r/comics/comments/1dqhrhg/strong/
My verdict, she doesn’t hate men, she just made a mistake on one occasion.
Idk, can you?
It’s particularly ironic as OP was the one making a song and dance about wanting all comics from bigoted artists banned the other day.
With Jago it was really simple. Someone put the bigoted comics in the comments and it was really easy to see they were bigoted.
With PizzaCake it’s a whole thing! The people who don’t like her refuse to give any evidence. It’s almost like the evidence doesn’t exist.
I remember one comic of hers was pretty tone deaf and caused a bit of a stir:
Not sure how to find it, but it was supposed to be a “imagine if women acted like this to men” as a way to point out problematic behaviors men have, but instead of picking things that never happen to men for the point to land she used things that actually already happen to men. This showed she was apparently unaware the reversal was true instead of ridiculous which, yikes.
That’s the only thing I’m aware of though so not sure about “well documented”. Maybe there’s some social media posts that people didn’t like or something? That’s as much light as I can shed on the situation.
I think this is the one.
https://www.reddit.com/r/comics/comments/1dpptkk/talk/
I get what she’s aiming at but it’s a complete miss in my opinion. Men absolutely get mocked for all of those issues.
The getting robbed reaction is also true of men who’ve been raped or sexually assaulted.
I’m not convinced she’s a full on misandrist but she’s had some bad takes. Hard not to have some misses when you’ve made that much content.
At the rate she churns them out, yeah it’s not too surprising.
If she doubled down on bad takes it would really be a problem, but I’m not aware of that happening.
she is but i still like this comic
and i do look at the art more than the artist
Stonetoss comics were just banned here because people did not seperate the art from tge artist. And i hate to use the word art for stonetoss and pizzacake.
I mean, to be fair Stonetoss is both a shitty person, and a shitty artist.
That kind of applies here, too
Except Ellen isn’t a Shitty racist white supremacist.
No, instead she’s a misandrist. Misogynists hate women, racists hate other ethnicities, misandrists hates men. We should condemn hate at every turn.
Care to prove that? Because this whole thread is the entire community shitting on that same topic with someone else.
I highly recommend people who are uncertain go and search for the specifics, but I’m personally not going to waste my time reading her trash.
i voted against the ban btw
Well I generally avoid people like her, Kanye West, Stonetoss, etc.
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misandry doesn’t real
Let’s assume for the sake of discussion that you’re correct.
If a woman hates men, usually it’s for a damn good reason.
Having frequent or traumatic experiences with members of a group is not a good reason to hate that group at all unless it’s actually the group’s defining feature directly causing it, and it’s their own choice.
That’s different to suffering from trauma as a result, which obviously you can’t control, and might result in some behaviour that looks similar on the surface.
My other comment to finite banjo not withstanding (that was specifically an insult to them), yours is the comment closest to understanding what I meant out of any here.
You rn
Sexism is sometimes OK. Like in sport. If women’s sport didn’t exist they would have no chance to compete. Should we get rid of women’s sports because it’s sexist?
Your behavior in this thread is proving me right.
So one case in a niche forum is proving you right about all men? Sounds like sexism.
Wusha…