Relations between the U.S. and the Catholic Church have not been the same since January, when senior U.S. defense officials shared an abrasive message with a Vatican official.

Days after Pope Leo XIV delivered his State of the World speech, Undersecretary of Defense for Policy Elbridge Colby summoned Cardinal Christophe Pierre, the Vatican’s U.S. representative, to a closed-door Pentagon meeting for a bitter lecture.

“The United States,” Colby said, according to a blistering new report by The Free Press, “has the military power to do whatever it wants in the world. The Catholic Church had better take its side.”

    • captainlezbian@lemmy.worldEnglish
      7·
      2 hours ago

      Well, they’re clearly aware enough to feel threatened by it, given that that’s all the power the Vatican holds

  • FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.worldEnglish
    52·
    3 hours ago

    LOL

    It’s fascinating that the Pope gets threatened for being critical of Donald, and not, you know, facilitating an international child trafficking ring.

  • tirateimas@lemmy.ptEnglish
    53·
    6 hours ago

    There you have it, if you had any doubts that the US has been taken over by a bunch of crazy people. In their words, they can do whatever they want, but they barely accomplish a thing.

    • CatZoomies@lemmy.worldEnglish
      25·
      4 hours ago

      Barely accomplish a thing?

      What are you talking about?! Didn’t you see that the Dow was over 50,000 for a time period? Why are you laughing?

      Trump was also gifted a glorious jumbo jet that we are using as Air Force One for the remainder of his term! And afterward, they said (on record by the way) it will be donated to the Trump Library! That’s how much they respect us!

      And also, we ended the Iran war that they started! Look what they made us do to them! And we got— uh… what did we get again for winning? Anyway, we won and the straight thingie, the thing that we need to open? Hormel reopened (and they’re great by the way), where we put the oil is now ready to oil for us less price gas for all Americans now hence. We’re winning for days, so the Catholic Church needs to pick a side - and from my point of view, the Jedi are evil!

    • HugeNerd@lemmy.caEnglish
      15·
      5 hours ago

      Uh, you think they’ve been taken over just recently? Trump just exposes what’s been going on for decades through his borderline personality disorder.

      • Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        4·
        2 minutes ago

        Yeah, the falacy that over a hundred million of people in the US just suddenly woke up and decided that they wanted their country to be controlled by a derranged multi-millionaire extremelly high on the Narcissist spectrum parroting near-Fascist and outright Fascist ideas, doesn’t hold up to even the most cursory logical analysis.

        Only tribalist supporters of the “other party”, who thus desperatelly want to believe their tribal chiefs are not at all to blame in any way form or shape for America going down the path that led to a double Trump victory, will cherry pick and twist “evidence”, and be very selective in the logical explanations they’re willing to consider, to create logically-sounding (for the unthinking) theories that exhonerate their own chiefs that are so beyond real Logic that they’re akin to using “Magic” as explanation.

        The field from were votes for somebody like Trump were a bountiful harvest has for decades been plowed and fertilized by American politicians and by American billionaires using the Press and Think Tanks their own.

  • humanspiral@lemmy.caEnglish
    21·
    3 hours ago

    The Church started/was named by a global empire. By the time of Constantine, who would preside over Church commandment debates from the Pope’s throne, Jesus’s peace/humanism was erased from the church in favour of old testament’s divine right of emperor to kill and steal. Heresy laws applied to interpreting bible as humanist Jesus instead of the blessing of warmongering.

    Pope really needs to undo the pre dark ages warmongering changes to Christianity. Jesus was a reformer. Yahweh a demon son that usurped his father El. Jesus’s father god was El not Yahweh.

  • kbobabob@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    71·
    6 hours ago

    It’s cool. None of this really matters anyways with the whole separation of church and state.

  • Scubus@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    38·
    9 hours ago

    In what fucking world does it make sense that i ally myself with the pope. I hate this timeline

      • Godric@lemmy.worldEnglish
        19·
        10 hours ago

        In this day and age, literally anything sounds like it could be true, so I try to take some especially inflammatory things with a healthy grain of salt.

        Also, with a suspiciously generic name like “Free Press”, you bet I’m looking at your credentials!

    • a4ng3l@lemmy.worldEnglish
      5·
      5 hours ago

      Yeah not the usual breed are they? I’m from a catholics family and the horrors they enable are absolutely alien to the principles I grew up with. They whole of them would be ripe for hell if that was a thing…