“It is not a mild infection, it is not a mild virus; it is a severe illness. And they kept on telling me they wish they’d known beforehand how bad measles was, so that they could have protected their family,” she said.
I fucking wonder why there was such a considered effort to create a :: checks my notes:: fucking vaccine!!!
NO SHIT ITS NOT A MILD INFECTION.
The entire world came together to eradicate a disease that we knew could not only debilitate but kill.
We spent years to formulate a preventative treatment that allows our bodies to survive infections, but some looneytunes sounding twat decides that vaccines are the devil and now that very same disease has open and unprotected vectors to be spread through.
Chickens coming home to roost.
Antivax parents are the worst kind of stupid - well intentioned stupid. And children are paying the price. Some of those parents even refuse to change their stance because the cognitive dissonance of admitting they were wrong about their beliefs is worse to them than the knowledge that they tortured and possibly killed their and others’ children. These people need to be committed.
Edit, typo
Happened with a lot of that group during the pandemic. Loved one would die, but they’d still bitch about the vaccine.
Also, just a heads up if you care. You wrote “partying” when you meant “paying”. I’m pretty sure.
but they’d still bitch about the vaccine.
My favorite were the ones that refused the vaccine, mocked others for getting “the jab”, posted daily on social media how the government was evil for mandating vaccinations (which it wasn’t). And then, after they contracted covid and at the 11th hour dying from the infection, they beg for the vaccination (which would be like throwing a cup of water on a wild fire) and cry about the unfairness as they wither away and die.
Fuck anti-vaxxers
Idk, fuck anti-vaxxers and all, but watching anyone wither and die as they beg… is pretty fucked up for anyone to see. I do ICU nursing, and the pandemic left me with some ptsd; 10/10 wouldn’t recommend
Thanks, and yeah I remember. One older guy was dying in the hospital because his lungs were practically melting and he was asked if he regretted not getting the vaccine. He replied that not only did he not regret it, but that he’d do the same thing again given the chance. He literally died rather than change his mind. It’s the definition of insanity.
It’s a cult and it is so freaking weird.
Recent exposures have been linked to large school events in January and February — including state wrestling championships at Utah Valley University, which resulted in multiple people being diagnosed with the illness.
Three new cases confirmed in eastern Utah were also connected to a high school wrestling tournament last month, the Tri-County Health Department in Vernal announced Thursday.
What I find baffling is that they aren’t banning wrestling.
Wrestling is obviously the issue here, not vaccines.
Erases your fucking immune system essentially and can leaf to a brain infection that kills. Go read about Roald Dahl’s daughter. Bad guy, but a horrible fate for that innocent girl.
How could that have happened? That is SO strange that Obama would do this.
"Most people survive measles, though in some cases, complications may occur. About 1 in 4 individuals will be hospitalized and 1–2 in 1,000 will die. Complications are more likely in children under age 5, adults over age 20, and pregnant people.Pneumonia is the most common. Most people survive measles, though in some cases, complications may occur. About 1 in 4 individuals will be hospitalized and 1–2 in 1,000 will die. Complications are more likely in children under age 5, adults over age 20, and pregnant people. Pneumonia is the most common fatal complication of measles infection and accounts for 56–86% of measles-related deaths.
“Possible consequences of measles virus infection include laryngotracheobronchitis, sensorineural hearing loss, and—in about 1 in 10,000 to 1 in 300,000 cases—panencephalitis, which is usually fatal. Acute measles encephalitis is another serious risk of measles virus infection. It typically occurs two days to one week after the measles rash breaks out and begins with very high fever, severe headache, convulsions and altered mentation. A person with measles encephalitis may become comatose, and death or brain injury may occur.
“For people having had measles, it is rare to ever have a symptomatic reinfection.
“The measles virus can deplete previously acquired immune memory by killing cells that make antibodies, and thus weakens the immune system, which can cause deaths from other diseases. Suppression of the immune system by measles lasts about two years and has been epidemiologically implicated in up to 90% of childhood deaths in third world countries, and historically may have caused rather more deaths in the United States, the UK and Denmark than were directly caused by measles. Although the measles vaccine contains an attenuated strain, it does not deplete immune memory.”
—Wikipedia
In April 1975, at nine years old, I had chicken pox, measles, and strep throat, one right after the other. I know when it was, because I remember laying on the couch, watching TV and seeing that the Vietnam War had ended. I didn’t even know there was a war.
I suppose I got through it okay because I was young and also lucky. I do remember it was pretty fucking awful. Especially needing to try to keep up with my school work at home.
VARICELLA was pretty pervasive prior to 1995-2000s, everyone had it, even with vaccine it wont give you full immunity against varicella infection, or stops it from becoming dormant. apparently if you get chickenpox before the vaccine, it does little against shingles reactivation. i was in a sub where people were getting subclinical wild type of chickenpox and then shingles like 10+years later.
My mom’s friends brought their kids over when I got chicken pox for a party, as they used to. I remember wondering what the hell was going on. This was a year or two after you got the trifecta. Chicken pox was bad enough, that must have sucked.
i remember had to get aveeno bath for chickenpox, dint realize i had the vaccine in '99 until i checked, because i got shingles like late 2000s.
You see, the reason you didn’t know was because we had eradicated it before you morons decided you were smarter than the entire science and medical community because you watched some youtube videos
I once had a neighbor tell me they “didn’t agree with liberal views on vaccines.”
You know, like germs give a flying fuck about your political views.
The irony? This person is a nurse.
I worked in nursing for a while
I worked with a few excellent people, many average people, and a horrifyingly large number of absolute fucking halfwits
That’s my experience with the medical field as well. It breaks my heart, I used to trust doctors, but after some interesting experiences I am now convinced it’s all a minstrel show held together with bailing wire.
I think it helps that I’m lucky enough to live in a civilised country, rather than 'Murica
Nurses are either brilliant, wonderful, helpful people, joe-schmoe’s looking to make a buck, or radical traditionalist women who think that it’s ok to be a nurse because it’s women’s work.
If it were a different country, I’d be ratting her ass out to the medical board.
Algorithmic engagement prioritized this shit over established medical science. Big Tech undermined all the pillars of society. What a fucking mess.
Capitalism. Capitalism caused this. Big Tech is just a vessel that is used by capitalists to further their agenda.
Big Tech is a force multiplier. It amplifies the scale and scope of the damage. To make an analogy, it’s like replacing muskets with machine guns. Capitalism was headed this direction long before tech came along, but with tools like these in their pocket, the scale of the disinformation went from “a serious problem” to “an existential crisis”, and the tools we have to resist it are simply incapable of holding the line against the firehose of BS.
At the end of the day those people chose to believe some random blog over medical journals, university publications, and the advice of doctors. There is no other word for that than stupidity, algorithms or no.
Blaming stupidity itself fails to address those who seek to exploit it.
No matter the cause or effect, stupidity is the root of the problem. You can’t exploit a weakness that doesn’t exist.
Unfortunately, I was reading somewhere recently (I think it might have been a t-shirt?) that, “you can’t fix stupid.”
It was taught in our schools, along with the black plague and others.
we had eradicated it
Clearly we hadn’t.
We horded the vaccine domestically, patented efficient methods for manufacturer and distribution, and curtailed it’s use in states we considered too poor or too evil.
Some of the highest rates of measles today can be found in Yemen, a country we’ve been bombing since the early '10s.
We didn’t exterminate the disease. We incubated it. And now we’re reaping what we’ve sown.
we also curtail other vaccines too, like HPV limited to women MOSTLY unless some how you can convince your doc/insurance to approve it, Meningicoccal menigitis vaccine, we know majority isnt “susceptible” enough to be eligble but still.
Darwin fish > Jesus fish again.
And they kept on telling me they wish they’d known beforehand how bad measles was, so that they could have protected their family
We’ve been trying to tell you, but you stuck your fingers in your ears and insisted you knew better. And once you’re over the measles, instead of using this newly-acquired realization to revisit some of your positions, you’ll stick your fingers right back in your ears and refuse to listen to us about anything else you’re wrong about. So enjoy your measles, and all of the diseases you’re going to catch again because measles reset your immune system, and I fucking hope you get shingles.
Sadly, it’s not usually those that make the decision not to vaccinate that are infected. It’s their children. Most parents have had mandatory vaccination.
I think that puts an additional degree of ick to the whole thing. You can do your “research” and decide that “the vaccine is worse than the disease it prevents,” but don’t do so while you are protected, endangering others that you claim to love.
Should be a law if you don’t trust science to get vaccinated, you can’t use hospital resources when you’re sick. Do your research and figure it out.
Sounds great in theory, absolutely rancid in practice. It would lead to a massive increase in infections in people who actually did get vaccinated or who are otherwise immunocompromised.
Also in this case it would just punish those poor children even more for the stupidity of their parents.
Or planes or cars or computers, etc, etc.
Especially not with measles, that shit is way too dangerous and way too contagious.
The idiots will cull themselves
And get innocent people killed in the prices
They’ll do that either way.
I honestly believe that this will happen over a long period of time. As more diseases and pandemics come back, the people who don’t get vaccinated will die in larger numbers, leading to natural selection against stupidity. Unfortunately it will also take out the vulnerable.
ive seen more infections circulating around ever since Mr brainworms removed any vaccine mandates, or defunded vaccine research. now we also see people resisting getting vaccines in general now too.
Antivaxxers should love measles because there’s a chance it can completely wipe out your immune system which is like a human factory reset.
Measles is worse than the actual illness, which bad and kills. It resets the immune system so the immunity that is built up over a lifetime is lost. Definitely don’t get it as an adult.
