Out of all the stupid shit you can make fun of us for, this is what you chose? We’re fat, poorly dressed, uneducated, Pop Tart eating, loud, obnoxious, Cowboy, casserole eating, douchebags and THIS is what you came up with?
What you listed are extremely mild stereotypes that Americans have heard a million times even from other Americans. They are about as offensive as “French eat croissant” or “Brits drink tea”. And these kids clearly want to be offensive to Americans
You can tell this one really hurts us (us being Americans, not you and me) because of the reactions. You have someone on this thread threatening Greenland with CIA drugs.
Like we look bad enough without this shitass reaction people are having in these threads.
Marginalized with little support, a very american trait, and exactly why them pointing it out as an overall criticism of “America” hurts. They hit the mark.
You really can’t see the broader context here? You’re really incapable? They’re not posting to hurt the marginalized, they don’t care if they ever see it. They’re posting for the rest of you, as commentary that this is how you end up in a selfish suportless individual culture. It’s exaggerated of course but it’s packing some heat. Again, very effective.
They’re not posting to hurt the marginalized, they don’t care if they ever see it.
The method they’re choosing to do this is to mock the marginalized. When you’re resorting to “the end justifies the means” to excuse behavior, it’s probably time to take a step back and really look at what you’re saying.
They are not punching down. They are punching up at the richest and most powerful country the world has ever seen which might invade their home soon. Are you really going to spend your time tone policing children from Greenland?
I think the fent lean becoming such a widespread thing America is known for says something about how Americans “take care” of their vulnerable population.
It’s some kids making a video that pokes fun of their would-be conquerors. Yeah it’s distasteful, I agree. It’s also hilarious to start tone policing scared kids facing threats of invasion for insulting those who want to attack them.
I’m with you. I welcome all kinds of resistance, but this one misses the mark for me. Not because of anything being offensive, but because of drug addiction being incredibly sad
They go together. A lot of Americans are stressed out poor–destitute people just trying to make it to their next paycheck.
That’s why we have weak protests and also why a shithead like Trump lying and saying he’ll fix it, has a chance politically.
The wealth gap is wider than ever, and that’s going to be what finally pushes the country one direction or another. I’d rather that we didn’t have to collapse to reform things, but the billionaires probably aren’t going let reforms that will hurt their number happen.
We’re gonna have to eat the rich, but it’s probably going to cost countless poor people’s lives.
All those school shootings are incredibly sad. Kids deserved none of it. And I don’t only mean death, injuries and trauma for kids who experienced it, but also the “combat” training and fear for kids fortunate enough to only hear about it.
And over the years, US did nothing to stop it.
Drug addicts are definitely a much better target for jokes.
Because I can’t understand how the same people can be oversensitive about others mocking their drug addicts and not riot about their kids being regularly shot at.
because it’s not “american culture”. It’s people suffering and not receiving help. American culture would be big [DENIED] on healthcare claims but this is kinda lame.
That’s the quintessence of American culture: Not helping those people, but causing and making their suffering worse for profits instead. So yes, those people existing in large numbers is an aspect of American culture.
No. I’m not. What I’m saying is they think they’re about to be invaded, and possibly killed by this country, so the invading people don’t get to tell them shit. And regardless, it’s commentary on a society that’s allowed it to happen. And also regardless, stop trying to tell satire what it can and can’t lampoon. It’s annoying.
Thats… did you actually read my comment, the last 1/3rd ish?
Further, you’re not really even describing an insulting stereotype, with your new scenario.
You’re describing using a specific insult term.
A slur.
Can you see how that’s not the same thing as a stereotype?
I also find it funny that you would even use the term cracker to describe a white resident of Greenland… when … well, you would think that if there is some equivalent term in Greenlandic or Danish, it’s probably not the same term, or a transliteration of it.
You’re projecting your own cultural frame of reference onto another.
Meanwhile, also in this thread, I’ve got another critic assuming I am going to justify the usage of a ‘tactical slur’.
I’m not permaonline enough to know precisely what that means, but it is funny to me that on the one hand, one person is criticizing me for assuming I would argue in favor of that, yet I’ve also apparently offended your sensibilities, and you’re throwing out cracker, specifically as a slur.
Wrong. The correct answer was “because dropping N bombs is racist”
Dunking on vulnerable drug addicts / thinly-veiled racism
“silly stereotype”
saying cracker
“Hey, stop throwing around slurs!”
Ah, so youre just one of those “reverse racism” types. If you seriously get all flustered about “slurs” when the word “cracker” comes up, I think we all know what side you’re on.
I’m in a place with similar temps to nuuk, a skin layer, cotton or shirt insulating layer, and a jacket is all you need, and even then you’ll get sweaty if there too much insulation. IDK where 3+ layers comes from, people who don’t have cold weather clothes and are layering thin cotton? Who count a scarf and hat as a layer?
Oh, I hear its nice, I have a couple homies that ended up over there. I wanted to visit, along with the rest of SEA, but I nearly melted in Vietnam, so I can’t go any further south.
Why would i mock greenlanders? I empathize with them.
It’s not like they’re going around throwing shit at everybody on the international stage or something,
They should be posting videos of normal classrooms full of kids learning to contrast how okay Americans are with their children being shot to pieces in their classrooms.
Out of all the stupid shit you can make fun of us for, this is what you chose? We’re fat, poorly dressed, uneducated, Pop Tart eating, loud, obnoxious, Cowboy, casserole eating, douchebags and THIS is what you came up with?
This shit is funny: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_tMD5bTbLM
Sounds like its triggered you, and thus has worked.
No, it doesn’t matter how its triggered you, or why.
The point of trolling is simply to excite a response of agitation, indignance.
You’re a fuckin’ dork, dude. lol
You’re the one who’s been succesfully trolled by kids in another country.
I could be way off here, but I assumed it was a dig at Trump who keeps using drug cartels and supply of fentanyl as reason to murder and invade.
What you listed are extremely mild stereotypes that Americans have heard a million times even from other Americans. They are about as offensive as “French eat croissant” or “Brits drink tea”. And these kids clearly want to be offensive to Americans
You can tell this one really hurts us (us being Americans, not you and me) because of the reactions. You have someone on this thread threatening Greenland with CIA drugs.
Like we look bad enough without this shitass reaction people are having in these threads.
The reason this hurts people on lemmy, who tend to lean left, is because it goes after the most marginalized people in our society.
Marginalized with little support, a very american trait, and exactly why them pointing it out as an overall criticism of “America” hurts. They hit the mark.
If you and every conservative american pundit are going after the same group, maybe take a step back.
You really can’t see the broader context here? You’re really incapable? They’re not posting to hurt the marginalized, they don’t care if they ever see it. They’re posting for the rest of you, as commentary that this is how you end up in a selfish suportless individual culture. It’s exaggerated of course but it’s packing some heat. Again, very effective.
The method they’re choosing to do this is to mock the marginalized. When you’re resorting to “the end justifies the means” to excuse behavior, it’s probably time to take a step back and really look at what you’re saying.
Effective at making a bunch of libs throw another minority under the bus, sure.
Because punching down is never really funny
They are not punching down. They are punching up at the richest and most powerful country the world has ever seen which might invade their home soon. Are you really going to spend your time tone policing children from Greenland?
Yeah, that’s what american exceptionalism and “news” does to you.
Apparently insulting is a step too far for American sensibilities.
Shooting dead, no biggie.
But insulting? How dare you!
Insulting drug addicts. You gonna go after trans people, minorities, homeless peopke, prisoners next?
I think the fent lean becoming such a widespread thing America is known for says something about how Americans “take care” of their vulnerable population.
It’s some kids making a video that pokes fun of their would-be conquerors. Yeah it’s distasteful, I agree. It’s also hilarious to start tone policing scared kids facing threats of invasion for insulting those who want to attack them.
Only if they are American.
Scratch a liberal…
We’re like 30 seconds from yall bringing back the “tactical <slur/homophobia/transphobia/ableism> discourse”
Shut it fag, stop being a retard and let the scared snowmen have their fun.
There. 0 seconds.
They’re not American, so no.
Tone policing Trump’s next victims? Are you out of your skull?
I’m with you. I welcome all kinds of resistance, but this one misses the mark for me. Not because of anything being offensive, but because of drug addiction being incredibly sad
Sadder than being American?
They go together. A lot of Americans are stressed out poor–destitute people just trying to make it to their next paycheck.
That’s why we have weak protests and also why a shithead like Trump lying and saying he’ll fix it, has a chance politically.
The wealth gap is wider than ever, and that’s going to be what finally pushes the country one direction or another. I’d rather that we didn’t have to collapse to reform things, but the billionaires probably aren’t going let reforms that will hurt their number happen.
We’re gonna have to eat the rich, but it’s probably going to cost countless poor people’s lives.
Imagine both at the same time
All those school shootings are incredibly sad. Kids deserved none of it. And I don’t only mean death, injuries and trauma for kids who experienced it, but also the “combat” training and fear for kids fortunate enough to only hear about it. And over the years, US did nothing to stop it.
Drug addicts are definitely a much better target for jokes.
That’s a weird thing to bring up
Because I can’t understand how the same people can be oversensitive about others mocking their drug addicts and not riot about their kids being regularly shot at.
How is it weird? School shootings are peak American culture.
Good advice, send it to Trump.
It’s American culture so why shouldn’t they mock it?
because it’s not “american culture”. It’s people suffering and not receiving help. American culture would be big [DENIED] on healthcare claims but this is kinda lame.
That’s the quintessence of American culture: Not helping those people, but causing and making their suffering worse for profits instead. So yes, those people existing in large numbers is an aspect of American culture.
So mock the people causing snd making the suffering worse, not their victims.
So its american culture then?
No, no, this is American culture.
Its a very real part of millions of Americans lives.
You’re just showing your privilege by instead prefering insults based on a part of American culture that is … more applicable to yourself?
Maybe just less overtly grisly, disgusting?
… that’s not how insults work.
The goal is to offend you, and it has worked.
The fact that you are offended by a stereotyped depiction that is being wrongfully applied to you?
Yep.
Thats a stereotype, thats what that is, that’s how that works.
An innacurate caricature that is applied far too broadly.
I guess you’re just not used to having a hurtful stereotype be applied to you.
Do you think it would be fair for some Greenland crackers to start calling Americans N bombs?
YES BECAUSE WE ARE INVADING THEM. JESUS CHRIST. YES. ITS FAIR. IT’S ALL FAIR GAME UNTIL WE ARE NO LONGER TRYING TO DESTROY THEIR OWN CULTURE.
Racism and ableism are never okay. Period.
Pretty sus that you’re arguing in favor of white people being able to say the N word. You’re probably a racist.
No. I’m not. What I’m saying is they think they’re about to be invaded, and possibly killed by this country, so the invading people don’t get to tell them shit. And regardless, it’s commentary on a society that’s allowed it to happen. And also regardless, stop trying to tell satire what it can and can’t lampoon. It’s annoying.
No.
But fairness has nothing to do with an insulting stereotype.
Why wouldnt that be fair?
… because all insulting stereotypes are unfair.
Thats… did you actually read my comment, the last 1/3rd ish?
Further, you’re not really even describing an insulting stereotype, with your new scenario.
You’re describing using a specific insult term.
A slur.
Can you see how that’s not the same thing as a stereotype?
I also find it funny that you would even use the term cracker to describe a white resident of Greenland… when … well, you would think that if there is some equivalent term in Greenlandic or Danish, it’s probably not the same term, or a transliteration of it.
You’re projecting your own cultural frame of reference onto another.
Meanwhile, also in this thread, I’ve got another critic assuming I am going to justify the usage of a ‘tactical slur’.
I’m not permaonline enough to know precisely what that means, but it is funny to me that on the one hand, one person is criticizing me for assuming I would argue in favor of that, yet I’ve also apparently offended your sensibilities, and you’re throwing out cracker, specifically as a slur.
Wrong. The correct answer was “because dropping N bombs is racist”
Ah, so youre just one of those “reverse racism” types. If you seriously get all flustered about “slurs” when the word “cracker” comes up, I think we all know what side you’re on.
So you kinda answered and reinforced what I said. American culture it is!
bEcAusE tHaT wOuLd bE CulTuRaL ApPrOpRiAtiOn, wHiCh iS vErY iNsEnSiTiVe
Well if you’re not 300kg, it’s hard to pretend you are in a 15s tictoc.
And at least it’s original, unlike your played out examples.
You just wear 5 shirts under your clothes.
It’s Greenland, they already are lol
OK, stuff some sheets in there.
I’m in a place with similar temps to nuuk, a skin layer, cotton or shirt insulating layer, and a jacket is all you need, and even then you’ll get sweaty if there too much insulation. IDK where 3+ layers comes from, people who don’t have cold weather clothes and are layering thin cotton? Who count a scarf and hat as a layer?
Forgive me, I’m in Bali.
Oh, I hear its nice, I have a couple homies that ended up over there. I wanted to visit, along with the rest of SEA, but I nearly melted in Vietnam, so I can’t go any further south.
Understood entirely, the humid heat can be so draining. It’s spectacular though, and the people are beautiful.
Bad clothing.
Would you find a video mocking Greenlands rampant suicide problem funny? Because it’s the same idea, mock the vulnerable and weak.
Why would i mock greenlanders? I empathize with them.
It’s not like they’re going around throwing shit at everybody on the international stage or something,
Neither are the fent fiends whose lives have been destroyed by addiction!
No, it’s just what they’re starting with. I’m sure kevlar school wear and reinforced chairs will make an appearance at some point.
They should be posting videos of normal classrooms full of kids learning to contrast how okay Americans are with their children being shot to pieces in their classrooms.
Nice teeth, Cornwallis.
Hey, what’s wrong with casseroles?
Have you ever ordered casserole at a restaurant?
Yeah? I’ve ordered enchiladas, mac&cheese, mousaka, and baked ziti in restaurants before, and those are all casseroles.
Oh? And Tacos are a sandwich, right?!??
Or maybe sandwiches are a taco. I think burritos are some kind of dumpling though.
No, but I make them at home.
I’m American, so I’ll get down on some casserole. Miss me with Tuna though. I just think it’s an easy target for others to harass us for.
The Pop Tart thing seems a little too specific, but okay.
Pop Tarts are more American than apple pie. Sweet processed garbage.
Thank you for reminding me about Abenobashi. Time for a rewatch