His behaviour sure doesn’t help.
If we survive Trump. We will be weaker in so many ways. The institutions that underpin our democracy have been severely damaged. I also expect a severe economic downturn over the next few years.
I worry that the next Republican President will be younger more calculating and energetic. They will look at the Trump era as a blueprint for taking permanent political control of an already damaged system.
One thing I am certain of:
The next Republican president will be worse.
I can’t or won’t even begin to imagine how that could be possible.
Trump is evil and stupid, someone worse would be evil and smart, and there’s plenty of those around.
President Steven Miller
Trump will be the most hated; and this makes him an ideal President for his financial enablers.
Trump made Bezos, Gates, Musk, et al ridiculously happy. He’s easy to manipulate, greedy, serves their interests… and best of all, he acts as magnificent misdirection and takes a lot of blame for things he’s really too dumb to have anything to do with.
Around the world, people will sigh with relief when he’s dead… but those who financed and empowered him will be untouched and unacknowledged for the most part.
For just one example, Deutsch Bank.
That entire worldwide system of billionaires and financiers will remain, and continue to bring ruin
I think W Bush painted the world black and white when there is nuance. You’re either with us against us. Started two very unpopular wars and dragged Nato members in. Caused mass immigration to Europe from leading to the raise of people like Bannon, Trump and Farage. The entire far right really. For me, Bush was the catalyst that led us to where we are right now and is the worse president. But even I think I am wrong cause my memory doesn’t go back much further.
And worse of all. Bush didn’t even win. Roger Stone literally stormed the recount, Bushes brother shut the count down and the supreme court went cool, cool, cool. Been hating ever since the shocking lack of democracy in America. And the fact that some anti abortion Gun nut in some swing state determines how many of my friends will die in wars, how much petrol will cost and how much food will cost due to sheer greed of the owner class in America.
So for me. Bush 2. Trump just let the world see the corruption in day light where the others kept it in the dark.
I still think Reagan takes the title.
I think reagan did the most lasting damage
Reagan deserves every ounce of hate he gets. I dont wish dementia on anyone except him. Rest in piss.
He was the worst at the time but Trump is far worse. Trump’s corruption is unprecedented. Reagan would be called a communist if he ran today. Reagan’s answer to Americans complaining about illegal immigration was amnesty and legal permanent residency for all.
Reagan was crazy enough to sit down and work with people like Tip O’Neil (democrat speaker of the house). I can’t imagine any republican doing that now.
They sit down and work with PACs all the time.
There’s no fucking way Bush is worse than Trump. It’s not even close.
No child left behind leading to a nation without critical thinking. Guantanamo bay. Imprison who the fuck you want without consequence. Making it law to invade the ICC if any American soldier is ever held to accountability. Crashing the entire global economy by relaxing laws on banks and investors. I mean Bush was pretty awful. Trump is just dumb as bricks walking in the same path set by Bush.
its not a contest and its pointless to think otherwise. Anyone who thinks positively of either is an uneducated degenerate dumbass who should never vote in any election until they completely update their worldview at best
I say people like Rupert Murdoch and Roger Ailes seeded the culture that led to the modern right wing.
He made Canada hate him. That puts him up there.
He actually threatened our biggest ally and biggest border for no reason at all. Totally nuts.
Canada hated both Bushes. We hate Bushes so much CDN women shave their beavers.
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You can go almost anywhere on Earth and say “I can’t wait to read that obituary” in the local language, and people will know who you’re talking about. We haven’t had that since Hitler
He’ll still have fans after he is gone, just like there are old men who still pine for Stalin and Hitler.
I don’t think so, just because his rich friends are doing everything they can to manipulate masses to like him and protect him. Those loyal to him also will die being loyal to him. As he said, he could shot someone cold blood and not lose voters.
Truman’s 22% approval rating is also hard to beat, even though history has looked more fondly on him.
Some presidents have arguably done worse things than Trump (so far), but I’m not sure if they were more hated at the time. Trump has probably done more damage to the institutions of the US than any other president in history; which will probably result in a new dark era.
I don’t know about domestically, but if you look at him at an international level, he’s a slam dunk for that title.
I think when future history books are written about the downfall of America they’ll be entire chapters dedicated to his contribution to the collapse.
Yes, worst president in the history of the United States. Policy decisions that are actively sabotaging the future of the next generation.
Generations
In a contemporary sense or in a historical sense?
Obviously the latter is virtually impossible to determine but I suspect he’ll be somewhere in the top 5.
Just as obviously he’s #1 in a contemporary sense. There is a lot of hate for Obama from people who swear they aren’t racist, but moderates and Democrats like/love him. I feel like Biden is universally slightly disliked. I think Bush Jr. is similar. Clinton’s probably between slightly disliked and slightly liked.
Trump, on the other hand, is between vilified and slightly disliked recently (thanks to the Iran War and the Epstein Files). Sure, lots of people pretend to like or love him in public, but I think that’s usually performative to align with political allies as you’re virtually obligated to do under authoritarian rule. Just look at how few MAGAs turned out for America’s 250th. They just aren’t enthusiastic about him any more.
I think it goes from disgust and hatred to embarassment, forced acceptance and ego defense (don’t admit you were wrong).
I suspect that’s true for quite a few of them.
I kinda wonder if he’ll end up like Nixon. The people who still like him will “forget” about him.
They’ll pretend they never supported him
At least Nixon did some good things (EPA, opened up to China).
he’s a convenient scapegoat for those who need him
As if when he dies anything , at all, will change.
He’s probably up there but I’d be very wary of recency bias.
