It’s not hard to find videos of self-driving Teslas wilding in bus lanes. Check the videos out, then consider:

"There was an interesting side-note in Tesla’s last earnings call, where they explained the main challenge of releasing Full-Self Driving (supervised!) in China was a quirk of Chinese roads: the bus-only lanes.

Well, jeez, we have bus-only lanes here in Chicago, too. Like many other American metropolises… including Austin TX, where Tesla plans to rollout unsupervised autonomous vehicles in a matter of weeks…"

It’s one of those regional differences to driving that make a generalizable self-driving platform an exceedingly tough technical nut to crack… unless you’re willing to just plain ignore the local rules.

  • tinsukE@lemmy.world
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    8 hours ago

    Can AI driven systems handle anything? Not reliably, no.

    There, fixed it for ya.

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    If tesla’s “AI” was used in airplane autopilots, there would be a crash every 12 hour and the entire fleet of tesla-AI aircraft would be defunct by the end of the year.

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      14 hours ago

      You may not have much experience with autopilots, so no. There are different levels of autopilots in aviation, not just the full control with auto-land you may be thinking of. I used to fly a small prop plane with single axis autopilot. much less capable than Tesla full self-driving. However it was safe and useful because I understood its capabilities and limitations. I knew what to use it for and what not, so even an extremely simple analog autopilot successfully reduced pilot workload, improving safety

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          Well yeah, because Tesla don’t make planes so their FSD wouldn’t know what to do when in control of a plane.

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    15 hours ago

    It can’t stop when running directly at a wall but you expect it to handle special lanes?

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      Rober got absolutely destroyed, and rightly so, for that BS video and “test”. He didn’t even use FSD - he just drove straight into the fake wall and then claimed FSD did it. We could literally see the cars screen showing FSD wasn’t on, or even autopilot.

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            Fuck me man over 800 comments in less than a month?

            Just put the phone down and go get some air

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              I work on a computer 8-10 hours a day. I can multitask very well. 800 comments in a month, most which take like 10 seconds to type and hit post, is not some insanely difficult challenge.

              How about instead of trying to shame people - while posting on the same site nonetheless lol - you try and post something on topic or productive? Or maybe use that time for something better?

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            I’m not kink shaming, but do you have a humiliation fetish? Everywhere you comment you get dragged, and yet you are one of the most prolific commentators on this site.

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              “you get dragged” lol

              People slinging personal insults doesn’t bother me. It amuses me tbh because they get so riled up and make up all these imaginary things in their mind - like what you just did.

              People who are wrong, or who don’t understand what they’re talking about, trying to correct me isn’t getting “dragged”. Just because other people in the circle jerk agree with them doesn’t mean they’re right.

              I don’t care what any of you think btw. It doesn’t affect me, I don’t pay it a second thought. I could have had a dozen conversations with you and I wouldn’t even recognise your username because it means nothing to me.

              But keep trying, whatever makes you feel big on the internet :)

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    Teslas ai is based off of its drivers in crowdsourced data, they are assholes who break the law. Yesla “self driving” will NEVER be safe.

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    It’s actually extremely straightforward to mark lanes as “bus-only” when you map out roads, but that’s assuming you’re not being micromanaged by a moronic egomaniac.

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      It’s actually extremely straightforward to mark lanes as “bus-only” when you map out roads

      Yeah… until they change. And municipalities are not known for thoroughly documenting their changes, nor companies keeping their info up to date even if those changes are provided.

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        If the road is marked as bus only, surely it’s still bus only? That’s how it works here at least, road signs etc. are applicable until removed. Doesn’t matter if it’s still there because government forgot to remove something. You obey the signs because they keep the roads safe.

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    First video was from somewhere around Toronto, Canada (my guess is Mississauga). Some places have very unclear signage of when bus lanes are active, when they’re not, disappearing in and out of existence sometimes, but that was a clear red lane that combined with lane data the Tesla’s camera based navigation system should have been equipped enough to handle it…

    Sucks for the driver letting Tesla net him a fine and demerit points.

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      Sucks for the driver letting Tesla net him a fine and demerit points.

      Nah, they are also responsible for not correcting the situation whan the defective self driving feature put them in a bus lane. Same as if they let their cruise control rear end another car.

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      I agree with you that often the signage/lane marking suck and it takes a bit to figure it out. But me as a human, I’ll remember the next time I travel that route. The Tesla continues to have zero prior knowledge every time.

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    I wouldn’t set foot on anything associated with musk after he sold out the country to the Russians to enrich himself m. The man could not spend his money in. A million lifetimes and what does he do to us? Grabs more.