Norway and Switzerland are EEA countries. Part of the inner market, not part of the customs union, no euro and no representation in the commission or parliament. Adopts most legislation.
There are shit ton of low level participation from Norway and Switzerland in AdCo’s, Group of Experts, CEN and other sub groups and working groups. So makes perfect sense to include them.
Tbh. I have no feelings at all for the issue. You on the other hand seem to have plenty.
I don’t know about the UK, but I talk to my Swiss “colleagues” in several arenas (including EFTA) whereas I haven’t seen anyone from the UK since Brexit.
To me from my low perch Switzerland seem much more integrated than the UK.
The again Iceland is not included in the infographic, and they are an EEA member
Switzerland is in continental Europe, the UK isn’t, and the FOM was always very asymmetric. Most Brits chose Canada, New Zealand or Australia to move to, even when still in the EU.
This is very wrong. The level of integration between Switzerland and the EU is almost at the same level as a full member. While the UK told everyone to go fuck themselves. They aren’t even in Schengen for fuck’s sake.
Switzerland has more than 120 agreements with the EU, including being part of the Schengen area, the UK is just getting started of having the first few in place. The UK also made it a political sticking point that they are not EU members for the past few years, kinda going against the ideal of ever closer European integration.
Voting to leave the EU and therefore Eurostat and then going onto the internet a few years later to complain that Eurostat didn’t include the UK in one of their statistics is really something.
Switzerland and Norway are not in the EU either. All 3 non EU countries in Europe make up 25% of GDP.
They signed an agreement 2 years ago, they should put the data in for comparison.
Maybe they have political instructions, they really want to say the UK has been damaged by Brexit, but the actual stats, not bullshit models, tell a different story
Edit. This isn’t Reddit, your downvotes don’t censor me in any way. Lol
Taken together, independent assessments paint a consistent picture: Brexit has reduced UK GDP (estimates commonly span roughly 2–8% to date, with central academic estimates clustering around 6–8% by 2025), slashed business investment (commonly estimated down 12–18% by mid‑2020s and in some scenarios far larger over decades), and trimmed productivity (roughly 3–4% in many studies and up to 4% in OBR scenarios), and they identify trade frictions, uncertainty and misallocation as core drivers—facts that point to policy levers on trade facilitation, investment incentives and productivity reforms if the UK seeks to narrow the gap with its peers [2] [4] [1] [3].
damn near all economy experts agree on a negative, long-term impact fo the UK economy. they just can’t be entirely sure how bad it was, just that it was quite bad.
single digit percentage points don’t sound too bad, but when it’s entire percentage points pf an entire economy that actually works out to billions in lost economic activity.
the stats you provided do not show any comparison to a no-brexit/remain scenario, which is what should be compared.
Or maybe the brits didn’t submit any data? If you’re spouting conspiracy stuff of political instructions to surpress british interest, please provide some sources.
When this data was recorded, the UK was not in the EU and did not have an agreement to share data with Eurostat. This is equivalent to complaining that Mercosur doesn’t show the UK in its data
It absolutely is. At the time of the data being recorded, the UK was not a member of either organisation and did not have an agreement to share data with either organisation.
UK stats are being shared again with Eurostat, there’s no reason to leave us out if Norway and Switzerland are on there
Norway and Switzerland are EEA countries. Part of the inner market, not part of the customs union, no euro and no representation in the commission or parliament. Adopts most legislation.
There are shit ton of low level participation from Norway and Switzerland in AdCo’s, Group of Experts, CEN and other sub groups and working groups. So makes perfect sense to include them.
Switzerland is not in the EEA. This is just a fact you don’t like.
They have bilateral agreements, same as the UK does
Tbh. I have no feelings at all for the issue. You on the other hand seem to have plenty.
I don’t know about the UK, but I talk to my Swiss “colleagues” in several arenas (including EFTA) whereas I haven’t seen anyone from the UK since Brexit. To me from my low perch Switzerland seem much more integrated than the UK. The again Iceland is not included in the infographic, and they are an EEA member
Switzerland is in continental Europe, the UK isn’t, and the FOM was always very asymmetric. Most Brits chose Canada, New Zealand or Australia to move to, even when still in the EU.
This is absolutely correct.
This is very wrong. The level of integration between Switzerland and the EU is almost at the same level as a full member. While the UK told everyone to go fuck themselves. They aren’t even in Schengen for fuck’s sake.
The Swiss have more bilateral deals. The UK has a lot in one.
We’ve never been in Schengen.
We should have defaulted to EFTA as that’s where we were when we entered the common market. The EU changed a lot in 1993, we didn’t sign up for that.
Switzerland has more than 120 agreements with the EU, including being part of the Schengen area, the UK is just getting started of having the first few in place. The UK also made it a political sticking point that they are not EU members for the past few years, kinda going against the ideal of ever closer European integration.
They are still not in the EU or EEA. My point stands.
Take a look at the source - there is no UK data being reported by Eurostat
https://blog.ons.gov.uk/2024/10/09/arrangement-marks-a-new-era-of-statistical-cooperation-with-eurostat/
The most recent data on the source is 2024 and that agreement is dated late 2024. The UK is not in the 2024 data
For the most recent year that there is UK data for, 2018, we were slightly below France
Everyone else manages to include the UK, OECD, World Bank, IMF etc.
Just petty eurocrats. Leaving out the 2nd largest economy is pretty daft.
You chose to be left out. You don’t get to bitch about others respecting your decisions.
I do though. Doing it right now. Try and stop me.
It’s a shit map, badly labeled and incomplete.
Try to*
Voting to leave the EU and therefore Eurostat and then going onto the internet a few years later to complain that Eurostat didn’t include the UK in one of their statistics is really something.
Switzerland and Norway are not in the EU either. All 3 non EU countries in Europe make up 25% of GDP.
They signed an agreement 2 years ago, they should put the data in for comparison.
Maybe they have political instructions, they really want to say the UK has been damaged by Brexit, but the actual stats, not bullshit models, tell a different story
Edit. This isn’t Reddit, your downvotes don’t censor me in any way. Lol
yeah, nah, brexit did have a major negative Impact on the UK economy:
damn near all economy experts agree on a negative, long-term impact fo the UK economy. they just can’t be entirely sure how bad it was, just that it was quite bad.
single digit percentage points don’t sound too bad, but when it’s entire percentage points pf an entire economy that actually works out to billions in lost economic activity.
the stats you provided do not show any comparison to a no-brexit/remain scenario, which is what should be compared.
Estimates are not facts. Stick to the facts. The UK has performed exactly the same as France and Germany post Brexit
All these wank estimates you cling onto are just models. Where is the control?
Or maybe the brits didn’t submit any data? If you’re spouting conspiracy stuff of political instructions to surpress british interest, please provide some sources.
They signed a deal in 2024 to continue submitting stats, these are the facts. Draw your own conclusions
Switzerland and Norway actually ARE “in the EU”. at least more so than the UK.
they are both Schengen countries.
there are multiple levels of EU membership, and the UK has none.
that’s why those two are included and the UK is not.
They are not in the EU. Norway is in the single market, Switzerland is not.
Keep downvoting facts though lol
When this data was recorded, the UK was not in the EU and did not have an agreement to share data with Eurostat. This is equivalent to complaining that Mercosur doesn’t show the UK in its data
It’s not.
It absolutely is. At the time of the data being recorded, the UK was not a member of either organisation and did not have an agreement to share data with either organisation.
It’s not the equivalent of being involved with a terrible trade deal like mercosur
The chart has no year, or what the units are
Or Turkey for that matter. Although it is nice to have a certified shithole on here for comparison.
The UK is not in the EEA though
Neither is Switzerland
they kind of are (from Wikipedia, too lazy to look up the government source):
The non-EU member states of Iceland, Norway, Liechtenstein and Switzerland participate in the single market but not in the customs union.
Switzerland is not in the EEA. It has access to the single market via lots of bilateral deals, same as the UK.