Some time ago, Iran released video of their underground “missile cities”, in every city and province, miles upon miles of tunnels packed with missile and drone production and stockpiles.
They’ve been preparing for this for 50 years.
whaaaaaat
This must be that “too much winning” Trump was talking about.
You’re so short sighted to not see the advantage of re-writing the Obama Nuclear Deal.
For the low, low price of many billions of dollars, a few tens of American lives, global stability, our military readiness, half of our stand-off munitions, our NATO allies and loss of US influence in the entire world we will have acquired an open* Strait of Hormuz, a ceasefire**, some pretty decent Lego propaganda, the one-time free passage of 8 tankers of oil and a doubling of gas prices to support our struggling fossil fuel industry.
*for China only
**not counting air strikes, anti-ship missiles, mines or fast boat attacks.
The Lego propaganda is not a cost, it’s a boon. I’ve never had a meme folder before, now I do.
meh
Praise be
Do not worry, do not worry, he has already devised a plan, the best plan, the greatest plan to win this war and ensure the continuous communication of the people, because this plan, the greatest plan ever devised, needs Iran to seize control of the Internet Cables to take efect, the best plan.
Inevitably in a few weeks/months, “concepts” of a plan.
Would you say it is the bigliest plan though??
Please mister, Do not saque sus pistolas y se quite el sombrero.
We’ve got them right where we want them!
Hmm, that could get tricky
“foreign bussinesses must operate under Iranian law.” No thanks.
Current list of US sanctions and embargoes
Balkans-related Belarus Burundi Central African Republic China Counter Narcotics Trafficking Counter Terrorism Cuba Cyber Related Democratic Republic of the Congo Iran Iraq-related Lebanon-related Libya Magnitsky Non-Proliferation North Korea Rough Diamond Trade Controls Somalia Sudan Syria Transnational Criminal Organizations Ukraine-related Venezuela Yemen ZimbabweCuba will break any minute now! I can feel it
Strange that Belarus IS on that list, but Russia isn’t.
Russia most certainly is, not sure why they left it off. There’s also a bunch of sanctions against Russia under the “Ukraine-related” category.
I swear I just looked this up the other day… I didn’t realize they would so vulenrable. That’s a bit concerning
I think this describes a lot of critical infrastructure. It’s the “profit” mindedness of governments and corporations to choose to consolidate infrastructure in places that might be risky but cost less. It’s like removing tornado warning systems because they cost a lot to maintain, staff, and operate. So a few people being killed and property being destroyed is “worth it” because it’s cheaper in the long run. So running cables in vulnerable areas is “worth it” because it was cost effective to do so and accept the minor risk assessment that political instability might someday affect them. Same with global energy. It was cost effective and profitable to run so many ships through Hormuz and put a substantial amount of refining capacity in a potentially unstable area. Now we pay the price thanks to an idiot president.
Wouldn’t that just cut their access off?
They already cut the internet out off for themselves except a few elites. So they don’t care.
A bit of an oversimplification. They shut everything down in the first weeks of the war, but have slowly been opening up again in the past few weeks, notably with paid packages that connect to the real internet.
This week they opened up a messenger that works internationally, even if you’re not using the paid international package. It looks like it’s based on the Chinese model, which is likely what Iran’s internet will be like going forward, with a complete purge of Cisco and other Western hardware as well.
I don’t think Iran cares if their citizens can access the internet or not. I presume their military uses satellites for that sort of thing so they won’t be negatively affected by it.
The rest of the world, on the other hand, gets their access to worldwide connectivity held hostage.
The whole world? I see several lines, but it does not appear anyone beside the gulf states would be severely affected.
What I meant by that is the ability to access the entire world interconnectivity - obviously cutting those cables would not affect domestic internet access but people who live elsewhere would not be able to access content hosted overseas in gulf states.
No. Iran has significant terrestrial cables as well as underwater cables. The Gulf states meanwhile rely on cables laid through the shallow and narrow Omani waters, which likely could be cut without affecting Iranian underwater cables, plus Iran has terrestrial redundancy.
The point of this would be to screw with American Big Data.
The undersea cables carry a large share of global data traffic between Europe, the Gulf, and Asia.
do it
idk why “news” pretends not to be absolute bullshit when they write up shit like this
why would a country announce such a thing?
hmmm considering a lil warfare who knows hehe 😉
why would a country announce such a thing?
If you don’t want all-out war, it’s a good idea to announce your attacks so the other side (1) doesn’t over-react, and (2) pays attention the next time you make a threat. Usually the downside is that the other side might use this information to try to stop you. But at this point Iran has pretty much total control of the Persian Gulf, so that’s not a huge risk.
I mean… The US has been doing it. Why not Iran, too?
Oh.
That’s bad, right?
Edit: /s, which I thought was obvious, geez
It means Iran is winning by controlling the Straight of Hormuz.
It means things will continue to get worse until the United States and Iran come to an agreement.
The Iranians have said the war will end on their terms. So far they’ve been right, as the US refuses to accept their terms and they continue to control the Straight.
My prediction is that Iran will insist on everything else but if all of those things are met they will ‘concede’ the straight back to open waters like it was before the US fucked everything up.
👏👏👏👏
Don’t worry. Even without the /s, I thought it was obvious. World is filled with morons though.
but it comes with a free frogurt - that’s good!
lol, that takes me back
Seems pretty short term gain for Iran by pissing everybody off.
Because surely the cables can relatively easily be rerouted over land, instead of paying Iran’s tolls. Unlike the tankers, the Internet signals do not need to go though the water.
And how would Iran even justify forbidding the cables from going through the part of the strait which is not their territorial waters? The same way Iran “justifies” forbidding ships from doing that? - as in, no real attempt at a moral or legal justification.
it’s war. pissing people off is par for course.
But Iran would be pissing off everybody - for example China and India. Not just the US.
War is pissing other people off. But does Iran want to be at war with all other countries in the world?
It would be a huge interruption of service for one and then the huge cost of replacement.
Submarine cables exist because it is superior to land when done on scale.
Submarine cables exist because it is superior
Submarine cables are usually cheaper and simpler at intercontinental scale, especially because they avoid negotiating rights-of-way across many countries. But unlike oil tankers, internet traffic is not physically constrained to the Strait of Hormuz itself. Capacity could be rerouted over terrestrial fiber links around the Gulf if the economics changed enough.
The bigger issue would probably be the time, permits, and infrastructure investment needed to build enough alternative land routes. Not any physical impossibility of carrying the signals over land. The cables themselves are likely pretty cheap.
And permits should be quite easy to come by, in the empty desert of the Arabian peninsula.
That can be rewritten to say, “Iran mulls starting a hot world war 3.”
If foreigners come along and want to tell me what i have to do and what to allow, meddle without remorse in my local politics and lastly don’t change their behaviour when suddenly i acquire power, it’s not me starting the world war. This is on the US (and also the german CxU)
Ok…I get America. Why is Germany on that list?
Because they help the US…?
Friedrich Merz is still trying to sneak up Trumps arse.
You overestimate the value of intercontinental ground telecom.
