For weeks, Trump and members of his administration, some of whom spread anti-Democratic conspiracy theories about Epstein, have been trying to quiet the MAGA base after the FBI declared there was no client list and that the disgraced financier died by suicide. The same manosphere that boosted Trump isn’t letting his administration off the hook on Epstein, even as Trump has tried to dismiss the whole thing as a hoax.
The young men in his base aren’t doing better economically, and also feel stabbed in the back by Trump’s refusal to RELEASE UNREDACTED COPIES OF THE EPSTEIN FILES.
Imagine being a young person who’s so fucking dumb they couldn’t immediately tell that Trump is a worthless piece of shit the first time they saw him
Well, it’s a lot harder when you grow up with brainless parents that constantly extoll the virtues of being rich on you. Then it’s pretty easy to assume some rich asshole is good aktually because they’re rich. Yes, it’s tautological. Yes it’s stupid and wrong. Yes many, many americans are stupid and wrong and believe being rich is a virtue itself.
Cosigned - me, because this shit you just said is absolutely on point.
This is what I absolutely despise about western culture, especially in the US. The grindset. Everyone just wants to be pointlessly wealthy. Accumulating wealth has become something of a gamescore now, and everyone needs to be grinding these fucking coins to rank high on the leaderboard when they die.
People are no longer happy, too busy running after the gilded carrot.
Being rich is nothing to be impressed by. When rich people use their money to help people, that’s something to praise them for
Ehhhh even that should be questioned pretty hard. If they’re just pulling a Mr Beast and making more money by doing a facsimile of charity work, or merely making a “charitable donation” so they can deduct a bunch of taxes, then they’re still kinda’ being a money-grubbing shitstain.
Should they be thanked anyways? Sure, I guess. Though what you shouldn’t do is view them as a good person for it. That’s just perpetuating the, “money is a virtue” thing.
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I feel like for a lot of people they thought the status-quo was so dogshit that they voted to burn it all down, so to speak.
Notwithstanding the fact that the American status-quo is actually pretty damn good compared to most of the world and propaganda influenced people’s opinion on that.
I could buy that for the first term. But now? You gotta be dog shit stupid.
Yes. A lot of people are dog shit stupid. We need to do something about that.
That might have been an excuse in 2016, but sure as Hell wasn’t one in 2024!
I remember being young and looking at all US presidents in disgust… mind you, these were bush Clinton, etc, they were all trash presidents and horrible human beings. I distinctly recall throwing a pair of scissors at my tv in disgust when Clinton was talking. Left a nice scratch on the glass. Even he was absolute trash.
Trump? I still cannot comprehend how any sane person of any age above 5 can look at that shit stain and not see an absolute horrible narcissistic monster.
Propaganda is a helluva drug
Man, this guy will sure regret alienating all these people the next time he runs a totally fair election!
Young angry and disillusioned men with guns are a problem regardless of if there’s an election. They’re unpredictable and known for their electric shotgun approach to interacting with leadership
If he doesnt get 240% of the votes like that liberian guy, i dont want him as president /j
Sadly this just means Trump wasn’t far right enough for them. They’ll listen to whichever Nazi sounds “bout right” to them next and it’ll just go on and on like this until…
What are they gonna do? Not vote for him again? I don’t think Trump gives a shit.
The young men in his base aren’t doing better economically
Cry me a fucking river and drown in it.
I’m fairly young myself, 33. College years are still somewhat fresh in my mind. I like to think of young people as really open-minded and enlightened. But young people are also fucking idiots and very impressionable. Check out the YouTube channel “ranting for vengeance” to see a teenager who is mind-bogglingly ignorant. Who raised this fucker? I hate to insult a child, but man, this kid is so prejudiced it will render you speechless.
Not gonna give them views.
Sadly, I think the leopards are only beginning to lick his face.
Unless you mean his followers are getting their faces eaten. Then…
Yes, the young men who followed Trump in 2024 are becoming disillusioned and discouraged by their continued financial problems and broken promises about smashing elite pedophiles. Their lives are still miserable, and their heroic crusade seems to have ended without a satisfied conclusion.
The Bush to Obama to Trump to Biden to Trump Again pipeline is roller-coaster. But I’m afraid it really does exist.
Plenty of lay voters ping-pong between whichever political leader is popular or trending, because their media of choice is more interested in spinning out an exciting, engaging narrative than building any kind of ideology or class character within the audience. Trump was going to “Drain the Swamp” in the same way Obama was going to “Yes We Can” and Bush was going to “Restore Honor and Integrity To The White House”.
The end of this ride is just burnout. People getting whiplash from being dragged liberal/conservative/liberal/conservative by their nose for too long and just growing cold and cynical. This lasts until a sufficiently exciting media campaign juices them back up again for one more rug pull.
If you’re hoping that there’s some subset of people who are Getting What They Deserve, you’re falling into the same trap that gave us Trump to begin with. You’re losing any kind of faith in a better country or a better kind of politics and just settling for “I hope my ideological opponents are miserable”.
The people who really won the Trump '24 campaign are the ones currently crawling into the brains of Third Way Democrats like a worm RFK picked up off a dead dog’s carcass. They’re not suffering. They’re not going to lose the next election cycle, no matter what happens. They won’t be the one’s getting their faces eaten. They’ll just change out their skins for a new set of spots.
It’s even simpler than that: “Vote the bum out!” is all you need. It is, after all, much easier to oppose than to govern.
That’s the impulse. Not even necessarily a bad one. But you can’t vote all the bums out if they’re on both sides of the ticket.
Not with THAT attitude!
Epstein files exposed to them he was not on their team.
Otherwise he is doing what he promised and they like it.
I mean… cool, I guess. Kinda too late to make any difference, though. The time to figure out Trump was a narcissistic tyrant was before voting for him.
No it’s not. We’ve seen headlines for 10 years saying this or that group are starting to sour on Trump, and yet here we are.
Right now, their “declining” support is based solely on the Epstein files. Which means that they’ll continue to support fascists as soon as Rogan, Peterson, etc al, can convince them that the Epstein files have been released and were never that interesting, or that maybe we’ll never see the Epstein files but that’s old news and something else is way more important now.
My bet is on the latter, since that’s just a matter of less time spent talking about the Epstein files and more time spent talking about [distraction].
lol “voters”
In my opinion, don’t blame the young voters for their choice. At least not entirely. They’ve been getting spoon fed propaganda by the internet, their parents, and the news their entire lives. Blame the parents that made everything their kids were doing a political issue from the moment they were conceived. Blame the platforms that have been incentivizing hate on their platforms for money. Blame the corporations that have been actively brainwashing people since the era of social media began. Blame the news for never telling the truth and making everything a spectacle.
People have agency. Don’t take that away from them.
The flip side of this is that it has to be praiseworthy to pass through that gauntlet and still care about other people. Eclusively negative incentives don’t work.
This would matter if they voted, but since they don’t, who cares?
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