As an American who uses the 24-hour time, so many people use 12-hour I basically still use 12-hour.

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    American consumers will buy anything. Why hasn’t anyone developed a military clock for proud American households?

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    I call it “computer time” because I’m tired of people I’m talking with thinking its something to do with the military.

    “UTC motherfucker! Do you speak it?!”

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      When I was a civilian, everyone called it military time, because only the US military used it.

      When I joined the US military, they called it International Time, because the rest of the world used it and we were just meeting international standards so there’s no confusion with our global allies.

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    Military grade is defined as the lowest quality required to be used by the military, often resulting in the cheapest product that is still suitable for military use.

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      Not quite. It’s anything that meets the minimum for the military. This, for most normal items, means getting the job done and lasting long enough, with an emphasis on low cost and bulk production. The result is “military grade” usually being the absolute worst that still works.

      As someone that outdoors a lot, this shit is great for many items. If I base camp, all my water containers are military, and I have 120mm ammo boxes for food and stuff because animals, water, and air can’t get in. Heavy and inconvenient as hell, but cheap af and works well—that’s military crap for you.

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        …absolutely zero people that have been in the US military agree with your assessment. Doesn’t matter the branch or MOS.

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          That’s not an assumption lol. Literally what 810 is.

          Shit to get the job done. If it didn’t work for you, it did for 9 others, so it worked and the job was done.

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      I always saw it as “a ton of money is thrown at R-D on this one specific thing to make it do that ken specific thing really well”

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        Almost, it’s “a ton of money is charged for this minimally useful thing made by the lowest bidder”

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        That’s why they use it as a buzzword. I encourage you to do your own research now that it’s been brought up that it may differ from what they sold you on.

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    Don’t forget the klick. Most of them are not buying that either.

    The people in all the countries that have no problem counting off another dozen past twelve don’t always do that though. If you meet your friend at 15:00 most people will revert to “at 3” in their language. And they might “go to bed at 11.” Economy of language and context clues. So colloquially the am/pm crowd and the 24h folks aren’t far apart at all.

    And any person claiming that it’s too difficult to add or subtract twelve from at maximum a low two-digit integer ought to have their passport revoked.

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    24-hour-clock being a military thing is kind of a USA-thing anyway, in many other countries it’s just normal.

    I wish there was a more practical way to have an analog 24-hour-clock, a clockface with 24 numbers is kinda hard to read.

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      There is, you have two sets of numbers for each hour marking like this:

      or like this:

      This requires no change to the time mechanism, so you can pretty easily modify the face of any standard analog clock to be like this.

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        Not much of an improvement over the standard design. I already know that the clockhand pointing to 1 means that it’s either 1 am or 13 o’clock/1 pm, but it still doesn’t tell me unambiguously which one it is.

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          Well yeah, functionally it is the standard design. In terms of making a readable clock, this is probably the most practical. Anything more would require some major changes to the mechanism.

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      I have one and it isn’t that hard to read. The top is still 12 but the bottom is midnight with 6 and 18 in the 9 and 3 place respectively.

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        I think so. I work in EMS and we use 24 hr. All my clocks and devices are set to 24 hr and I am irritated when I can’t change them off the 12 hr clock. It’s safer, if I tell you a medication was last administered at 10:00 there’s room for error, but if I tell you it was given at 2200 there’s no confusion.

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    I find the 12-hour practical for daily life. But I put my phone on 24 hour time when I’m traveling and find that to be helpful.