• Bloomcole@lemmy.world
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    6 days ago

    If ever there was a time to stop believing in religious BS.
    How TF is any of those gods going to explain this?

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      6 days ago

      You don’t need to be religious to perform evil acts the same way you don’t need to be religious to perform moral acts.

      At best the Israeli government is completely incapable of distinguishing between enemy combatants and civilians/children and at worst is intentionally committing genocide.

      Given all the evidence we’ve seen so far, it’s certainly the latter.

      Either scenario should be enough for the UN to step in with a heavily armed and permanent peacekeeping force to hold a long lasting ceasefire and start of a many decades long process of peace negotiations, rebuilding, reparations, and war crime court hearings.

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        Religious people don’t have to be bad, yes. That does not magically erase the centuries of history where religion was used as an excuse to perpetrait violence.

        Sure, it wouldn’t “fix” violence, but you’d have to be a complete moron to fail to understand how the world would be very, very different if it were removed.

        To think the world would be no different is literally as dumb as people who argue nothing should be illegal because people do bad things anyways…

        No one is saying things would be perfect. They’re only saying bad people would have one less excuse.

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      5 days ago

      Are world leaders defending israel for religious reason? Instead of focusing about leaders complicity with the genocide you prefer saying this bs and usrless comment

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            True but religion is a useful tool to motivate the gullibles.
            But again, since I have to explain:
            How can you believe in this BS when all this horrible stuff happens.
            ‘children of god’ bla bla.
            Whoever this Rachel is, she should stick to the point.
            I won’t waste my time listening to some preaching.

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      5 days ago

      I can’t believe it. It has been less than two weeks and I’m already bumping into another Bloomcole shit take. As an atheist, this chap embarrasses me.

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      4 days ago

      LOOK AT ME! I’M AN ATHEIST!

      Great. Getting everyone in Israel and Palestine to drop religion isn’t going to happen and therefore isn’t a realistic solution.

      But yes, you are intellectually superior or whatever. Good for you.

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          Without the support of both major US parties, they would also be more fringe.

          If only either party had the moral courage to stop weapons sales. Or even condition them.

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        5 days ago

        True, but their fascist leaders still think it’s their divine right.
        Maybe look up Eretz Israel

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      4 days ago

      This has nothing to do with religion. It’s pure supremacist hate.

      Block me if you wish, its what you seem to do with any non agreeing reaction on your non agreeable reaction.

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        4 days ago

        I explained and sourced it suficiently.
        I let the biblethumpers vent their little frustrations but one comment is enough.
        Don’t need a lecture

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        5 days ago

        Zionism is Atheistic.

        Oh fuck off. Zionism 100% based in the Jewish belief that they are the chosen people and thusly better and more deserving than anyone else.

        Fuck yourself with your white-washing of bad religion.

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          This is your brain on New Atheism.

          Haaretz - How Israel Went From Atheist Zionism to Jewish State

          Zionism as a national movement that rebelled against historical Judaism was mainly atheistic. Most of its leaders and activists ceased believing in redemption through the coming of the Messiah, the long-standing essence of Jewish belief, and took their fate into their own hands. The power of the human subject replaced the power of the omnipotent God.

          The rabbis knew that, and were terrified – and, therefore, almost all of them became avowed anti-Zionists. From Hasidic rebbes Sholom Dovber Schneersohn, the Admor of Lubavitch (Chabad) and Yehudah Aryeh Leib Alter (the Admor of Gur) to leading U.S. Reform Rabbi Isaac Mayer Wise, founder of the Reform Central Conference, mitnagdim and Hasidim, Orthodox, Reform and Conservative, all saw the rise of Zionism as the end of Judaism. Due to the sweeping opposition of the rabbis of Germany, Theodor Herzl was forced to transfer the First Zionist Congress from Munich to the Swiss city of Basel.

          But beginning with the first stages in the consolidation and settlement of the Zionist movement, it was forced to meticulously sort and thoroughly nationalize some of the religious beliefs in order to turn them into nation-building myths.

          For the atheistic Zionists, God was dead and therefore the Holy Land became the homeland; all the traditional holidays became national holidays; and Jerusalem stopped being a heavenly city and became the very earthly capital of an eternal people. But it wasn’t these decisions, or many others, that prevented secular nationalism from serving as the foundation for the establishment of the State of Israel.

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          The point of religion is that the worldly life is a test for people to do good and bad. That is what the whole heaven and hell thing is about. If anything this story is awfully reminiscient of Mozes and the Pharaoh.

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                  lol, the salty biblethumper.
                  And this is what you clowns call ‘progressive’ LOL

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                    When you have to invent things about people to make your point, you have no point - you’re just showing people you’re an idiot. You’re particulary persistent in demonstrating that point.

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                Reddit atheist would be a few steps up here. This is the kind of teenage edgelord “atheist” that gives the rest of us atheists a bad name.

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                Oh no a godless atheist!
                I’m a backward american, what will I do, I can’t hadnle that?

                And this is what you clowns call ‘progressive’ LOL