I think I’d cum if I stepped into that 2000’s future. Place looks hella cool. 1950’s future just looks like car dependent AI slop and 1980’s future looks really bright and light polluting
(1953) The War of the Worlds
(1966) Fahrenheit 451
(1973) Soylent Green
(1984) 1984
(1999) Matrix
(2004) Children of Men
(2012) The Hunger Games
(1984) 1984
Thanks for the list, ChatGPT.
Also if you want to be an asshole, the title is Nineteen Eighty-Four.
its 1984 arsehole
i think i saw that one. whole lotta booty in it
Hmm, I think you’ve got a mistake in there bud. /s
It’s a fair joke.
The 1970s and 80s sadly was the start of the apocalyptic shithole future. Look up cyberpunk. The 90s economic computer boom really lead to a lot of optimism, but that is long gone now.
Educated people saw the 2020 vision as far back as 1950s. They warned us many times, but we never listened.
“we”
You mean the rich and powerful who could’ve solved the systemic environmental issues didn’t, who got it told directly all the time. Who could’ve done something against Exxon and the others. Don’t lump the masses together with such assholes.
There /is/ a large portion of the masses who are perfectly aligned with the goals of the rich and powerful and are happy to shit on their own doorstep for even a moment’s convenience
Propaganda, indoctrination, and de-education, especially when applied over generations, are a hell of a force.
I mean ‘we’ as everyone collectively, as society. It’s just manner of speaking. I wasn’t even alive for most of the time frame mentioned, so I’m perfectly aware not everyone was actually able to ‘listen’ to the warnings.
I mean… people have been calling the apocalypse since ancient times. Because that’s reality. Every civilization falls, every society fails, and it’s often via war and violence. We simply have been able to become more connected and harm each other on larger scales over time.
And when exactly did humanity ever had the power to destroy the planet prior to the industrial revolution?
You’re just repeating one of the usual shit arguments climate deniers are spouting daily.
We still don’t have the ability to destroy the planet. We just will make it uninhabitable for the number of humans that are currently here, which has happened quite a lot in human history.
Elder millennial here. I knew I was in an earth destroying dystopia the entire time.
Yeah we grew up causing and then fixing an ozone hole.
Well, if we had risen up against the rich, instead of letting them rule the world at least the last image would have been avoided.
Keep dreaming m8
Last time the wealth disparity before rich and poor was anywhere close to current one, we call it “medieval dark ages”.
Terminator (1984), Terminator 2 (1991), and The Matrix (1999) have entered the chat…
Don’t forget Mad Max
Soylent Green. Alphaville. Logan’s Run. A Clockwork Orange.
Planet of the Apes.
I hate every chimp I see, from chimpan-a to shimpan-z
Rock me Dr. Zaius!
Dr. Zaius KICK!
I love legitimate thee-ay-ter
Oh man. Soylent Green is pretty fucking close to what we’re living right now.
- Climate change
- Housing being out of reach for working people who are now living in staircases and in the streets
- Women losing their rights and becoming “furniture”
I mean most of all human civilization has had those very things though. The climate change part is a bit more recent, but housing has and always will be problematic, and women along with anyone that looks ‘different’ are typically the first people subjugated in human civilizations. When you think about it at a high level, humans kind of suck overall.
Yeah. Humans suck big time.
at least two years ago they were trying to grow meat (for consumption) and body parts (for implantation, so i guess consumption too) in vats. ain’t heard much about that, but there has been bigger stuff to worry about.
Yeah. Lab grown meat is a thing.
So is meat created from feces.
dammit science the long way was better
Spoiler for Planet of the Apes
Mad Marx
Terminator: “War is inevitable.”
Terminator 2: “Actually, maybe not.”
Terminator 3: “Oh yeah, never mind, there it is.”
Terminator: Arnie is the bad guy
Terminator 2: no wait, the first one made him a huge star so he’s the hero now!
Terminator 3: Quick, let’s squeeze one last one out before he becomes The Governator in a few months!
I thought Terminator 4 was pretty good, but I like that you didn’t even give an opinion on Terminator 5
Would be pretty unfair of me anyway, since I’ve only seen the first two myself 😁
MelodiousFunk: They made a Terminator 3?
Apparently 🤷🏻
Me putting the 3rd in to rewatch if it was that bad:
The third, believe it or not, windows 95 desktop background.
True Names (1981), Software (1982), Neuromancer (1984), Hardwired (1986), Wetware (1988)
Cyberpunk is lowlife and high tech. It’s completely dystopian. The early 1980s was the height of the Cold War with Reagan in power. People were not optimistic about the future in the 1980s, they were just hoping that it wouldn’t end in a nuclear war.
Lest we forget Blade Runner (1982)
Blade Runner still had civilization. I’m not sure we’ll be that lucky.
Gad civilization… in the far flung future of 2019! 😉
Deckard missed Covid!
that’s a cool chat. I’d smoke a blunt with em
I do miss feeling optimistic about the future
Don’t worry, we were fucked since before you were born. We overshot our ecosystem long, long ago, it just takes decades for the consequences to catch up.
You’re just in the wrong country, aligned with the wrong set of politics, speaking the wrong language.
The future isn’t American anymore. The future is Mexican and Brazilian. The future is African. The future is Chinese.
Climate change doesn’t stop at the border, lol.
The ability to endure it and survive - even thrive - in the face of it will vary heavily based on national leadership.
I mean the ability to survive it will be based on where you are located. And for the billions that are unable to survive it, they will either start wars with those who can, or will die in the process, or both.
Or peacefully migrate to areas that are sustainable and contribute to the project of rebuilding.
But, again, the capacity to build and supply life sustaining amenities and the political willingness to distribute them in order to curry political favor rather than just generate profit will be central to a country’s power projection into the late 21st century.
So where is that going to be? If the rest of the world doesn’t run that way (which isn’t possible), what do you think happens then? When sea rise lifts things a couple of meters, billions are displaced. You aren’t simply going to put them somewhere else. Europe currently is struggling with climate and war migrants, the US is the same.
the rest of the world doesn’t run that way (which isn’t possible)
It is possible. And the bitter irony is that it would be better for everyone on average. Just not better for a few specific people on the whole.
When sea rise lifts things a couple of meters, billions are displaced.
Where will they run to? Not the US Gulf Coast or the Dutch flatlands. Not to the low lying Caribbean Islands or the coastline of Japan or Australia.
The most Climate Change friendly regions are going to be high altitude but still retain access to lots of potable water. Curiously enough, that looks like… Iran, Venezuela, Afghanistan, and the Horn of Africa.
All those Western yahoos screaming about illegal immigrants are on track to become ones. And right back to the countries they spent generations pissing off.
Tell that to the vast swathes of the globe, including China, due to face lethal wet bulb temperatures within the next 10-20 years. Which, along with mass death, means massive breadbasket failures on multiple fronts. Ain’t politicking our way out of this one, chief.
Yeah, and someone was just arguing with me in a different thread saying vertical warehouse farming is stupid and we should just grow our crops in the ground outside 🙄
Like, I’m trying to be helpful here, but sure let’s continue to make no systemic changes to the way things are done and just be frustrated when our problems only continue to get worse…
lethal wet bulb temperatures
Europe wants to rebalance trade with Beijing, but can’t quit Chinese air conditioners
One country is producing all of the world’s air conditioners. I wonder if they’re in a better position to endure wet-bulb temperatures than their peers.
Ain’t politicking our way out of this one, chief.
They absolutely can and will. This is a country that can build the infrastructure to keep people from dying of overheating. What’s more, this is the country that can export that infrastructure globally, such that its allies will see improved survivability. And that will have cascading knock-on effects.
The ability to survive climate change is the ability to operate as a global center of gravity.
I think you missed the ‘massive breadbasket failures’ part of my comment. You can’t air condition a field of rice. Well, you could, but good luck trying that on the scale needed to feed everyone once crops begin to fail globally.
You do realize how many people in the world live in houses that aren’t even fully-enclosed, right? Usually in some of the places that will be most impacted by climate change, too. Air conditioners won’t be of much help to them.
Also, do you know how much coal China burns each year?
many people in the world live in houses that aren’t even fully-enclosed, right?
It’s crazy that you treat this as an insurmountable obstacle. Much less that there’s no political cache in surmounting it.
Are we talking about the same country here? Where in “southern” provinces like Sichuan there is no heating provided in buildings? And people rely on electric heaters and blankets to stay warm?
Kind of, I guess. Depends on if there any animals larger than a cat left after the temperature change stops and levels off.
Depends if we can adapt them quickly enough to survive.
Brazil has been dismantling our biotech sector for 20 years now, so I’m not optimist, but YMMV.
Anyway, I’m more optimist on avoiding problem than on dealing with it.
Yeah just do your best and help others while you’re here, lol.
High temperatures don’t preclude large lifeforms. Just ask the dinosaurs.
But you need the ability to adapt at speed and scale for the entire ecological colony. You can’t rely on biomes that cater exclusively to a handful of apex predators.
The rate of change is faster than any in the planet’s history, I don’t have high hopes for many species surviving.
The planet has been undergoing the 6th global extinction event in its history for over 30,000 years. During this time period, humanity has flourished even as millions of other species have died out.
That, and natural resources. Idk how many freshwater lakes and rivers Mexico has but it’s not looking good for the ones they do have.
Doubtful. Climate change as well as its economic impact will affect most of these areas especially hard
i mean, this mostly applies to american mindset. “work hard” is a function of progress; in the absence of progress, it stops making sense. and people who only knew how to work hard their entire life suddenly see that way of life ending.
there’s a lot of americans who think that way. “work hard and you can make it”. nah
a lot of people are realising that hard work != success. A lot of people are quiet quitting and other shit.
Quiet quitting fell out of favor when businesses simply started laying people off. Wild how that works.
i wish my personality let me do that. i’m kinda loud. i wrote a (bad) song about that stupid boss and played it at open mic night.
Bizarre lack of reflection
Understandable, but ysk that it is an illusion. You always think the past was better than it is now.
lol ignoring the entire Cold War
Finally, all the time in the world to read my books.
That last example is from the original Fallout game, which came out in the late 90s, not the 2020s.
That’s not the implication or reason it’s being used, at all.
Yeah we know, but nobody cares, because this post is ridiculous
Please do elaborate
I mean the rich are building bunkers so the bottom Fallout 1 death screen is appropriate if you know the lore of the vaults/bunkers.
I’m reminded of the futurama time lapse when Fry is first frozen. Destroy, rebuild, destroy, rebuild, and so on…
In the year 252525…
The backward time machine still won’t have arrived…
