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    Fiero wins again!

    It might sometimes be on fire, but unlike a cybertruck you can put it out!

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    Never been able to be sold outside of the US, including Europe or Asia because it would never pass the safety test, says it all.

    It also says something about the American safety tests and laws. Americans are so afraid of Chinese cars that pass all safety tests but this unsafe monstrosity roams the streets?

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      America only cares about the people buying cars.

      Those pedestrians can either buy Canyoneros of their own or go die with the poor.

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    Capitalism turning electric vehicles into a horrible, unproductive, ugly symbol of right wing fascism is wild as shit to see in my lifetime.

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      Car manufacturers promoting fascism are sadly a thing though. Ford loved Nazi ideology and let’s not even mention German brands.

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        It kinda makes a lot of sense I feel that they’d fit together. You have a form of transportation that is dangerous enough that requiring government licensing is generally agreed to be desirable, meaning that if its the primary option, a government can effectively take away a person’s ability to participate in public life or make a living, and easily justify it on safety grounds. Cars are expensive, so a government can both funnel money to its partners in private industry by promoting them, and subsidize them for the populations it considers “desirable” as a means to seem like it has created abundance and luxury (see how how the VW bug came to be for example). And, a society built around cars is one that tends towards physical separation and isolation between people (because of space inefficient infrastructure and relatively quick travel outside of densely built areas), which promotes distrust of others. Thats not to say that cars are inherently fascist or that most people that promote them do so to benefit that sort of ideology, but that if I was some kind of fascist dictator seeking to control a population, Id probably want to push them into buying and relying on cars.

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          Wouldn’t fascists, to the definition, want a cohesive nationalistic society and identity? Fascists want a strong nation.

          The Nazis promoted cars because nobody really had a car and they were coming out of a depression, they wanted to pump up their manufacturing industry for economic benefit and it was also a good excuse to build manufacturing capability for war. Cars were therefore very nationalistic, owning a car was good for Germany and German jobs.

          Pushing for cars in most places does not benefit national industry, and pushes money and jobs offshore.

          I feel like cars could only be potentially seen as a fascist tool if one were to ramp up national production of cars and tariff or ban imports of cars from other countries

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            Seems to me that it’s much easier to create a single cohesive nationalistic identity by destroying every other place where people can find identity. Which often involves groups of people interacting and finding ways to work together.

            Bit like how people with few real life social connections are much more likely to fall into parasocial relationships.

            Also a bit like the isolation step before the abuse starts.

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    Probably because the are so noticeable, but I see 2 or 3 of them on my way to/from work. Hard to tell them apart, but that is a lot in the 20 miles I go.

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    Fun fact: the stainless steel body panels cannot effectively be repaired or refinished to insurance company standards, so if something should happen to even just cosmetically damage one of the main body panels, the entire vehicle is unrepairable and totalled.

    This is one of several reasons why the things are extremely expensive and difficult to insure. And, of course, it tells you how to do your part in making them even more expensive and difficult to insure.

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      On the second part, why don’t you just leave peoples vehicles alone? I mean I dont like Nissans either, but I’m not out laying subtle hints to damage people’s property because I don’t like them. That doesn’t make anyone sympathetic to a cause, it makes them more steadfast for whatever you are against. Absolute 1d thinking.

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        Hm. Maybe forming some kind of"flange" with holes in it on the edges of the body panel that you could use to secure it with a fastener of some sort … like clips and screws! Perhaps even plastic “push fasteners” that are easy to remove with a flat screwdriver!

        Brb, going to patent this original idea that’s never been done before.

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      I’d be more worried about the aluminum frame. Aluminum under cyclical stress will fatigue and eventually catastrophically fail. It’s why airlines have to constantly test aluminum parts so they can retire or replace them before they fail. It’s only a matter of time before cyber trucks start breaking in half while on the highway. It’s almost like there’s a reason no car manufacturers have made unibody frames out of aluminum before…

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    How common are these in the rest of America? I see them pretty often here in SF but assume it’s just a techie Elon stan thing.

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      I’m not in America, but they are fairly rare where I live (Canada). Like if I go for a drive in traffic on a commute, I maybe will see one or two at the very most. And it’s usually the same ones that I am seeing when I do see them.

      I mean the market for a vehicle that’s >100k, looks like the truck you drew as a child when you were asked to draw a truck, that has almost zero utility and almost certainly has to be awkward as fuck to drive and park due to its width and size, I mean that market is right next to zero. My seven year old is pretty into them though.