Trans man here, IMHO being nonbinary can be paired with being trans, but not necessarily, i.e. they are not inherently the same thing.
If they have dysphoria and want to transition to alleviate it (irrespective of whether they can), then yes, they are trans.
If the extent of a nonbinary person’s journey is to go by they/them, or they/them + the pronouns associated with their AGAB, then I would not categorise them as trans. To be clear, I am not saying that this is not a valid stance - just that the experience is not the same as being trans, though there may be some overlap.
Obviously you cannot work this out without intimately knowing the person, and it isn’t really anyone else’s business anyway, but to answer the question explicitly, I would refer to them as a nonbinary person (in the absence of further information, and where the ‘nonbinary’ descriptor is relevant otherwise I would just say ‘person’), not a trans person.
I am definitely both - transfemme nonbinary person here. While I am transitioning to alleviate my immense dysphoria, I am still most comfortable with they/them pronouns - though will accept she/her if binary terms must be used.
I don’t feel like a binary trans girl but I need to be as far away from being seen as a boy as possible. Which oddly leaves me desperate to be seen as a girl, because it’s the least incorrect of the two socially standard genders.
Disclaimer: I do not speak for other nonbinary people. The below is my personal opinion towards myself and does not extend to others.
This is the view I hold as well, about myself. I don’t have dysphoria regarding aspects of my body, so I don’t categorise myself as a trans person. I’m nonbinary, that’s the term that resonates with me most clearly. I do not wish my body reflected my inner understanding of myself, because my body doesn’t matter to me in that respect.
Idc what other people categorise themselves as; that’s a personal, intimate, and inner journey we all walk when queer and I respect them and their wishes.
Trans man here, IMHO being nonbinary can be paired with being trans, but not necessarily, i.e. they are not inherently the same thing.
If they have dysphoria and want to transition to alleviate it (irrespective of whether they can), then yes, they are trans.
If the extent of a nonbinary person’s journey is to go by they/them, or they/them + the pronouns associated with their AGAB, then I would not categorise them as trans. To be clear, I am not saying that this is not a valid stance - just that the experience is not the same as being trans, though there may be some overlap.
Obviously you cannot work this out without intimately knowing the person, and it isn’t really anyone else’s business anyway, but to answer the question explicitly, I would refer to them as a nonbinary person (in the absence of further information, and where the ‘nonbinary’ descriptor is relevant otherwise I would just say ‘person’), not a trans person.
I am definitely both - transfemme nonbinary person here. While I am transitioning to alleviate my immense dysphoria, I am still most comfortable with they/them pronouns - though will accept she/her if binary terms must be used.
I don’t feel like a binary trans girl but I need to be as far away from being seen as a boy as possible. Which oddly leaves me desperate to be seen as a girl, because it’s the least incorrect of the two socially standard genders.
Disclaimer: I do not speak for other nonbinary people. The below is my personal opinion towards myself and does not extend to others.
This is the view I hold as well, about myself. I don’t have dysphoria regarding aspects of my body, so I don’t categorise myself as a trans person. I’m nonbinary, that’s the term that resonates with me most clearly. I do not wish my body reflected my inner understanding of myself, because my body doesn’t matter to me in that respect.
Idc what other people categorise themselves as; that’s a personal, intimate, and inner journey we all walk when queer and I respect them and their wishes.
Thanks for the insightful response