I swear, when someone’s talking to me now, I can barely understand what’s happening. I know I’m no spring chicken anymore but I wish I was 16 again lol when I experience things it’s like it’s a memory or like I’m at the back of my head. It’s hard to explain. Every thing here is getting gradually worse over the years. Suffice to say, I’m not looking forward to my 40’s…

That being said I feel like I’m making a big deal out of something most women my age just get on with and put up with for the rest of their lives without complaining

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    Not that I’m taking this thread very seriously based on the other comments… but other than seeing a doctor, have you tried the obvious things? The things you are describing are not a 30 year old thing. You are way too young to attiribute all of those things to age.

    • Exercise (very important). Get your steps in. Get a watch or something and count em.
    • Eat a proper, balanced diet. Don’t calorie load before bed, eat throughout the day.
    • Go to bed at a decent hour, whatever that is for you. Make sure you are getting at least 8 hours. Women typically need a little more.

    I’ve known a few people that have all your symptoms, and the common denominator is that they are all extremely sedentary and take 0 accountability for their own health. They somehow expect a doctor to fix a problem only they can solve with the things I mentioned above.

    If you’ve been seeing a doctor for years and aren’t doing any of the things I’ve mentioned, you are wasting your time.

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    Anybody else got a Déja-Vu? I remember some months ago some person describing these kind of symptoms and all the comments told OP that’s bs. Then OP said they did all tests and everybody was wrong. I was here before!

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      I got a déjà-vu from last week. Same person I think, but I’m not a 100% certain since they deleted their old posts. They’ve already been told extensively that this is not age related.

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          This just seems like good old cognitive dissonance to me. This article calls this specific kind of cognitive dissonance “belief perseverance”, which seems very apt: https://philosophy.institute/epistemology/addressing-unjustified-beliefs/

          *A reasonable question arises: if unjustified beliefs are so clearly at odds with the evidence, why don’t people simply change their minds when confronted with facts? The answer lies in understanding that rational belief revision is not merely a matter of receiving new information. It requires that the evidence be recognized as relevant, assessed without distortion, and allowed to actually alter the existing belief structure – each of which is complicated by the mechanisms described above.

          Confirmation bias means that contradictory evidence may not even be registered at full strength. The availability heuristic means that striking supporting examples continue to feel more representative than they are. And the psychological costs of belief revision – the discomfort of cognitive dissonance, the threat to identity – create a strong motivational force pushing back against change.*

          The entire article is well worth a read imo.

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    Have you seen a psychologist? Might also be somatizing of mental issues. Some symptoms there are symptoms of mental illness. How’s your general lifestyle and diet?

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    get checked for a UTI STAT. that is not aging.

    I’m well past that age and im not experiencing even half of what you listed there. go see a doctor. like now.

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    I’m about to turn 40, no one I know has experienced this at 30, much less 40. You have something else going on, this isn’t aging, like we have all told you before.

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        The fact that you have these symptoms indicates something is going on. If the tests say everything is normal, then they are missing something

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          So much was tested and I’ve listed off the top of my head a bunch of things that were tested. What do you suppose they could be missing?

          Without getting my magazine-thickness stack of lab result papers I had them print out, I’ve had TSH, hb1ac, potassium, sodium, urea, LH, FSH, prolactin, DHEA, testosterone, androgens, b12, folate, ferritin, full blood count, full white cell count, IgA, calcium, estrogen, ca-125, cholesterol, etc tested.

          My white cells have been low since the testing began, but I was told this is normal because as you age your immune system declines.

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            I already read what you just copy and pasted. I’m not a doctor. I don’t know what is wrong with you. But if they run tests and tell you everything is normal, then the appropriate response is to say “I don’t care if the tests say everything is normal, I still feel like shit.”

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                Of course your family has told you to stop complaining. Hearing someone moan about their poor health is annoying and boring. We don’t want to hear about it either, hence all the comments you are getting here telling you to stop making posts trying to normalize your clearly abnormal condition. We don’t know what is wrong with you and can’t help you. You need to see a doctor. If the doctor tells you everything is normal, tell the doctor that they suck big fat donkey dick at doing their job and tell them to refer you to a doctor who isn’t phoning it in.

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                  Changing doctors won’t change the fact the lab results will keep coming back normal, as they have done over and over and over since summer last year.

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    You’ve already made a similar post and people have told you to go see a doctor. What more do you want?

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        If you have the ability to see other and new doctors you should take the opportunity to do so. No doctor has ever told you this is normal for being in your 30s

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          They’ve ran loads of bloodwork tests on me. Only thing that came back low is my white cells, but I was told that’s normal because as you age your immune system declines, after your teenage years.

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                  Off the top of my head, without getting my magazine-thickness stack of lab result papers I had them print out, I’ve had TSH, hb1ac, potassium, sodium, urea, LH, FSH, prolactin, DHEA, testosterone, androgens, b12, folate, ferritin, full blood count, full white cell count, IgA, calcium, estrogen, ca-125, cholesterol, etc tested.

                  My white cells have been low since the testing began, but I was told this is normal because as you age your immune system declines.

                  What do you suppose they are missing? There’s very little to miss, it would seem.

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    Girl…I don’t know what to tell you other than I have bad news for you. I have narcolepsy and this is my every day. This is definitely an undiagnosed medical condition for you.

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      I have, and was told everything’s normal. I’ve had full blood counts, hormone tests, vitamin and mineral tests, the works.

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        Get used to that. Doctors didn’t care about any of my symptoms until I could no longer walk. They only care about what they can see

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          It’s not about what they can see. I’ve had bloodwork done, and I’ve seen the lab results for myself since I requested to have them printed. I’m no longer going to pursue this because at this point it’ll be like I’m a hypochondriac unhealthily obsessed with her health. I’ve got other things to do in my life. I just need to get on with it and cope with it.

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            Surely you must understand that the most basic blood tests can’t find everything that can be wrong. There are thousands of tests

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              Off the top of my head, without getting my magazine-thickness stack of lab result papers I had them print out, I’ve had TSH, hb1ac, potassium, sodium, urea, LH, FSH, prolactin, DHEA, testosterone, androgens, b12, folate, ferritin, full blood count, full white cell count, IgA, calcium, estrogen, ca-125, cholesterol, etc tested.

              My white cells have been low since the testing began, but I was told this is normal because as you age your immune system declines.

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                The standard lab ranges are defined by “at least some people don’t show symptoms of deficiencies or issues or etc at these levels,” not “everyone is guaranteed to be fine in these ranges.” I was “in range” with B12 until I started developing nerve damage from a deficiency of it, with years of symptoms leading up to it that were ignored because I was “in range.” I was “in range” with folate, because the standard lab tests inactive folic acid and not active folate. I was “in range” with ferritin, and yet had significant improvement from taking more iron. I was “in range” with potassium and then ended up in the ER multiple times from hypokalaemia so bad that I could barely move.

                You get the idea. “In range” is not the same as “will get no benefit from supplementing it,” but it’s the kind of thing that ideally is done with proper medical assistance if you think you’re deficient in things.

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            If you’re a hypochondriac, it’s because you’re inventing these symptoms. If you actually have them, it’s an actual problem.

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              Hypochondria can also include having normal symptoms but making them out to be more of a big deal than what they really are. For example, there’s lots of men who will call a cold “man flu”. That’s a form of hypochondria since most people get colds but deal with them.

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                There’s more recent evidence that men’s immune systems can be more deeply impacted by flu viruses, causing aches and pains all over their bodies that women don’t usually experience.

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                  Its more than that. Women have a significantly better immune system, and I’m jealous up until the massively increased likelihood of autoimmune disease. Almost all autoimmune diseases occur in women. OP should really look into autoimmune issues.

                  I know a 20yo woman who has advanced MS with similar symptoms to what she has.

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            That’s gonna eat into your mental health in the long term. Better be careful!

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        I don’t have a solution, but just wanted to say that doctors can be very unreliable.

        I’ve been told that I’m the textbook case of a healthy man in my late 20s, all the while suffering from balance issues, surprise naps, confusion, weakness, and inability to properly parse speech some 1-4 days of the week.

        Obviously one should still listen to the doctors, for who else can we rely on, but to me your situation sounds very “normal” which is definitely not a good thing!

        Perhaps get a second opinion by a private doctor? I’m considering it by now…

        Best of luck!

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        And it took me twelve years to get treatment for andometriosis after monthtly crippling pain. It took me another seven for an ADHD diagnosis. Doctors are mostly shit, especially to women.

        You want support for this? Fine. But stop phrasing it like it’s a normal part of aging as a woman.

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        I dunno if you want a reply from a guy.
        I am on meds that have some wild side effects, I know what they are and I can deal with them on small amounts.
        At no point have I dealt with more than 2 of them at once.
        At no point are they any where near anything you have described.
        If they were, I would complain and hopefully change meds or change doctor.

        You need to continue getting help.
        You need to get medical help. Professional help. Not Fediverser.

        Some of these may be “normal” (I dunno, I ain’t a gal), but all together they are not. And they are affecting your life , so SOMETHING is wrong.
        You have enough of a list (as well as enough conviction to argue against the popular comments)… Sounds like you have enough evidence and conviction to find a doctor that can actually help you.
        Keep trying, keep working to get help.

        Hypochondria is still a medical condition, it can still be treated.
        But I don’t believe (not a doctor) it actually transverses physical conditions like back pain and vomiting.
        So maybe it’s both? Mental health is still medical.

        Seriously, don’t give up of actual qualified medical help. Keep trying, keep going until you are happy.
        This is key: keep going until you get the help you need

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    FYI, this person has posted this same question over and over, and hasn’t seemed to absorb any of the answers.

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    Maybe do a sleep study. Lots of undiagnosed sleep apnea around this age. It gets worse over time. Even if you don’t snore.

    edit: feeling déjà vu. Did i recommend this to you before? Either way, most of this is definitely not normal or age related.

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      Everything’s normal, though. I’ve had vitamin, blood count, and hormone tests and was told this is all normal. This is something I’m just going to have to get on with, but I was asking for advice to manage/cope with the things I mentioned.

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        All I can say is, I’m a woman over 40 and if I experienced those symptoms for even one day I would see every doctor in the state until they figured out what was wrong with me. But it’s your body, not mine, and you should live how you want to live.

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          Are you 100% sure you’re not experiencing those symptoms? It’s possible you’ve gotten so used to them that your brain’s filtered them out. I know someone who had issues with his spine, and while the issue that would be causing pain is still there, he no longer feels it because he’s used to it.

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            I am mid thirties and have not experienced anything remotely like that and would be very concerned if I had.Throwing up when you wake up is not normal, neither is this extreme lethargy. You’re 32, not 80

            Some of this seems neurological which is concerning and can be harder to get diagnosed. You could ask for some kind of neurological tests or imaging if you haven’t had that yet?

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      I’ve had multiple opinions and all have come to the same conclusion. Einstein once said the definition of insanity is repeating the same thing and expecting a different result, and I’ve done that enough already because I have a stack of papers about a magazine’s thickness in lab results.

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        I’ll just hop in and mention that I have chronic illness that never shows up on any blood test. You cannot test for the conditions I have. It was an extremely difficult process to get any help or taken seriously. Doctors would do the standard tests and be like, well you look ok. But I was extremely not ok. Nobody would help me or care though.

        I went through the same phase mentally as you. “Well if everyone is saying I’m fine then I must be fine and just lazy or a hypochondriac.” Dragging myself to work. Passing out while standing. Unable to function. Actively deteriorating month to month. Until one day I crossed a threshold and had a serious life changing medical event, that I still haven’t recovered from. My body forced me to listen, and the severity of my symptoms couldn’t be brushed off anymore.

        If nothing else, pay attention to whether your condition is getting worse, or staying the same. If you’re getting worse, please consider seeing a specialist.

        25 years is how long it took me to get a diagnosis.