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Peter Thiel sells his Tesla stake
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Telsa price goes up
Lolz. Lmao even.
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Rich Mean Boys.
Hope he loses everything
Soo… gold and silver then? No clue how crypto is gonna hold up.
Wait, crypto is still alive?
Well, Bitcoin is down about 25% from it’s high a couple months ago so there’s that.
Thriving. The Trump Era has been gangbusters for crypto, as he’s made all sorts of crazy promises about building a federally financed coin reserve and stuffing it with digital crap.
The whole fucking thing needs to crash to the ground.
Hilarious that at the end of this specific article, for me, an ad popped up advertising AI investing 😂 Jesus we are so fucked
Honestly, if someone is goi g to pick shit at random, I rather have AI do it for 5 bucks a month than abnaker for 200k a year.
Of you’re going for chaos based investing, just buy a goldfish
The next year before the Midterms is going to be a wild circus.
The next year before the Midterms is going to be a wild circus.
The criminal attacks on the entire democratic process will be at a new peak.
I hope your 401K is diversified because this will bring down a lot with its fall.
I hope your 401K is diversified
When the MAG7 makes up half the S&P 500, its hard to get away from. Even if you somehow manage to avoid holding a big tech company (or a company that’s predicated on the spending of a Big Tech company), a downturn will force cascading sell-offs.
Does anyone 401k even let them choose what they want to invest in?
I have like 4 plans I can choose: Retire 2035, Retire 2045, Retire 2055, Retire 2065 and that’s it.
No options in the portal to do anything else. I can’t choose my stocks, any indexes, anything. The only other page is to change my contribution percent.
I have a 403(b) because I work at a university but yes we get to pick between a ton of stock funds but also a handful of blended assets, an invested bond, and a non-invested bond if you really think shit’s gonna go south. My last job did not offer this kind of thing tho.
If it isn’t diversified, then you’re not investing. You’re gambling.
i hate peter thiel but i also hate nvidia and tesla so i hope this ends out somehow being bad for everyone
It will end badly for us.
Oh, it will. Bad for everyone human.
My bet is that he’s trying to start a panic in the markets. That way he can clean up on a short.
I would say I am fairly sure its some kind of afinancial crime to uh, short a company you have a material position in…
But we live in ‘interesting times’, so… who knows!
… Maybe he had an ‘interesting chat’ recently, with Michael Burry.
That would be ‘funny’.
I think it’s cute you believe that we live in a world where financial crimes are actually prosecuted.
Wouldn’t that be below somebody like Thiel? I mean, he is a professional and this seems a bit too much “amateurish”…
Is this sarcasm or do you really believe it?
He believes that there is a bibilical antichrist alive right now, and he can stop it but also shouldn’t. He’s disconnected from reality so severely, he lives in a completely different world. The fact that he’s rich is not a testament of his professional capabilities, but to the fact that in current capitalist environment, the only prerequisite for being rich is to be lucky and have zero morals
This comment is a joke, right?
I don’t say it would MORALLY below him, quiet the contrary, but more from a skill level. Acting so obviously would be just amateurish.
Acting so obviously would be just amateurish.
Please stop thinking of these people as massively brained smart people, instead of just being rich and lucky. These guys are just in it to make the number go up, don’t think they have any floor to how low these fuckers would sink
It would indeed indicate some kind of corrupt insider trading knowledge
You are assuming he’s doing it himself, instead of on advise if his financial advisors
Wouldn’t that be below somebody like Thiel?
He asks about the anti christ
Nvidia has near monopoly on semiconductors. Even if Nvidia stocks crash, they will recover. I just trimmed my own shares on Nvidia to cushion the blow.
They have a near monopoly on cloud service genAI data center GPUs. They don’t make the semiconductors. They just hand the design for those chip to TSMC and then sell what TSMC makes for them. The vast majority of their revenue right now is coming from selling stuff to new genAI data centers, if those stop getting built, they loose 80% of their revenue. And their current valuation is based on an assumption of an order of magnitude of new such data centers being built year on year.
I think, that it’s very likely that demand for new such chips is liable to drop to 0 because the capacity of currently extant data center using their chips is already overbuilt for realistic demand. No one other than Nvidia is making money on these data centers, and there is no path to profitability.
Thanks for the info. Silly me didn’t realise Nvidia doesn’t manufacture semiconductors. I thought Nvidia also does because they are one of the leaders in GPU. Speaking of GPUs, at the very least they command the GPU market.
Not really. TSMC has a near monopoly on the advanced fabrication, and ASML has a near monopoly on the lithographic machines TSMC uses. Nvidia is a fab-less designer. Google has its TPUs, and Amazon has some kind of custom chip too.
I also invested in TSMC.
ASML is way too expensive for my taste. I’ve been hoping they will do split stock so I could get in.
Even if Nvidia stocks crash, they will recover.
NVIDIA is up 1500% in two years, with a p/e ratio of 56 in a market that’s absolutely ravenous for semiconductors. The idea that the demand for semiconductors can flatline as data center production stales and NVIDIA’s valuation will just rebound to its current high is… well, it’s highly speculative what NVIDIA is going to do, but I wouldn’t bank on the current status quo.
If nothing else, it’s a stock that can safely be described as “overvalued”. Selling now isn’t a bad idea.
Can we get a TL;DR for those who hate clickbait, please?
From what I can tell, it looks like there are a lot of loans out right now, the rate at which they are issued has increased since the beginning of the Trump presidency has increased dramatically, and this is like really bad because If those loans don’t get paid back then pillars start collapsing underneath the financial system. Lose too many of those and the whole thing comes crashing down.This one graph doesn’t represent all of the bad that is going on, it’s just a sort of a weathervane to tell you which way the wind is blowing. …and right now it’s blowing where the sun don’t shine.
You may ask what are NDFIs ?
(NDFIs) such as broker-dealers, hedge funds, private equity and credit funds, securitization vehicles and subprime auto lenders. Such lending to the financial sector has helped fuel record-high leverage among hedge funds, decade-high leverage among primary dealers, record-high and rising margin debt, and record-high and rising repurchase agreement (repo) lending to hedge funds and others, which in turn has helped fuel record-high asset prices in many cases
source again https://adamjosephson.substack.com/p/ndfi-loans-are-far-larger-than-we
Sucks that even though I’m not invested in anything, when this pops I won’t be able to buy food. Thanks a lot, wealth and “security” chasers.
Isn’t this an interesting property of market economies?
Software and silicon chip manufacturing has literally nothing to do with food production and yet a ‘disaster’ (I.E. going back to the status quo as of a few years ago) in that industry will affect your ability to eat. Nothing has happened to the farmers or their fields, or to the logistics system that moves food from one place to another, and yet somehow things suddenly can’t find their way from where they are produced to where they are needed.
Remember, this is supposed to be the most efficient way to allocate resources.
eyup. I mean considering it was more about not having housing before and now its about not having food we can see where things are going.
I thought we decided to not post stonks crap in here. It‘s what completely ruined the technology community over at Reddit before the entire site was ruined.
When we are in the middle of a tech bubble and one of the richest and most connected men on earth decides to cash out, then that is not “stonks crap”, but relevant tech news. Some companies stock price rising by 2% is not news, but this? Yes.
The underlying story is the AI bubble that we all know will end badly. They are shoving lying and hallucinating AI on our devices and into our employment without consent. It’s going to come down, its a matter of when, not if.
AI bubble that we all know will end badly.
7 to 11X bigger than sub prime crash in 2008. NGL: watching Real Estate agents eating in soup kitchens was not a tragedy.
Unfortunately, these stocks being high are directly related to so much of the tech world being complete shit right now.
You see that is exactly the problem I have with these posts. You don‘t actually know if the trading portfolio of a mega evil asshole actually has any impact on the technology world. Stocks are just gambling and he could make the wrong move here. Like 90% of high traffic posts in r/technology was just random billionaires trading stocks at some point. It was utterly pointless.
While true, I gotta suspect that Peter Thiel, specifically, gets to peek under the hood before he makes his bets to a degree that most of us can only imagine.
This is the American version of Kremlinology: just like then all manner of non-political actions of members of the Soviet elites were studied to try to predict the direction of the Soviet Union, now all manner of non-political actions of members of the American elites are studied to try to predict the direction of the United States.
The reason for that kind of thing is that in systems were almost all of the real thinking, motivations and even politically revelevant actions of the elites controlling those nations are hidden or disguised, the only way to try and deduce what’s going on is to look at those things which by need or because they’re deemed to unimportant aren’t hidden or disguised.
Peter Tiel’s bulk stock sales and purchases are one of such non-political data points that might be important in predicting the short- and mid-term future of the US, at least Economically, which in turn has Political implications and more broadly for the future of American and Americans.
Sadly what American elites do in the Stockmarkets tells us a lot more about were they see the country going to than what they say, which itself already tells us way more than what Politicians say.
It’s a lot better than the practise of posting basically every news story because it tangentially involves a computer.
I want to see it, lemmys got a bigger problem with individuals trying to control what everyone else sees, you have many options like blocking the poster
That means the peak is here. The insider of all insiders sold? Dump everything!
Yep.
I read this and actually said aloud “Oh Dear God.”
I mean, I’m a poor, I don’t have… a pension, investments, I’ll be lucky if my net worth ever exceeds the FDIC guaranteed $250k…
But uh yeah, yeah, if you have any uh, exposure to the stock market… uh, good luck!
Have fun realizing you were actually just barely less poor than me, this whole time.
was gonna say. they guy whos company is to to have all the information. mmmmmm.
Imagine if he waits for people to panic and sell off and then buys back into the market.
In this case, I expect that the market is due to tank for real soon, so that would maybe be a stupid move, but it seems like in general someone could literally trade on the perception that they’re an insider (regardless of whether they have real inside information or not) to manipulate the market in their favor.
I imagine this should count as illegal stock market manipulation, but the government would be too toothless to prosecute it.
I imagine this should count as illegal stock market manipulation, but the government would be too in on the scam to prosecute it.
FTFY
This is the government’s favourite sport. What do you think all the tariff announcements and later withdrawals are doing?
The MAGA government will get in on it. Trump will probably make some kind of ridiculous statement to kick off the plunge, so they can all profit on the slide, and rebuy at the bottom, and recycle the bubble.
They’d probably encourage it
The word is regulatory capture, and the game is upwards wealth transfer.
lol. prosecuting one of the in crowd? They’re not toothless (in this case at least), they’re just protecting one of their own.
The government did it itself just way bigger.
Who cares tho. Anyone who sells now still made massive gains. Only gamblers think about “potential gains”.
gamblers duck in and out over the course of hours and days with leverage
They’ll wave it off as him deciding Elon is the antichrist he’s been moaning about
