The morality of torturing children cause they’re not from the chosen people.

  • postmateDumbass@lemmy.world
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    Humanity needs to decide what level of barbarism we will collectively tolerate.

    Israel has been way over the line for a while.

    If we allow them, Team Trump, and the rest of the greed first lobby to continue, i can only hope for total and complete nuclear destruction.

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      We can only hope for nuclear destruction, it’s one of the few things that ANYONE can do to pay for the crimes of Israel

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      There needs to be a better way to enforce geneva conventions and UN resolutions for countries at the top. Otherwise they’ll only bring them up when it’s convenient for them.

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      Mengele surgically attached children to each other to recreate “Siamese twins”. He removed the eyes of a twin and implanted them into their sibling. He injected Typhoid bacteria into small children and opened their skulls without anesthesia.

      The IOF is a gaggle of genocidal maniacs. They torture, maim and kill. They are not worse than Nazi Germany. Little of what humans have done on this earth is worse than Nazi Germany.

      • rwrwefwef@sh.itjust.works
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        Little of what humans have done on this earth is worse than Nazi Germany.

        Maybe you should have a look into the Japanese “operations” in occupied China, then.

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        I’m not convinced we won’t hear about similar done in Israel. If they had any scientific incentive to do so, I have little doubt they would be willing to.

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    In some ways we should be treating the state of Israel as a serial killer. Obviously we and any courts are better knowing about this. But should we be concerned that publication changes behaviour?

    In some ways “hopefully” they are brazen and psychologically disturbed enough that it doesn’t. Because this baby could’ve quite easily just disappeared, if they thought this coming out would make them look worse. I’m sure it’s happened.

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    This is pure evil. The Jewish god is a monster…fortunately he does not exist. Believe what you want, but for me, this is proof that atheism is the correct choice…because this evil is committed in the name of the Jewish god…who is also the Christian and Muslim god…If you’re Muslim, then the Zionists are telling you that your god sanctions this against you - because they knew him first (invented him, actually). If you’re Christian, then the Zionists are telling you that your god wants this, so shut up and let it be…or he won’t send his son back to free you from your Earthly burdens. I believed in god for over 50 years of my life. This sick shit finally proved to me that god is a lie, because if god was real and as loving as I was taught, then he would be livid at these acts. I guess Christians can soothe their conscience with “what you do to the least of these…”

    I find that god cannot exist while simultaneously allowing atrocities to be enacted in his name. If you disagree, that’s fine…but for me, even if god once existed…humankind killed him with their ingrained wickedness.

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      This response is exactly what the fanatics point at when you criticize Israel and they conflate that with antisemitism.

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      The whole “all brown people are religious extremists” was a propoganda is what makes me mad.

      We were always told Palestinians are all fighting in the name of God. Turns out they were just defending themselves from Israel.

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      Jewish god is a monster…fortunately he does not exist. Believe what you want, but for me, this is proof that atheism is the correct choice…because this evil is committed in the name of the Jewish god…who is also the Christian and Muslim god

      Ok, but before you get too high on that horse, it’s worth pointing out that plenty of the most violent Zionists have themselves been atheist, secular Jews.

      Most of Zionism’s progenitors were basing their ideology around fascistic race science of the time. Not on any God-Belief. They believed that European Jews, by virtue of being a diaspora, were a degraded culture that could only be regenerated through colonizing a new homeland for themselves.

      To this day, Israel treats non-European Jews incredibly poorly (still not as bad as Palestinians though), regardless of how culturally or religiously dedicated they are, because Zionism is an ideology of ethnic supremacy more than anything else.

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        Ok, but before you get too high on that horse, it’s worth pointing out that plenty of the most violent Zionists have themselves been atheist, secular Jews.

        I think most American Zionists are nominally Christians. Which makes the whole business of equating Zionism with Judaism even more laughable.

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      Israel is not committing genocide because they are Jewish, they are doing it because they are an arm of the western capitalist oligarchy and maintaining imperialist power in the Middle East is essential for controlling the global trade in oil.

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      This is also because of the thousands of tribes that were told they were the chosen ones, this is the one that survived until today.

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      If one chooses the fantasy, then everything else is secondary, even morality grounded in physical reality. If you can be convinced there’s an invisible spirit who wants you to stone people, then you can be convinced it’s OK to torture babies.

      As the Christians say - no one can serve two masters. This can’t be fixed without addressing the disease.

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      Atheism isn’t ever really someone’s choice. People who are atheist simply replace the “role” that god would have in their life with something else, be it devoutness to science, music, arts, their job, their favorite politician, whatever. Atheism is an absence of a god contruct in the world view of a person. The choice of an atheist is whatever else motivates them in life.

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    Iran fights not just with aggressors, it fights with monsters.

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    This headline is ANTI SEMETIC! Let me FIX it For YOU! “Palestinian Father TORTURES his Child by Not Talking!” NOW it’s NOT Anti Semetic!

    -Governments who Wonder why People are Attacking Synagogues!

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      anyone attacking synagogues is doing so of their own volition and are ACTUALLY motivated by ACTUAL antisemitism. Israel ≠ Jews as a whole

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        I’m sorry but at this point, I don’t care anymore.

        You can call me anti-semetic all you want that term has very little meaning to me now and that’s purely because of the bullshit that Israel is doing to a people that simply can’t defend themselves. The fact that Israel is committing the SAME bullshit that was committed to them nearly 100 years ago because they feel it’s “their turn” is absolute pure evil.

        I can’t stand it. I grew up Catholic but I hate Christianity because of all the bullshit that group has done in the name of God. I can hate the Jews for the same reason. If you’re Jewish and you condemn what your people are doing then great, I respect you for it. Just like I can respect Christians that speak out against the bullshit they’ve done. But Jewish “settlers” burning homes and attacking people because they feel they’re owed the land? torturing infants and toddlers? Call me an anti-semite. I don’t care.

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          In US universities, a lot of the student protesters against the genocide in Gaza were jews, they were called anti-semitic terrorists anyway. We’ve seen the same thing in France, where jews students protested but were still called anti-semitic, pro-Hamas, etc.

          Going with the confusion is very exactly what Netanyahu and his accomplices want: people mad about what Israel is doing taking on jews, so that Israel supporters can label them all anti-semitic and immediately discard whatever they will say.

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          Calling out judaism the religion as bullshit is totally fine, when people talk about anti-semitism i believe they have in mind racial positions against jewish people

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          Once a Catholic always a Catholic. Walking away doesn’t absolve your guilt in participating in belief system that has been one of the most violent forces in history. Why’d you even participate in the first place? Aside of proclaiming your disdain for the institution anonymously online, what are you doing in real life to stop the spread and influence of your religion? Are you targeting Catholics in your community? Destroyed any houses of worship or places where they gather. How do I even know you’re a non-practicing Catholic, maybe you look like one…

          This is what the stupidity of antisemitism looks like. It ignores any subtleties or nuance in the life of an individual and heaps the blame for the actions of some on all, regardless of whether that someone even endorses it or has the capacity to prevent it. Think Joe Jew in Nebraska has any power to stop the Israeli government even if he finds their goals abhorrent? He’s as powerless to stop them as you are.

          You’re upset that some in Israel are harming those who can’t defend themselves, including children. Hate crimes don’t require the victim to actually be whatever the perpetrator thinks they are. You endorse blanket antisemitism and you’ll end up with neo-Nazis shooting up places Jews (or people they think are Jews) are located and unprotected, probably get some kids while they’re at it. Turning your rage against anyone that reminds you of who you’re actually upset with is just redirecting your anger to the most convenient target.

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        I know one synagogue that was attacked was very explicitly zionist, promoting the killing of Palestinians. I doubt it’s every one, but you can’t really be that mad when you’re promoting murdering people for people to want to murder you. This isn’t exactly justification, but it is an example of reaping what you sow, which the Torah does warn about.

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        Exactly, there’s a difference between Jews and Israelis. Attacking synagogues is wrong but AIPAC offices, we can have a conversation about those.

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          For example, I’m Jewish, but I say “fuck Israel.” Except for my one Israeli cousin who keeps getting arrested for disobeying orders. He and his squad are cool.

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        Israel and its acolytes “don’t help” by keeping repeating it’s their biblical right. This results in a unilateral meaning and use of the term “anti-Semitism”.

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              they do.

              "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say: ‘O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him.’

              read a book, it might help you understand

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                “Who does…?”

                “They do…”

                There’s always some vague “they”, isn’t there? Yes, it is promotes by some Muslims. It’s not all, or probably even most, and definitely far from it in western nations.

                The same way I can say the same about Jews, because the Bible promotes killing in order to take land from people they decide aren’t as deserving, this is bullshit reasoning. You can’t just group all the followers of a religion into one belief. Hell, even the people in the same church, synagogue, mosque, or whatever house will have differences in opinion. Your logic promotes spreading hate targeting the wrong people.

                Talk to some people with different opinions sometime. It might help you understand.

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                  the they wasn’t vague, it was contextual, don’t you know how to have a conversation? I never said it was all. if you need specifics, extremist Islamist do. there’s you go, question answered. I didn’t group anyone. I just point out a belief held by many. I also didn’t state any logic, just facts, which you don’t seem to like. btw I’m ex Muslim so I’m well aware of the hatred I was raised in and surrounded by and don’t need you minimising my lived experience just because it doesn’t fit in with your world view. antisemitism is deeply rooted in islam, it’s a fact.

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                I mean in contemporary times. Not like hindreds or thousands of years ago.
                i’m not saying nobody says so. But who justifies war, genocide and land acquisition with biblical/islamic/judaic/… arguments. In this day and age.

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                  Christians, Muslims, Jews, Hindus, Americans. the list is endless.

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        It’s a racist cult sure but burning synagogues is counter productive. Better to lobby for a ban to the abuse these lunatics put their children through.