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    I dont think we have demonstrated enough that we dont want to die. And by demonstration i dont mean politely asking anymore (standing around in a group holding signs and maybe chanting something). Or maybe we just secretly truly want to die, since only smallest fraction of the population cares to attend even the rallies…

    People in power should have to deal with unrest related to this all day every day, that is the only way they will do anything about it. Or maybe they will start cracking down on people without doing anything to the climate, but that would just prove that they truly want us dead.

    Peacefully asking for change is a mistake if it doesnt work after couple of tries. Or at least those in power should be made to respect those who ask nicely first, but that doesnt come by asking nicely either.

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      So there is clearly an evil in the EU because of captured institutional power. But everyone is still cheering expanding the same EU as far eastward as it will go. There is a form of double think here: EU is evil, but EU is unquestionably good, and any action to spread it is unquestionably benevolent and worth any price.

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    They’ve been sitting on their hands about climate change for 40 years, I doubt that another heatwave will change much.

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      Putting this on “the EU” is extremely unfair. EU did way more than rest of the world. Yes, it’s because it was in a privileged position economically but comparing EU’s response to USA you can clearly see who treated it seriously and who was trying to derail it all the time.

      The sad truth is that it’s the people that were actively fighting all the policy meant to mitigate it. People love to bitch about paper straws and caps that are attached to the bottles but then act surprised the government didn’t do anything more substantial.

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      See, it wasn’t a problem when projections said it would happen after their lifetimes

      But whoopsie!

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      It baffles me that they ruined cars with ridiculous climate regulations, yet we’re still getting burned alive by the heat.

      It’s almost as if there’s something that pollutes way more than the consumer car that is being almost completely ignored because bil oil would suffer too much.

      I wonder what those things are. If only there was independent research that were easily accessible by the relevant climate change prevention orgs…

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      Just wait til it rains for more than a day, everthing about the heatwave will be forgotten immediately and people will complain that it’s too cold and wet.

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        It’s a bit cloudy today to be honest. Massive hoax, everything’s fine. Let’s roll some coal!

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        with the current weather situation, I HOPE there will be a massive rain- and thunderstorm over here.

        the soil is so hard and dry, anything beyond a little spray of water will end in a flood like the Ahr valley. That would actually wash many of these people away…

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          As much as I don’t want people to suffer, but if we get a “century flood” every year for 5 years in a row MAYBE people will start to think and vote for a gouvernment focused on climate protection

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            that’s exactly what I’m talking about.

            A single freak-weather event is a tragedy. But if it happens again and again, people maybe start to see a pattern and listen to reason again. That way we can enable them to FINALLY do the stuff that make a change.

            Sadly, most humans don’t learn from reason or logic. It takes pain and suffering of some kind for them to embrace real change. Be it monetary pain or actual loss of anything they can feel. Yeah, I wish there was an easier and less impactful way, but from what I learned - that’s idealistic dreaming.

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        I have a ton of devices that have USB-c plugs but don’t work with USB-c chargers at all. They only work with USB-c to USB-A cables and USB-A chargers.

        Shit’s stupid.

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          This actually calls for more standardisation then less. Unless you believe it would be good to only have one specific charger for each device…

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    EU Commission response: cutting air conditioning to floors below the seventh because Ursula and her minions are from eighth up.

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    I first learned about the concept of climate change when I was in sixth grade or so, reading a magazine about futurology that my father had. That must have been in 1980 or so.

    I then became an applied physicist and have studied about and worked in clean tech.

    I see the left picture of OP with that horrific temperature anomaly.

    I am just sad and kinda speechless. This is a deadly monster.

    I am not talking about giving up.

    The people in Warsaw’s Ghetto did not give up. The people in Ukraine don’t give up.

    We cannot give up either. It is a question of human dignity. We are no cattle.

    But what do we do now?

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      You fight, brother. The billionaires are the ones destroying the planet by building data centres that our communities were never built for. They fly private jets that spew a car’s lifetime of fossil fuels into the atmosphere every day. They deforest native areas (whether legal or not. Whether in your home country or abroad) and strip-mine areas so they cannot be rehabilitated.

      Gather your friends who think like you and plan to luigi some billionaires - it’s the only way we can slow this down until the scientists and engineers develop a way to reverse the process.

      Make no mistake, the global shadow oligarchy WANTS this. They know there is no future for them in the world - once the working class woke up to their bullshit, they decided to destroy it all along with themselves because they have a “if we cant rule over it, nobody can have it” and the greedy politicians who saw dollars were happy to expedite the process.

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    The same lobbyists that bought every other government have already bought this one. It looked good for a while though.

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    Georgia is a not an EU member. Ukraine and Moldova too. Why is it presented as such in the picture?

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          Wikipedia

          Negotiations with Turkey were opened in October 2005,[2] but have been effectively frozen by the EU since December 2016,[3][4][5] due to backsliding in the areas of democracy, rule of law, and fundamental rights.

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            This is not a revocation of the candidate status. And doesn’t answer Balkan exclusion. And if candidates are included, why are EEA/EFTA/Schengen countries excluded? This map makes zero sense.

            EFIT: Just realized its adriatic sea not balkans, my bad

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              The map includes applicants, candidates and candidates currently negotiating… which are in the link i posted.

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        Definitely not. None of the countries currently having candidate status belong into the EU. They are all economically weak countries which would end up getting more money out of the EU than they would pay into it. The finances of the EU are already strained, we can’t afford giving out even more money.

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          I disagree. I think it’s good to keep all these countries close. Would be best with multi-tier EU system.

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          obviously in a euro-nationalist board the question of climate catastrophe ends up on a discussion where to expand the empire next.

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                No. It’s a dysfunctional union, where everyone needs to play games because of local politics. But everyone wants to join, because it’s still better than being anywhere else. So the expansions are not only voluntarily, but people almost beg to get in. Central power is symbolic.

                Iit’s not empireish in any way.

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    And so, one cannot help but suspect that this is all intentional; as unbelievable as it may sound, the price is a good life for a select few, while the rest simply doesn’t matter. A thousand excuses: if I don’t do it, someone else will; I can’t save the world; I was just following orders, carrying out an assignment, or closing a deal. There are too many people anyway—who cares? Yet who lives long enough to actually benefit from it? No one (though that isn’t how far ahead any of them are thinking).

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      There’s a video of Epstein and Bannon talking about climate change as population control to some rich people, very casually. I’m sure it’s a widespread idea.

      Crazy to think. All of moral philosophy was developed before the threat of humanity ending climate change. Used to be evil emperors at least wanted 1000 year empires for their offspring. Nobody ever even had the power to go “but I’ll be long gone by then.”

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      if I don’t do it, someone else will

      What do you suggest to make a change?

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        Make better policy. For the people, not the corporations. And if someone can’t manage that, then at least don’t be an a**hole—instead of working for the few. It’s that simple. (Politicians!)

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    The useless corrupt mouth breathers can’t even bother stopping the time changes every summer after more than 80% of people consulted said it needs to stop.

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      We absolutely need to have the freedom lever set to the max with this one, all these problems have the “dictator efficiency” crowd coming out the woodworks

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    So programs will be developed to fund greening of economies that produce goods/extract resources that are imported to the EU? And the real cost of producing these items will be reflected in their prices?