• fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com
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    Easier communication. Thousands of people each living far apart had no way to amplify each other. Immigrants were mostly centered around cities, thus the rural divide.

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    Because their lives are shit and they need somebody to blame.

    The right will accept a boot on their face as long as they’ve got a face on which to rest their own boot.

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    General population was always anti immigrant but the ruling class was smart enough to understand they needed immigration to sustain the growth. What changed is that everyone got so dumb they don’t know what’s in their best interest anymore.

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    The “fuck you, I got mine” mindset aka FYIGM or getting first dibs.

    That is, kicking out the ladder or destroying bridges or cutting off reach so that no one else is getting what one has achieved. Like, “I got first, you’re getting nothing!”

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    America was never accommodating. The only thing immigrants had in common was hating black people.

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    Anti-immigrant sentiment is nearly universal across human cultures. It’s a form of tribalism/fear of “the other”. Just look at the backlash against arab refugees in Germany and Sweden, or the relatively recent tightening of Canada’s immigration policy which used to be one of the most liberal in the world, for modern examples. Historic examples are even easier to find.

    In general, we see more anti-immigrant sentiment in a country due to (a) the general population feeling insecure for some reason, (b) the perception that immigrants are immigrating faster than they are integrating.

    When times are good and people feel secure, they look back at the past and say to themselves “look at how great our society is - we welcome people from all over the world, and now we have korean-mexican fusion. Yay, us!” But then when times get harder and people feel less secure, they say “these goddamned Nigerians keep coming here and taking all our video-editing and corporate accounting jobs! And they chew with their mouths open and have annoying laughs. And on top of that, their food isn’t even that good. They’re the worst, stop letting them in!”

    Immigration is part of the mythologizing of the United States, but that doesn’t except it from the great overarching trends of humanity.

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      More broadly, it’s all Tribalism.

      You’ll see it at many levels, not only towards the “outsiders” in nation terms (and examples are not only the anti-immigrant discourse but also in the discourse mainly blaming a country’s problems on some “foreign power” or other, in both cases as if insiders didn’t have vastly more power than such outsiders) but also at various other tribal levels (race, political party, region, city and even town in so-called “small town” environments).

      The human tendency from Tribalism will turn even otherwise “good people” (but not very competent when it comes to introspection or having a strong keen sense of what is Just) into mindless “us vs them” drones who are easy to manipulate into blaming outsiders for the outcomes of the actions of insiders especially because they tend to believe any old bollocks from the “chiefs” of their tribe.

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    People hated immigrants DURING the time period you’re thinking of. And it wasn’t always a skin color thing either, the Irish were one of the big targets for a long time.

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      Italians were also targeted. Being from a Catholic country was sometimes enough to get targeted. Always found it funny (Woody Allen marriage funny, not Woody Allen film funny) that the Protestants who came to what is now Massachusetts seeking “religious freedom” meant it only for themselves and drove out anyone who didn’t subscribe to their views.

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        You need to put it in context, many if not most of the denominations that came to America seeking religious freedom did so because continental Christians considered them extremists. So yes, they were seeking it only for themselves.

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      And it wasn’t always a skin color thing either, the Irish were one of the big targets for a long time.

      Irish, Slavs and Italians were not considered white, so … it’s still a “where is the migration from” kinda thing

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          That isn’t what it means at all. It has nothing to do with the Irish skin color.

          Blacks were hated for being black for so long that when new people came to America and got the same hate and racism. They were just “black”.

          Black is being used here as just a catch all term for “not real white people”. Irish weren’t considered white for decades.

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      It was always racism at it’s core.

      European immigrants accepted immigrants as long as they were other European immigrants. At the same time they were encouraging immigrants, they were systematically eliminating the original inhabitants or forcing them to assimilate to European culture.

      It’s always been a variation of white nationalism … they don’t mind the world becoming more open and inclusive … as long as it only includes other white European people and cultures.

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        European immigrants accepted immigrants as long as they were other European immigrants.

        This is just not the case. Read again

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    Everything can be summarized in one Chinese idiom (成语):
    过河拆桥

    Aka: Crossing the river, then dismantle the bridge.
    You’re already crossed it, why care about the bridge, you wont be using it anymore.

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      So like burning your bridges in English? Although I guess that’s more for people. Maybe more like pulling up the ladder behind you.

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        The English version is “I got mine, fuck you.”

        Also applies to immigrant minorities who them vote conservative to keep other immigrants out.

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          I keenly remember this Polish immigrant in Britain interviewed on TV who was in favor of Brexit very overtly so than no more people came.

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        I think how “burning bridges” is generally used refers to not leaving yourself a way out. However in this case we’re talking about not leaving others a way in.

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          Yeah, burning bridges refers to, like, telling all your coworkers to go fuck themselves when you leave a job.

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      What and the conservative states trying to prosecute people in the Democrat states is 合久必分?

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    This was done to keep our Catholic roots in check. I’m no longer a Catholic-aligned guy as a result. My producer was Catholic-aligned and Jesuit-associated for his entire life until he started making changes he felt was right with his higher power.

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    Within a single generation. My grandfather showed up here at 11 from Romania. Never became a US citizen. His son, my father, is a rabid anti-immigrant racist Fox News fan boy. It’s disgusting. Ironically my mother’s great-great grandmother lost her birthright citizenship by marrying a Finnish immigrant before the 14th amendment existed and had to reapply for her own citizenship along with her husband because women’s status was tied to the male head of household at the time, and now he rants about how birthright citizenship is wrong, despite being the exact person who benefits from it.

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      His son, my father, is a rabid anti-immigrant racist Fox News fan boy.

      Ding!

      Ask not for whom the right-wing propaganda tolls, rest-of-the-world, it tolls for thee

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    One way the wealthy and powerful stay that way is by constantly promoting the narrative that it’s those poorer than you who are your enemy, not the bosses who starve you both.

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      There are two ways to deal with one’s position in the Social Ladder: one can either concentrate one’s efforts in climbing up or one can concentrate one’s efforts into keeping the ones below down.

      IMHO, the US used to have mainly the former, but not anymore, whilst the UK (at least by the time I got there, in the 00s, and since) has mostly the latter (and judging by this traditional idea that “people should know their place” reflected in British Theatre and Humour, it has been so for a long time).

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    Yeah, sorry OP.

    Racism has always and will always be a part of America’s identity. I’d go so far as to say I think it’s part of human nature, given how pervasive and common it’s been throughout all of human history.