I hate the Internet.
Correction: After having no success 'Manfluencers" stage interactions with paid women to make them look fuckable.
or to “subtley harass women, stalk them on camera until they relent.”
Does anything good come out of meta?
No
When they ask themselves “But how can I be even creepier?”
Filming people in public is becoming way to socially acceptable. I hate it.
Cowardice in general has become way too socially acceptable. Actually the norm. If you G-d forbid act so that you can be unambiguously determined as not a coward, then G-d help you.
And cowards understand each other very well. You can even expose them all as cowards, they’ll accept the shame and admit you’re right and all such, and then they’ll still feel victorious, because in a society of cowards cowardice always wins in all ways but one.
Living like “Hagakure” for real is perhaps the only way to preserve your humanity in some life situations, but that won’t lead to happiness. And the author of “Hagakure” refused to commit seppuku when his suzerain died, because “times have changed”.
And meeting people who live by those principles, you damn hard wish they hid or cowered or stepped back that one time that led them to pain for their remaining lives from those not worth their breath.
I’m thinking of a woman, by the way. Men of that quality are far more rare.
Every single ‘manfluencer’ is a closeted loser who specifically wants to take your money and cause you to be alone and miserable like they are. Every time. They should be openly ridiculed and loathed, and I hope this trend just elicits legal action and ends quickly, and that minimal harm is done to the victims in the process.
I dunno. From my experience, just pretending you’re “all that” is enough to make women and girls go crazy.
yeah narcissism can temporarily make one interesting until the other person realizes what they got themself into, thats how people end up in abusive relationships
Since these guys don’t really look for something long term it’s probably not an issue to be exposed as shallow after the act
Yeah, as long as they smash, they win.
I bet you the Venn diagram of doing this crap and being incapable of comprehending why women picked the bear is a perfect circle.
What does “picked the bear” mean?
If you are a woman alone in the woods, would you rather come across an unknown man, or a bear? It’s a thought experiment. As a human woman, which represents a greater immanent threat?
It’s not really a thought experiment, though. It’s a hyperbole, a funny way to say women are afraid of the toxic masculinity types.
I’ve always thought this is such a generalist scenario, meant to deliberately portray all men as dangerous and categorically make them look bad. Imagine we swapped out “men” for another group of people.
If you actually listened to the reasoning that women gave (crazy, right?), they were very clear that with a bear, you know where you stand, but with men, you can’t tell right away whether they’re a danger or pretending to be nice only to be harmful later on.
Any men who get offended by this fact is part of the problem.
meant to deliberately portray all men as dangerous
If this were true, wouldn’t it be dead simple for women to just pick the man? It’s interesting that a lot don’t, right?
Because most people have a Disneyfied idea of what animals do. Most people think a bear in the woods wears a red t-shirt and carries around a honeypot.
Most species is bear don’t hunt people. You see one, you back away slowly, and you’re good. If there’s food in your, you drop it. They’d rather eat your granola bar than you.
Well, if it’s a black bear, shouting and waving your arms will normally chase it off.
It’s not meant to be a realistic scenario. It’s satire.
So, how does choosing a bear with a honeypot make men look bad?
Uh, it doesn’t? It makes the person choosing the bear look like someone whose life consists of entertainment.
Are there non human women?
See Pam Bondi.
Every other genus: “We don’t want her either.”
I would have given Kristi Noem as an example. Fun fact: her full name is Kristi Lynn Arnold Noem
KLAN
The question always struck me as dumb. Because it doesn’t make any attempt to clarify what geographic region this question takes place.
I don’t care what you’re afraid of a man doing, a polar bear is ALWAYS the worse choice.
But not all bears are as aggressive as polar bears. Some bears will run away from you if you chase them. Some bears will end you if you chase them.
Of coarse you can’t determine how dangerous a man is based on region. But you can likely determine which regions have dangerous bears.
Without wading into all the technicalities, could we perhaps agree that if you have to say, “what kind of bear tho’,” that we are already in troubling territory?
I would take “worse than a panda” as a compliment, but I understand your point.
It’s ironic we’re dissecting which kind of bear is dangerous, while implicitly accepting the premise that all men are dangerous.
If the dangerous men were as easily distinguishable from the not dangerous ones as bear species, then the answer would be different. Because that’s women’s entire point - you often can’t tell until it’s too late
That’s not at all what is implied by the thought experiment. It’s not all men, it’s a random man. And it’s not that they are dangerous, it’s about what feels riskier from a woman’s perspective.
That’s why all the fretting over which kind of bear is missing the point. It’s not about arguing with women that they are wrong, it’s about listening to them and understanding that they have no idea whether the man is the sort that would kill them if they say or do or don’t do the right thing — but the odds are sufficient that all men must be treated like a potential threat.
It’s not all men, it’s a random man. And it’s not that they are dangerous, it’s about what feels riskier from a woman’s perspective.
How is that different? It’s still a prejudice based on somebody’s unalterable trait. The entire premise is a deliberate generalization to place men and wild animals into the same category.
Do polar bears occupy habitat that could realistically be called “the woods”?
I always assumed this question was referring to a brown bear - black bears are pussies and polar bears are instadeath. Pandas are adorable, obviously better than meeting a man. Other species are unlikely for most english speaking people to meet in the woods. Brown bears are the only species that make this question interesting.
Where I’m from, you’re just as likely to get a polar bear as a black or brown bear in the woods. So it’s all unrealistic.
A polar bear in the woods? They’re an aquatic mammal that lives on sea ice… Where are you from?
a black bear did drop on a hunter and killed it in the news last year.
Would you rather have a man drop on you in the woods or a black bear?
You forgot the Dropbears. Want to reassess relative threat levels of the various species of alpha predator?
Yeah I’d pick a man of a dropbear any day 🐨🩸☠️
It presumes black bear. You’re over thinking it.
It’s a stupid thought experiment, though, because I think that woman who chose the bear have not seriously considered the possibility that it might be a polar bear!
(Like, if it’s a regular bear then you are probably fine, but you have to think about the worst case scenario here!)
Wow are you entirely missing the point.
Yeah bro. It’s obviously a grizzly because polar bears are going extinct soon.
My point is that global warming is going to drive them down south, and I don’t think that any of us are prepared for this.
I for one am trying to do my part by correcting one thought experiment at a time!
You didn’t correct it though. You added a random element to an existing thought experiment based on the way the world is as we currently know it. That’s like “correcting” the trolley problem by saying “but what if aliens appeared with a second switch that saved everyone!?”
All I am saying is that if polar bears were wandering around the forests then people might have responded differently.
But having said that, arguably the thought experiment is not meant to be taken too literally in the first place. It is really more like meme mean to be shared and responded to than a serious scientific assessment of the actual risk involved in running across a man versus a bear, especially since the risk posed by the bear depends on the region and what species live there.
But of course, all of this is besides the point, because what is important about the thought experiment is not that so many women choose the bear by that it expresses a collective sentiment of general severe distrust towards men, which came about because enough men have regularly abused their position of strength and power—which, unlike assessments of the relative risk of men versus bears, is definitely backed up by statistics—to impose themselves physically on women, and this is a big societal problem regardless of whether it actually literally makes more sense to prefer running into a bear over a man in the woods.
And just to be clear, I am not criticizing the thought experiment so much as that I love the image of polar bears wandering around in the woods.
Polar bears do not live in the woods
Well then where the fuck do they shit?!?
They rip off your head and shit down your neck.
Only steers and bears?
I think those are the ones that shit on the pope?
Ah so the bears are catholic
I want to believe!
Fuck I hate being male sometimes. What swamp do these skeezy sexist MAGA guys crawl out of?
This particular sleaze is definitely male perpetuated and worth calling out. But shittiness knows no gender (or age or ethnicity for that matter.)
Well, he’s right
Of course he is. He’s in IT!
It’s fun being deeply ashamed of your gender because some of us are filth and scum.
These fuckers harm everyone with their actions. Wish we could do something actionable about it.
You’d be surprised how many of these guys didn’t vote for Trump. Incels and woman haters exist across the spectrum. What we need is for social media to actually ban this content. But it makes them money.
if it’s any consolation, does make the bar for picking up woman incredibly low, makes it easier for the rest of us i think. just don’t be a complete creep and your at top of the curve
I recently re-entered the dating pool for the first time in a decade and it’s incredible how much attention I get from just appearing clean, having my shit together, and not posting a picture with me holding a fish. Never got so much attention from women before in my life. Had a date in like one week.
The bar is very, very low. I am sorry, ladies out there.
Lots of women who I know and date say “the bar is in hell.” Fr just be a functional adult with good hygiene and emotional intelligence and you are in the top 1%.
and emotional intelligence
Thank you for telling me I’m unfit.
say “the bar is in hell.”
This reads like a joke or an exaggeration, but it’s really there.
I must be doing something wrong then lol
appearing clean
It means he’s attractive.
having my shit together
It means he has money.
If you lack both of these, it’s going to be rough.
I mean, I am 6’3”, have all my hair, and have 20% bodyfat, but there’s no indication of my financial status on my profile. I’m financially independent but I live in a modest house and have a practical, not fancy car. I’d say I’m a fairly normal lanky nerd that’s slightly on the spectrum.
Point is, I feel like an average 50th percentile guy overall, but I’m getting a lot of attention, maybe 90th percentile based on what I read online. Still get ghosted a bunch, but who cares.
I’m friends with several women: no it doesn’t, and no it doesn’t.
Having your shit together means your room doesn’t have a pile of garbage building on the floor. It means you’ve hung up 1 piece of art to make your white walls more interesting. It means your carpet was washed within the last 3 months.
Yours is the exact attitude that causes women to flee. Bitterness is not attractive.
This is honestly better than what I’ve encountered. At least they are trying to attract a woman.
There are types who can both hate a woman’s personality and envy those she likes and hate her for not liking them, all at the same time.
But yes, being male, I’ve been recently inspired by reading about medical advancements in procreation without boys. This will be necessary to counter the population growth on the side of various shmucks and their abused wives.
(I’ve recently learned I have no right to call myself a shmuck since 13 years ago.)
Eeuww…yikes.
I remember ages ago some show on tv that had a prototype style of these glasses where the person also had to wear a huge backpack and it was like a gotcha style show but it turned out most people just wanted to try and help whoever was wearing the the stuff and I’m rambling.
The show skeeved me out but my parents were like “oh look how bulky it is, you’ll know if someone is using it!” And I tried to articulate yeah, and we use to only have record players and now I have a cd player but they waved it off.
Stomping around annoyed I was right!
EDIT: Return of the Glassholes
I would be interested in watching the crash reel though. Creeps.
google glasses was to cringey/.
I would watch someone successfully negotiating buying a used car for a good price at a dealer.
See, this is the kind of thing we need those glasses for. Just blur the face and the name tag, alter the voice. Not doxxing anyone. Then show what happened in a non-sexual situation.
But no. People have to use it like perverts.
when the google glasses came out temporarily it was used by perverts immediately.
There’s a word I could have done without in my vocabulary.
What, you don’t like being manfluenced? Something off-putting to you about manfluence? What’s wrong with being a manfluencing manfluencer?
They’ve got a case of manfluenza.
That’s some manfluency
Probably easier if they use their hands instead
Or if in America a fork lift.
I assure you, they can’t do that either
*Get approached by some dude in glasses
*He hits on you
*Leave
I feel bad for people who need glasses
This is just going to popularize thin rim glasses haha.
Yeah I was thinking, don’t these creepy glasses stand out?
I’m partial to OVVO, I tend to be pretty hard on frames (-8 prescription, I can’t not wear glasses), but the two pairs I’ve had have been nigh indestructible- deceptively sturdy especially given how thin and light they are. (Bonus points for not being part of the eyeglass cartel too)
OVVO: I wish they would use normal human models. These alien beings would look good with poop on their face.
I’ve already adopted the transparent frame: nothing to hide, only my undivided attention if they’d like to geek out about their special interests or just want someone to listen.
I just talk to women like I talk to men.
It’s how I talk to everyone when I’m not masking or following social scripts. It’s the most fun I get out of social interactions.
At least you think you do…
I’m definitely going for transparent frames of some sort when I get my next pair
I’m blind without my glasses. I’ve thought about surgery but I’m wear ansi safety glasses anyway - I know what it is like to go to the bathroom without my glasses - that is okay in the middle of the night - but I have no interest in my whole life being like that so I’m protecting my eyes as best I can.
The solution involves hammers.
