I knew they were big bears but not TWICE A HUMAN size! I didn’t even google this image for the polar bear I wanted to see how big a black bear is.

guess I’m never going to Antarctica!

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    Arctus = “Bear”, Anti = “against” in ancient Greek, or “opposite” in modern meaning.

    Arctic = bears are here

    Anti-arctic = opposite bears, or “no bears”.

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      Has absolutely nothing to do with actual bears though.

      The name comes from the constellation Ursa Major, which in Greek was Arktos Megale. Both mean the Great Bear.

      Basically it just means north and not north because the Ursa Major constellation has the North Star in it.

      It does just kinda work out that bears are in the northern hemisphere and not the southern hemisphere. There’s only one bear native to the southern hemisphere, the Spectacled Bear native to the Andes mountain in South America. There are no bears native to Africa or Oceania at all.

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      This has come up before on lemmy.

      Wouldn’t a better translation given the context be something like the place opposite to the place where there are bears? It’s not like the Greeks somehow intuited that there was such a place and that there would be no bears there.

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        It’s the place opposite /ursa major/ (the great bear constellation, in the northern sky.) The name has nothing to do with actual bears (that’s just good luck.)

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        I saw this before somewhere and a commenter said they didn’t actually know if there were bears or not in these places when they named them. This had more to do with the constellation Ursa (bear) major/minor (north star). But works out to being a nice mnemonic.

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      So did the Greeks traverse the whole planet? Like the idea isn’t too far fetched but it’s just weird to think about Mediterraneans traveling to the arctics

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    I’ve studied bears for a while now. There’s actually a proven strategy for fighting polar bears. First you dodge to the left, then jump as high as you can and punch them in the eye. By the time they realize what’s happened, it’ll all be over and you’ll be opening your eyes, hoping you prayed to the right god

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    They’re northern Hemisphere, not Antarctica. We have them in our province (Manitoba), but yes they’re big. On average tho not quite as big as the painting there shows.

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      If one of the average sized ones rises up in front of you and roars, I bet it would look just as big as that painting.

      Can anyone confirm? Probably not.

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        Yup, Not many people get the opportunity to see one up close and live to tell about it, unless there’s something REALLY solid in between them. Like that Nat Geo guy in the cage. https://youtu.be/U-S4NbX5IYE They’re absolutely terrifying up close…

        They don’t typically roar tho, unless they’re fighting or f…uh screwing. And they’re not scared of anything.

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      I knew it! Seeing them in a Zoo many years back I got the impression they were pretty big but not THAT massive.

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        I think the painting shows the largest they’ve found, not the norm. It’s like showing Robert Wadlow (The tallest guy in the world at 8 ft 11.1 in (2.72 m) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Wadlow) to show the size of humans. Yes we can get that large, but it’s an extreme example.

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          Just let it happen. If someone is looking at my stat sheet Im not going to complain if they say I can run 100 meters as fast as Bolt did in the Olympics. *limps to the kitchen…

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    I think the sizes shown are probably biggest specimen. Black bears can get pretty big, but I’ve never encountered one that was taller than me.

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      I saw a black bear in Virginia crossing the street on a polite Tuesday mid- morning a few years ago…the god-damned thing was as big as I imagined grizzly bears are…it was huge.

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    If it’s black, fight back. If it’s brown, lay down. If it’s white, say good night.

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      The “say” makes it three syllables while the others are two so it doesn’t flow

      “if it’s white, good night” flows better and it’s more to the point since it’s shorter anyway

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    I think the artist took some creative liberties with this. I’m not sure exactly how big a polar bear or a grizzly is, but that black bear is freaking huge!
    I guess that I could imagine one getting that big, but that has to be the absolute max of an absolute unit of a black bear. The John Henry of black bears.

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      According to Wikipedia the largest on record was over 7ft tall, they don’t have average heights listed but some other BS site said they range from 4-6.5 ft so it’s large but apparently not too incredibly so.

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    I will say, those bears represent the upper end of the ‘weight ranges’ for those 3 species. Average sizes would be a bit less.

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    Theyre pretty much the very top of the food chain. They say there are multiple apexes because of different environments but id bet on a polar bear over a tiger or lion probably. Idk if its an accurate assesment tho.

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      Imo, the ladder goes:

      Rest of the terrestrial animal kingdom < Bengal Tigers < Polar Bears < Hippos < Rhinos < Elephants < Honey Badger.

      That’s as far as the ratio of animal capability to fuck something up divided by willingness to kick something else’s ass goes.

      I actually think the Tiger and the Polar Bear are fairly close in terms of power and lethality, and it would all come down to whether the Tiger had the opportunity to stalk, which it probably would avoid doing anyways to something the size of a Polar Bear.

      I still do not know where Honey Badger rightfully belongs on Earth’s tourney ladders, so I rather err on the side of caution there in case one reads this.