What are you talking about? You really can’t see how this is just an expression of what the lawyer is describing? Transgender people aren’t allowed to exist. Texas literally has a law on the table right now to make it a felony, “gender fraud,” to not use your assigned at birth pronouns. Wake the fuck up dude.
“Males and females are different” = transphobe to you guys lol. Just like “Nazi”, being called a “transphobe” isn’t something anyone even blinks an eye about anymore because it’s lost all meaning.
Have they improved their electric and other utilities so that they don’t collapse in the slightest breeze? Or are they still doing stuff like this as a distraction
This executive order by trump literally acknowledges people with gender dysphoria and excludes them from the military. It’s not saying “trans people don’t exist”. It’s saying they DO, and they’re excluded from military service.
It seems like maybe you don’t. Please explain to me how what I said is wrong? If their position is that trans people don’t exist, how can they ban them from the military?
The same way banning the use of pronouns other than those assigned to you constitutes erasure. It’s about restricting or removing rights until either it’s a crime to be a certain way and/or people are too scared to come out anymore
Can you please answer in the context of what we’re actually talking about? This EO does not “claim trans people don’t exist” which was the lawyers statement. This EO is saying that trans people are excluded from the military - how can it do that while also saying trans people don’t exist? That makes no sense. They need to exist in order to exclude them.
It’s not saying “gender dysphoria is not a diagnosis that exists anywhere” it’s saying “believing yourself to be transgender is a substantial enough mental illness and flaw in character so as to preclude military service.”
This claims that having gender dysphoria is some sort of deficiency, and not just a non-standard identifier. This invalidates the identity of trans people, and calls into question their legitimacy.
It’s literally acknowledging their existence - the exact opposite of what some, including the lawyer, are saying.
Like it or not, gender dysphoria is a mental condition. Your brain is telling you that you’re “born in the wrong body”. That’s not saying its a bad thing, just that it is a thing - like anorexia where your brain tells you that you’re fat when you’re not.
The debate around which mental conditions make you not able to perform military service is definitely something that needs to be delved into more, but that doesn’t stop an administration from making a decision to start from.
No, I have. You’re just too stubborn to accept it. You made up your mind long before this conversation. No answer i give will be enough. You’ve decided they’re fine based on your textual interpretation.
You’re defending bigots. It’s a bad look and I don’t want to talk to you anymore. Have a good one.
What are you talking about? You really can’t see how this is just an expression of what the lawyer is describing? Transgender people aren’t allowed to exist. Texas literally has a law on the table right now to make it a felony, “gender fraud,” to not use your assigned at birth pronouns. Wake the fuck up dude.
They are a transphobe. Even tagged then as such the previous time they tried to pass off their hate as “just stuff everyone knows is true”.
I wouldn’t bother.
Edited to add: Yeah, see reply, they just keep going. “If being transphobic makes me a transphobe then words have lost meaning” is… Well, something.
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“Males and females are different” = transphobe to you guys lol. Just like “Nazi”, being called a “transphobe” isn’t something anyone even blinks an eye about anymore because it’s lost all meaning.
Gender fraud, seriously? What’s wrong with these people?
Seriously
Have they improved their electric and other utilities so that they don’t collapse in the slightest breeze? Or are they still doing stuff like this as a distraction
Fuck you freedom says you freeze
Disgusting. I hate this timeline.
The only laws that matter are ones that are actually laws, not proposed laws. That proposal isn’t going anywhere
Even if it did, it’s still not saying trans people don’t exist.
Yeah I remember saying that about gulf south abortion laws.
This executive order by trump literally acknowledges people with gender dysphoria and excludes them from the military. It’s not saying “trans people don’t exist”. It’s saying they DO, and they’re excluded from military service.
You really don’t understand how this works do you?
It seems like maybe you don’t. Please explain to me how what I said is wrong? If their position is that trans people don’t exist, how can they ban them from the military?
The same way banning the use of pronouns other than those assigned to you constitutes erasure. It’s about restricting or removing rights until either it’s a crime to be a certain way and/or people are too scared to come out anymore
Can you please answer in the context of what we’re actually talking about? This EO does not “claim trans people don’t exist” which was the lawyers statement. This EO is saying that trans people are excluded from the military - how can it do that while also saying trans people don’t exist? That makes no sense. They need to exist in order to exclude them.
It’s not saying “gender dysphoria is not a diagnosis that exists anywhere” it’s saying “believing yourself to be transgender is a substantial enough mental illness and flaw in character so as to preclude military service.”
This claims that having gender dysphoria is some sort of deficiency, and not just a non-standard identifier. This invalidates the identity of trans people, and calls into question their legitimacy.
It’s literally acknowledging their existence - the exact opposite of what some, including the lawyer, are saying.
Like it or not, gender dysphoria is a mental condition. Your brain is telling you that you’re “born in the wrong body”. That’s not saying its a bad thing, just that it is a thing - like anorexia where your brain tells you that you’re fat when you’re not.
The debate around which mental conditions make you not able to perform military service is definitely something that needs to be delved into more, but that doesn’t stop an administration from making a decision to start from.
I said what is happening. Legalese nonsense is not a substantive argument nor does it undo what they are attempting to do. This is erasure.
OK so you can’t show how this “denies that trans people exist”. We got there in the end.
No, I have. You’re just too stubborn to accept it. You made up your mind long before this conversation. No answer i give will be enough. You’ve decided they’re fine based on your textual interpretation.
You’re defending bigots. It’s a bad look and I don’t want to talk to you anymore. Have a good one.