Wait, who colonized Argentina? And wait who was first to the Falkland Islands? I genuinely don’t understand why you think Argentina wanting the Falkland Islands has anything to do with opposition to colonialism.
Does Argentina belong to the Spanish? Why do you think Argentina should take them? Who lived in Argentina before the Spanish came? Who lived in the Falkland islands, nobody.
It doesn’t matter who lived there first, because I’ll swear on the King’s life that the Brits weren’t first
Also, “who lived in Argentina before the Spanish came?” Maybe the people living there tens of thousands of years before European colonialism hit their shores?
Are you saying there were no indigenous people in what is now Argentina when the colonists came? Just a simple search for “indigenous people of Argentina” delivers ample evidence that there were.
Conclusion: “rightfully British”? The law seems to be whoever smacks the other in the teeth and takes it by force, so I suppose that’s accurate.
However, having had a settlement in the island, Argentina’s claim is as valid as the UKs, and they just got smacked in the teeth so my verdict is that Argentina takes over administrative control over the Islands up until such time as they meet again in a world cup.
No one should colonise anything. But the difference between Argentina and The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland (God save the King) is as vast as, well, the distance between London and any point in South America
Because “sail around the world and claim what you want” is fucking great if you’re playing Monopoly. Less great to sort out world affairs in a modern world.
But if the islands were empty before? Like there’s islands who have thousands of years of history of people living there. But then there’s also those who just doesn’t. Are they supposed to stay empty? All humans always bad, or something?
Ah, yes, the fact that prehistoric Fuegians may have visited the Falklands surely means they’re the birthright of Argentina. Airtight anti-colonialist explanation.
Literally no one was there when France landed there, so you can either a) ask France and Spain for their thoughts, b) resurrect the Fuegians who visited and let them have it, forcibly deporting the people who’ve lived there for centuries, or c) disregard pragmatism and say they aren’t part of any country – either way, you can stop obnoxiously trying to defend Argentina’s baseless colonialist claim under the guise of “anticolonialism”.
To the extent it belongs to anyone, it obviously belongs to the UK far more than it does to the asshurt losers who flaccidly tried and utterly failed to assert sovereignty over it.
So if no land belongs to anyone, the only people who’s opinion should count are the people actually fucking living there, no? Who want, pretty much universally, to remain under uk rule. Who owns the bit of rock is far less important than the thoughts of the population that live there. And they think “fuck off argentina”
Opposing would be free Malvinas or something like that.
The native population of the Falklands is arguably the British people living there. Who have clearly stated their preference to remain part of Britain. While Argentina’s plan to displace and deport them, and replace them with Argentinians, is literally genocide and colonialism.
Respecting the native inhabitants’ wishes is anti-colonialism.
Sore losers even when they’re winning.
Opposing colonialism is being a sore loser now?
Wait, who colonized Argentina? And wait who was first to the Falkland Islands? I genuinely don’t understand why you think Argentina wanting the Falkland Islands has anything to do with opposition to colonialism.
Argentina supports Israel and has an ancap president. They aren’t anti colonial.
Australian New Car Assessment Program? What do they have to do with this?
Anarcho-capitalist. The end state of muh free marketz morons.
Please recount to me the tales of how the Falklands war ended up going in the 1980s. I’m fascinated by your take.
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Sure as hell the fascist military Junta wasn’t right. I can tell you that.
Genuinely can’t tell which militarily force you are supporting.
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You are aware that the first inhabitants of the Falklands were French? There was nobody to be colonised.
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That’s certainly a theory.
You must be American
Yeah they colonised some penguins… Got em
Please explain to me how this is opposing colonialism? They want to colonise the Falklands themselves.
They sure as fuck don’t belong to England
Does Argentina belong to the Spanish? Why do you think Argentina should take them? Who lived in Argentina before the Spanish came? Who lived in the Falkland islands, nobody.
It doesn’t matter who lived there first, because I’ll swear on the King’s life that the Brits weren’t first
Also, “who lived in Argentina before the Spanish came?” Maybe the people living there tens of thousands of years before European colonialism hit their shores?
Really? Who were they? Is there any evidence whatsoever to back this claim up?
Are you saying there were no indigenous people in what is now Argentina when the colonists came? Just a simple search for “indigenous people of Argentina” delivers ample evidence that there were.
We’re talking about the Falkland islands, Argentina wasn’t colonised by the British.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peopling_of_the_Americas
This doesn’t show the Falkland islands were populated?
They’ve belonged to them for over 200 years, I don’t see why they don’t.
Let’s recap islands history:
Deserted, no permanent population.
French set up a settlement.
English makes another, fight the French.
Spain buys French port, fights British.
Britain leaves.
Spain leaves.
Deserted, no permanent population.
Argentina sets up a settlement.
England comes back, fight them off.
Conclusion: “rightfully British”? The law seems to be whoever smacks the other in the teeth and takes it by force, so I suppose that’s accurate.
However, having had a settlement in the island, Argentina’s claim is as valid as the UKs, and they just got smacked in the teeth so my verdict is that Argentina takes over administrative control over the Islands up until such time as they meet again in a world cup.
Thatcher’s dead and buried, defending British imperialism isn’t going to get her to sleep with you
You’ve still not explained why Argentina should be allowed to colonise it and Britain shouldnt.
No one should colonise anything. But the difference between Argentina and The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland (God save the King) is as vast as, well, the distance between London and any point in South America
Because “sail around the world and claim what you want” is fucking great if you’re playing Monopoly. Less great to sort out world affairs in a modern world.
But if the islands were empty before? Like there’s islands who have thousands of years of history of people living there. But then there’s also those who just doesn’t. Are they supposed to stay empty? All humans always bad, or something?
There weren’t “people” in the New World, so colonizing it was totally cool /s
OK so now YOU’RE equating humans to literally just birds and plants
You have to be one of the dumbest people I’ve ever interacted with on this platform, and that’s genuinely saying something.
You’re completely unable to make a coherent case for your beliefs, and all your arguments basically amount to “it just is”
Good luck with life, I guess.
Eh, nobody else was using them for anything.
The islands are on the continental shelf.
OK, so?
There’s evidence of pre-Columbian Argentine peoples using the island.
Ah, yes, the fact that prehistoric Fuegians may have visited the Falklands surely means they’re the birthright of Argentina. Airtight anti-colonialist explanation.
It certainly doesn’t belong to the British.
They belong to me.
I have as good as a claim on the Islands as Argentina.
Literally no one was there when France landed there, so you can either a) ask France and Spain for their thoughts, b) resurrect the Fuegians who visited and let them have it, forcibly deporting the people who’ve lived there for centuries, or c) disregard pragmatism and say they aren’t part of any country – either way, you can stop obnoxiously trying to defend Argentina’s baseless colonialist claim under the guise of “anticolonialism”.
To the extent it belongs to anyone, it obviously belongs to the UK far more than it does to the asshurt losers who flaccidly tried and utterly failed to assert sovereignty over it.
No land “belongs” to anyone, least of all to the asshurt losers who flaccidly tried and utterly failed to keep their empire alive
So if no land belongs to anyone, the only people who’s opinion should count are the people actually fucking living there, no? Who want, pretty much universally, to remain under uk rule. Who owns the bit of rock is far less important than the thoughts of the population that live there. And they think “fuck off argentina”
So pre-Argentine as well?
Isn’t that promoting colonialism?
Opposing would be free Malvinas or something like that.
The native population of the Falklands is arguably the British people living there. Who have clearly stated their preference to remain part of Britain. While Argentina’s plan to displace and deport them, and replace them with Argentinians, is literally genocide and colonialism.
Respecting the native inhabitants’ wishes is anti-colonialism.
It’s not real colonialism. It’s Sparkling Regime Change.
What regime did the English change when they showed up to an uninhabited island a few hundred years ago?
Nature’s /s