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          if it’s a partnership with microsoft, imo it’s an awful idea… to me it reads as:

          everyone knows linux is secure AF… way more secure than windows in many contexts, so it sets you up in the “wait this is BS” mindset

          the logical next step that you make, imo, is that the argument that closed source is more secure than open source in other contexts should be viewed with similar scepticism: office/libreoffice, onedrive/nextcloud, etc

          (which is true: closed source software is often far more insecure than open source software)

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            I don’t think everyone now anything about Linux, most people don’t know about computers in general.

            This is to me most likely targeted at those (alias Anna) how know someone (alias Bob) how knows about this (or similar). Bob tells Anna to install Linux because Windows 10 EOL, Anna says “no Linux bad because reasons, plz install Windows”, or some such.

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    A little off on the lines of code… it’s only around 20 million. I’d be a little worried if there was billions of lines of code, it would be unmaintainable slop.

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      LOC doesn’t inherently make things unmaintainable slop, as long as you have strong abstractions (which Linux certainly does)

      one could argue that most Linux distros have billions to trillions of LOC and their abstraction is packages, which are kinda a level of abstraction higher than libraries, which are just a level of abstraction higher than a folder of util functions

      things being “not my code” doesn’t mean it’s not part of your system

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      Hey! I just finished beta release of my brand new AI developed word processor! It’s a single python script with just under 1 million lines of code! Isn’t that great?!!! 😸

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        Well, he is in Finland, which is as much as “next” to Russia as you’re going to get.

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          The border between Finland and Russia is 1,340km long. This has helped them become best of friends. They especially like to cuddle for warmth in the winter.

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            The nords and Russians have a long history of friendship. Here’s a representative friendly competition in sauna.

            On 7 August 2010, two competitors were removed from the sauna and brought to the hospital in critical condition after six minutes of 110 °C (230 °F) heat, both suffering from serious burns and trauma. Russian finalist and former third-place finisher Vladimir Ladyzhensky, an amateur wrestler, was dragged out, suffering from convulsions, burns, and blisters.[5][8] Ladyzhensky died despite resuscitation. Finnish five-time champion Timo Kaukonen was, according to a spectator, able to leave the sauna with assistance.[9] He was reported to suffer from extreme burn injuries and his condition was described as critical but stable.[10][11] Kaukonen’s preparation included hydrating meticulously and growing his hair long enough to cover the tips of his ears, making them less likely to burn.[6] Just a few minutes before the finals, Kaukonen told the Norwegian newspaper Verdens Gang that the saunas used for the 2010 championship were a lot more extreme than the saunas used for previous competitions.[12] As Kaukonen and Ladyzhensky were disqualified for not leaving the sauna unaided, Ilkka Pöyhiä became the winner.[13]

            The organizer, Ossi Arvela, said that there will probably never be another sauna competition. Two days later the City of Heinola noted that there are no official decisions about the future of the event, and the decisions would be made after the incident has been examined.[14] Arvela later reported that Finnish police had decided not to file charges in connection with the tragedy, but were continuing to investigate.[8] Kaukonen woke up from a medically induced coma six weeks after the event. His respiratory system was scorched, 70% of his skin was burnt and eventually his kidneys failed as well. In late October, Kaukonen was reported to be recovering quickly. He did not blame the organizers for his injuries.[15]

            Ladyzhensky’s autopsy concluded that he had died of third-degree burns. His death was aided by his use of strong painkillers and local anesthetic grease on his skin, which was against the rules. Kaukonen was competing according to the rules.[16]

            On April 20, 2011, the City of Heinola announced that they would no longer organize the event, noting that “If the city was to organize the World Sauna Championships in the future, the original playful and joyous characteristics of the event should be reintroduced. No ways to achieve this have been found.”[17]

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    Keep in mind if you transition to Windows you will need to relearn a few things! Lots of your software might have issues and I sure hope you have Nvidia because AMD is straight to broken with all their open source code. Yuck!

    Windows is just better (I use Windows 11 PRO BTW) because you get lots of background processes and there’s even a copilot that’s right about stuff sometimes. Microsoft even keeps a backup of lots of your data up in something called a Cloud, which I assume is good because clouds are up there in the sky like heaven!

    I sure hope 2026 is the year of the Windows PC!

    (/s cause writing this joke hurt my soul)

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      I’ve been looking at switching to Windows, but it’s always the horrible gaming experience that holds me back.

      For starters, compatibility is complete ass. Windows doesn’t let you choose the compatibility tools and forces you to run every game (every application for that matter) in the systemwide environment. It also only has a single wineprefix-equivalent that just dumps everything in your home directory folder (please don’t crucify me). If a game requires a different Wine version, you can try to set that half-assed compatibility mode thing on the executable, but I’m convinced it’s only there as decoration. If it doesn’t work, you’re kinda fucked.

      Windows also lacks the minimal set of utilities that I expect from a system that can run games. There is no Bubblewrap and you can’t sandbox your games without using a VM. There is no gamescope, nor any way to run an application inside a nested graphical session. If an older game can only do exclusive fullscreen, you can’t switch to a less intrusive (windowed/borderless) mode. If a game does have borderless or windowed mode, but doesn’t support your native resolution, you’re playing in a tiny window or not at all.

      Windows 11 seems really neat, but it’s not ready for general adoption. There are just too many missing features.

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        From a programmers and workflow perspective windows is complete garbage. It does not allow me to change my WM. Im stuck with the default behaviour without the ability for full customisation like Hyprland or Sway have. Installing Programms is deeply unintuitive. Have to search for a Programm, download it from a sketchy looking button and run an installer. Software providers often enough don’t even provide sha256 sums. How can I be sure, that I downloaded the correct executable? Even if a hash is provided, most people won’t bother to check it. These are elementary flaws that hinder widespread windows adoption.

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      My friend, that was a true effort to channel the spirit of pure evil. I hope you’re OK. Do you need some tea?

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      My friend tried to install Windows after trying Linux for a year and he couldn’t find a driver for his hard drive. I also warned him that he may end up playing League again and divorcing his wife.

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      I’m very surprised some moron didn’t take you seriously and downvote that comment, even with the caveat. This is Lemmy, after all.

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    It would genuinely cause worldwide panic if the Windows source code leaked, and that brings joy to me

    … until I realize I still have Windows because I still haven’t moved to linux

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      If it’s because you’re worried and not because you have proprietary software you need that’s keeping you tied to it, Mint was super duper easy for me to install (I’ve never installed Linux before) and it’s been essentially out of the box compatible with the games I play since most are already optimized for the Steam Deck.

      If it’s the software thing, sorry man, my spouse is in the same boat.

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        Seconded. I started with PopOS but wasn’t sold on it, so quickly switched to Mint and it was perfect. Once my wife test drove on my installation, she gave it a shot on her laptop, and now she gets frustrated when she’s forced to use Windows for her college test proctoring spyware she has to use.

        Here’s a link for anybody curious to get started. I like Cinnamon. Just download the OS and flash it to a flash drive, boot into BIOS, select the flash drive to boot from, and you’re testing a live version of the OS. If you like it, you can install through pretty easy install wizards. It doesn’t pester you to buy shit like Windows does. And there’s a safe and easy app store for most of what you’ll care about, and it just works. It gets the fuck out of your way. And if you have issues, just google it and you’ll probably find somebody already figured out the solution and shared it with plebs like us.

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          This is the way. I always recommend people to get their feet wet with the live boot. I’ve been using Linux for almost 3 decades. Live boot is the easiest way to find out what will work for you. I’m not a Mint user, but it’s great for the people who like it; best part about FOSS.

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        If it’s the software thing

        There’s a fair few projects working towards getting windows software to work in Linux beyond wine. WinBoat and bottles to name the two I use frequently. I set-up WinBoat for my wife because office360. Took a little bit of fiddling with settings for WinBoat to run nicely on her 2017 MacBook air with a Ubuntu derivative OS…but it works as it would on windows…so poorly.

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            FL Studio was the reason it took me so long to ditch windows. Try bottles. Don’t bother with the automatic configuration, just install it in a default gaming setup. Very minor tweaks got it working better than in win11 on my laptop.

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          Worst comes worse, one could install a VM with Windows. And for the edge cases where neither VMs or compatibility layers suffice, the user can install Windows on a different physical drive and plug it in just when needed.

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            WinBoat is essentially a VM, but it runs in the background and you can add installed programs to your hotbar/start bar/desktop. So that’s neat.

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        It’s judt about time, I need more storage devices to transition… I need to setup windows alongside it too… Generally a mess. And yea I want to go with Green Ubuntu lol

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        I convinced my spouse to give it a try on our family laptop. I installed Mint and she never complained. Granted, if there is something more involved that needs installing or fixing she relies on me but I think this isn’t so different if it were Windows. She seems happy using it all these years on a device that otherwise would have to be written of as scrap due to Microsoft shenanigans with 10/11 compatibilities, but the machine works as if brand new. Also our kid grew up using it. He knows basic usage and I glee in the fact he has never used Windows so far in his live.

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      It has already been leaked a million times because they sell the source code to governments and anyone (well, at least up to Windows 2000 which was the last decent version).

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      Some years ago I think windows source was available to be studied in some universities? No sure how true that is and if any recent version is available. Sure would be fun if the slopmachine just ingested all of it…

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        I think it was that the XP source was leaked. There was a huge deal because those who saw it were highly discouraged from contributing to wine.

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          those who saw it were highly discouraged from contributing to wine.

          Can you expand on that a little?

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            The potential for copyright infringement (or at least the appearance of copyright infringement) would be too high. Better to keep a “clean room” approach in the wine project to avoid attracting Microsoft’s ire.

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            WINE is a compatibility layer (famously, WINE Is Not an Emulator) for Windows APIs on posix OSes; most notably this allows you to run Windows applications on Linux.

            Microsoft would truly love to beat WINE to death with a legal sledgehammer but so far they do not have the legal ground, as WINE is developed based on public knowledge and Microsoft famously keeps their source code closed.

            If you saw the Windows source code, and then you contributed to WINE, it is possible Microsoft could make the legal argument that WINE was using stolen trade secrets, even if the verbatim source code was added to the WINE codebase.

            Whether or not that would have worked for Microsoft is up in the air; but the WINE project didn’t want to find out the hard way.

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          The source code for windows has always been fairly widely available among industrial actors (provided suitable NDAs were signed). So, nothing exceptional there.

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        The entirety of Windows XP was leaked and people even managed to build it from source. This was after XP being EOL though.

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      Gut feeling, but I think the panic would last 2 days. Then issues would be found and unofficial patches would be made faster than fire spreads in dry folliage.

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    Al those Linux geeks with their tails between their legs as they go back to the secure windows environment. Whose smug now guys? Hope your Linux subscription has a refund policy.

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    I knew it, this is not just crossing the line by allowing linux as open source, it also leaked the code for every body, out of line in every way!