Nonbinary person here, and yes nb people are trans. You’re transitioning from one gender to another.

Trying to assert otherwise, and playing semantic word games, especially when we’re all being so heavily targeted right now, is reckless and stupid. Whether an individual non-binary person feels a strong connection of the word transgender is their business, but we should all be banding together and meeting the fucking moment. Not atomizing ourselves further

In my experience, there can be very strong views on this question from people who identify as enby and/or trans. I always defer to what the enby person I am interacting with prefers identifies as, but know that what is good for the goose isn’t always good for the gander. I’d always suggest asking the person you’re referring to about how they personally identify, but I have had almost zero reason to ever ask. Pronouns are usually enough for day to day interactions and friends/family have always just volunteered without me asking (they’d give different responses to your question, by the way).

Edit: suggested to me that “prefer” sounds suggestive. How someone identifies isn’t a preference but a fact. Crossed out in original to show what changed, and I was assured it’s nitpicky but nice to not use prefer 😊

It is a form of transgenderism, though not necessarily the case given the technicality.

Yes but this is where certain qualifiers come in. I’ve known nonbinary people for whom all it is is a personal identity. When I talk about trans issues they’re rarely a part of it, because those issues rarely impact them. Inversely I’ve known nonbinary people who’ve had to grapple with getting legal recognition, getting access to surgery and hormones, and all that other stuff. Of course they’re included when I talk about trans issues. At the end of the day, both and everything in between falls under the umbrella, but not all discussions about the umbrella are about everyone under it, and it’s not always worth creating words for different subcategories.

Enby here: I’m neither a transman nor a transwoman, but trans issues affect me.

“Trans” can be a pretty large umbrella. When you get into specifics, I’m not so sure that I’m trans. But I am part of the trans community. Not trans, but also trans. Schrodinger’s trans person.

Consider someone who’s agender. They’d be non-binary, but they also aren’t transitioning to any gender. Ask the GOP which bathroom to use and you can watch their head explode.

The definition of transgender is anyone who identifies with a gender other than the one they were assigned at birth. It is therefore an umbrella term that includes nonbinary genders. Being transgender and transitioning are separate things.

That being said, when people are talking about “trans people” they often mean binary trans people (ie men and women), especially in the current political context.

It’s also not unheard of for some nonbinary people to be uncomfortable with calling themselves trans, presumably for the associations with binary trans people.

Edit: i should clarify, by this I mean transgender definitionally in the abstract. When talking about a specific person’s identity, it just comes down how they identify. If an enby doesn’t identify as trans for any reason, don’t call them trans.

That is decided by each individual non binary person. If they say their trans, that’s valid. If they say they aren’t, also valid. Trans is an intentionally broad community, but never one that requires membership.

Enby here.

Absolutely not.

Non-binary means you represent yourself outside of both genders as in, you identify as neither, you’re just an individual. Alternatively, you can also identify as genderfluid, being that you’re a mix of both but still don’t identify yourself as strongly either gender.

But regarding anything transgender-related? No. Transgender is you still identifying by a gender and changing over to that other gender. So long as you identify, strongly, as one or both genders to be either, you are not non-binary. So, please don’t confuse the two.

SO: The key difference between non-binary and trans is pretty clear. Non-Binary identifies OUTSIDE of genders, all and any. Transgenders identifies INSIDE genders, both or any. The only key trait they both share is - Genderfluid. But even then, the two don’t correspond eachother. And to clarify the shared Genderfluid label;

When you’re Non-Binary and Genderfluid, you take numerous attributes and traits from either gender, but you do not strongly represent either gender. You can behave like a man outside, feel female inside and still be like “I still see myself as just a person, no gender.” and vice versa.

When you’re Transgender and Genderfluid, you take numerous attributes and traits from either gender, so you identify as both genders and you go about that however you wish.

idk about trans, but they are gender nonconforming and part of GSM (gender and sexuality minorities).

I’m pretty sure no-one is assigned enby at birth.

Only if they consider themselves trans.

I’m nonbinary and not trans! People have tried to declare to me that nonbinary people are inherently trans. No. I will bite them. :V

– Frost

Trans man here, IMHO being nonbinary can be paired with being trans, but not necessarily, i.e. they are not inherently the same thing.

If they have dysphoria and want to transition to alleviate it (irrespective of whether they can), then yes, they are trans.

If the extent of a nonbinary person’s journey is to go by they/them, or they/them + the pronouns associated with their AGAB, then I would not categorise them as trans. To be clear, I am not saying that this is not a valid stance - just that the experience is not the same as being trans, though there may be some overlap.

Obviously you cannot work this out without intimately knowing the person, and it isn’t really anyone else’s business anyway, but to answer the question explicitly, I would refer to them as a nonbinary person (in the absence of further information, and where the ‘nonbinary’ descriptor is relevant otherwise I would just say ‘person’), not a trans person.

Not necessarily. If someone’s intersex, for example, that could be a cis nonbinary person (if they identify as such).

Likewise you’ve got people who all their life haven’t really felt particularly to the gender binary. Legal stuff might’ve still forced them into a box, though. A common definition is that of people whose gender identity doesn’t overlap with the one assigned at birth.

I personally mostly use trans for people who identify as such; people who desire to change how they express their gender identity, for example. Others might have different ideas about when to use that term or not, but that’s how I view it myself.

No.

They are two different things.