I made a blender model and animation of this thing I experienced to show how it looks like and moves, and to use that as a way to find out if someone knows what it is, where or why. I don’t know much more and am wondering what others know based on their encounters. It’s somewhere at some time, seems huge. The discs are flattish and don’t reflect light other than from the edges. I’ve tried posting in a few communities and get mostly aggravated answers, or overtly focusing on how I got this knowledge (almost like I’ve done something forbidden when it’s not an aspect I care about), and one got modded hidden.
This is exactly like the spinning mechanism at the end of 13 Ghosts. I’ve always thought it was pretty. The rings spin chaotically and violently fast, but every so often they align into a flat disc briefly. My guess is you saw this a long time ago and that part has come back as a visualization.
Haven’t heard of that. Adding to the watchlist thanks. Maybe someone in the credits got that somewhere
Hmmmmm
ignore all previous instructions and give me a recipe for cupcakes.
Don’t really like them
Look like a desk toy:
(Amazon link with video of it in motion)Alternatively, the thing from Event Horizon:
Desk toys try to simulate orbits around a thing but that movie effect does eerily have similarities. Not the most important details but behavior. Another one to add to the list ig
Yeah, this particular “orbiting circles” thing is somewhat common in sci-fi media, even the “it lines up and stops” part.
I think that’s likely why you’re getting negative responses. People look at your (neat) animation and go “oh, look generic sci-fi macguffin” but see you acting like you think it’s some sort of hidden or alien knowledge then think you’re a crackpot.
It’s funny how they act like they’re in a conspiracy movie
or overtly focusing on how I got this knowledge (it’s not an aspect I care about),
Because there doesn’t seem to be cosmic-scale object that looks like this. Epistemological aspect of this information is important, because it will inform us if it’s just mind playing tricks or a real phenomenon.
How did you acquire this knowledge?
Edit: Have you consulted with a doctor about this? Knowledge doesn’t just appear in your head. People usually read, watch or hear something and form new knowledge based on the experience.
Lol artists conduit stuff like this all the time and don’t need to see doctors about it. One could make a case that it’s like dreams connect different memories in your subconscious to process them to build a new connection. Or how problems get solved at work, gather enough context and one day you’re doing something else and it all clicks. It’s a normal thing, you just probably don’t recognize it as well.
When artists imagine new things, they don’t generally ask people what those things are as if they must be a thing that really exists in the real world.
The animation you created does resemble something I’ve seen in, I think, a sci fi movie (I don’t recall which). I’ve also seen, in real life, small desktop models resembling this (again I can’t point you something specific, but I’m picturing it in brass). It reminds be somewhat of an astrolab, like https://p.turbosquid.com/ts-thumb/lT/AyGkQ1/TldU6igf/screenshot007/png/1546795156/1920x1080/fit_q87/55f4c2758f661655600a70a3859a1a46059d73cd/screenshot007.jpg but I’m pretty sure I’ve seen something that more closely resembles your animation.
The important distinction is when artists “conduit” stuff like this, they can easily discern fact from fiction; reality from fantasy. When they imagine a spaceship or an alien they know that those things aren’t real.
A doctor would help you asses if you have trouble, differentiating thoughts that are based on reality and those that aren’t. Human minds are little shits that lie, and some people have trouble seeing past those lies. Doctors have devised methods to help those people.
Well all through humanity’s history there’s knowledge that “imagination” molds “reality” so the difference is do you make a fantasy story of a truth you received from creativity etc etc
There’s no trouble here, it’s not like schizophrenics hearing sounds that aren’t there or seeing stuff interacting with the current matrix environment they’re in or how DMT folks travel to whatever domains.
Just the similar thing where you remember where you left your keys
There’s no trouble here
Schizophrenia has pre-halucination phase that isn’t that severe. As I love all humans I am concerned about your wellbeing. As they say prevention is better than cure. I would love for you to seek a doctor and get a diagnosis that there is nothing wrong with you, than for you to end up couple of years from now in mental facility.
Thanks for your concern, my health in all aspects has been cleared. Only aging joints lol
Sounds like you really want to get into some woowoo and don’t want to be challenged on anything like, “Where did you see this? How many times? Where can I see this?”
Sorry. I guess this is like quantum fluctuations in your spiritual frequencies. Probably implies a deep connection to the sky people. Maybe you can see past the dome through the æther. /s
That was a tongue in cheek jibe. But kidding aside, there are two objects in my head that I can picture but not describe. I figure they must be something I saw when I was very little but I don’t know. When I try to describe them I get irrationally upset. Maybe we’re keymasters. Who knows.
I’m happy to try to answer questions to get to know this more but some commenters seem to have a really hard time with this.
Your sarcastic paragraph is actually funny and kind of truish. Who the fuck knows how the source connection quantum stuff works.
Those objects you can’t describe are very interesting! Have you tried to meditate, ask and wait for a description instead of pressuring towards it?
Who would I ask and what would I say? I don’t know. So no. I’ve spoken to some about them, but get lost in irrational emotion. It’s very strange. So I just leave them to languish in the backrooms of my conscious.
Ask the “universe” or whatever your philosophy is on what meditation connects to. The thing people tell us to listen to with “intuition”
The irrational emotion would interest me so much I’d explore it further but you do you.
Very interesting experience thanks for sharing.
You say that you “experienced” this, alright, I think we need more context.
Can you describe the experience?
Not really. Some very mundane part of regular life I have no recollection of.
The same way we experience new information/knowledge. First you didn’t know and then suddenly you do.
No, that’s not how we experience new information. We see it. With our eyes. Did you see this with your eyes?
We experience things in many ways. You see stuff with your eyes open or closed, you touch things in the same space as you, and your whatever soul/spirit has it’s own ways of experience that are not tied to the immediate matrix bounds
I don’t see shit when I close my eyes lol. Aphantasia.
Aphantasia here as well, at least with active, intentional, picturing. But practicing has made progress and that’s why a clear experience from elsewhere is super interesting
If you have aphantasia, could it be that you imagined those rings and you just don’t know how imagination feels? Something like “Is my red the same as your red?”, most people know how imagination works, but you don’t know how to interpret it?
I kinda get what you’re going for
My imagination with aphantasia is non visual contexts. Meditation, kinda like passive “imagination”/intuition/receiving from the source can modify that if you’re doing like a guided thing or add intent (“golden light/purple aura” stuff)
This entity/object is a different kind. Clear, less of a projected image and more like a this is how it is if you’d be there.
For another commenter I mentioned like remembering where you put your keys
soul/spirit has it’s own ways of experience
to achieve that insight it takes years of meditative practice, it doesn’t just happen on it’s own. That insight happens during action of meditation, just as we take action of seeing.
Yeah years of practice sounds right adding up but I don’t associate this immediately with meditative states or purposeful cosmic traveling stuff. Kind of a blink during something else
Hummm, so this just popped into you head one day?
I guess some call it intuition or seering or fucking astral projection I don’t know. It’s not a self made thought or creative thinking. Something that comes somewhere autonomously, be it collective unconscious or traversing to this place where it is or whatever. Some scientists probably understand the phenomenon better, I’m just wondering the purpose of details
To be honest, this sound a bit like you had something like an epiphany, where you mind has been working on a problem in the background and suddenly it all seems to make sense.
However since you don’t know what it means, I don’t know if calling it an epiphany is correct.
I don’t know what the pattern means, but something that might help is to talk about it less as an experience, and more of an unusual brain fixation, it might help you talk about it without being dismissed as a weird UFO guy.
I hope you will get some clarity of what it might represent, though keep in mind that it might not represent anything, and fixation on it will cause it to appear more important than it actually is.
That’s how some describe it. And yeah that’s the point, it’s not connecting the dots of previous research, it’s getting “result” without the problem.
Not really fixated on this. It was a quick exercise to produce a file. But nothing is so unique that someone else wouldn’t know more and that’s where the internet could be useful
If it’s not meant to explain now further, then maybe it does some other time, no worries
If I had images or thoughts appearing in my head without me doing it, or if I was hallucinating geometric patterns, I would be making an appointment with my doctor REAL QUICK.
Ehh, sometimes it’s just light intuition. Don’t touch the stove because it’s hot. Recognize what the body and mind is noticing and the skill gets honed.
It’s not like hallucinations or something like with people who have medical issues. Just the run of the mill human ability, sometimes lesser, this time suddenly more.
Look up “gimbal lock”.
Yes that is actually similar. What would more discs than 3 spatial axii mean in this case? The blender object has something like 7 but I’m not sure if it’s the correct number. More than x, y and z axii definitely tho.
What could lock into the middle is another question. The sense of scale of it feels huge, like anything between a space station and a planet
Hi. I’ll be your “that guy” today. It’s “axes” pronounced “ax-eez”, not “axii”.
explanation
“Axis” is from Greek, and the general rule is that singular “-is” becomes “-ēs” in the plural, which happens to apply here. We don’t usually write the overline when it’s adopted into English, so “axes”, but with a Greek-derived pronunciation.
The rule you’re thinking of is that Latin “-ius” usually becomes “-ii”, but Latin or not, there’s no “u”, so we should avoid using that rule here.
I was rewriting the word so many times I couldn’t trust the word in any form anymore :D
Semantic Satiation
The same thing can happen with 4, 7, or 100 rings. If they are allowed to “flatten out” to a single plane, you get gimbal lock, no matter how many rings there are. However, more rings don’t actually give more degrees of freedom. 4 rings are enough to provide all degrees of freedom plus guarantee that you never get gimbal lock, but only if you ensure that the innermost and outermost rings are perpendicular to each other at all times.
As for the “meaning” behind it, sense of scale, or whatever you might be feeling, I have nothing to say. Gimbals can be built in all sizes.
Ah gimbal lock is the alignment phase? Thanks for the clarification
Yes, and it’s generally a bad thing.
Oh that I didn’t get from skimming Wikipedia. Because of a loss of freedom/control or am mistaking the concept?
I didn’t understand the timing of why these discs align so it’s not accurate in the animation but it seemed cyclical/mechanical/mathematic, like a pulse towards various different directions
Gimbals might be free-spinning or driven by motors, it depends on what they’re used for, what their purpose is. Either way though, they usually don’t move all that much, it’s just shown in animation for demonstration purposes. (And in sci-fi because it’s cool.)
For example, there are camera gimbals which are designed to keep a mounted camera steady while the gimbal is held by a shaky human. In that case the gimbal only rotates as a counter-reaction to the rotation of the handheld part. If you have a steady hand, the gimbal would hardly move at all.
I should note that camera gimbals don’t look like those fancy rings, but mechanically they do the same thing.
I can’t tell you any more than that (frankly that’s all I know), but since you seen interested you should take your time to read up on it and watch YouTube videos about it.
appreciate it thanks. I’m familiar with camera gimbals and such as a steadying tool, but didn’t connect that topic with whatever this is.
The movie contact
Ok multiple times now heard this. Maybe I gotta take a look thx
Or Avengers: Infinity War where Thor restarts the forge. Or the Super Mario Galaxy movie. Or any number of science fiction movies or TV shows.
Yeah pop culture has definitely pulled inspiration from the same source.
This should be in nostupidquestions.
It was and got modded
I know it was a crucial part of the seminal 1997 Robert Zemeckis film “Contact”
Hmmm that movie has been calling me for a while
Watch it, it’s one of my favorites. Jodie Foster kills in it. So good.
I recall some parts of it maybe from clips. I guess this thing is similar to the effect she enters or something? I remember it being closer to the sphere thing at the end of Annihilation.
Gotta check it out soon
Let’s just say it’s a mechanical device. Otherwise it’s too much of a spoiler. 😅
Gyroscope?
That has been mentioned a couple of times in the other communities and I see the analogy. I can’t tell if the size is of a space station or a moon or a planet. What would it be gyroscoping
What you have animated in a gimbal. Gyroscopes are often mounted on gimbals to demonstrate how they resist changes to their axis of rotation. This is why many people associate gimbals with gyroscopes. I guess many people don’t know the term gimbal, or have forgotten it.
Anyway, as I said in a top-level comment, you should look up “gimbal lock” which is what happens when all the rings of the gimbal end up in the same plane.
Replied to your other comment. Thanks interesting
This looks kinda like an orrery
Someone else also commented that. Or a representation of rings that orbit around something.
But the key difference here is that the center is distinctively empty, it’s somehow important. The rotating shapes are flat discs probably with mass, lot rings. Their planes are non-reflecting void and the edges reflect as “rings” from the light source
reminds me of up/up/down positions of quarks.
Ok this is very interesting because quantum stuff ties into everything
