• JayDee@lemmy.world
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    How many people actually live in the Falklands. Looks like there’s mostly nothing on that island.

    I know Falklanders want to remain in UK control majority-wise. I also somewhat get why Argentina wouldn’t want what is essentially a potential base of operations off their coast (though realistically they couldn’t really do anything about it even if they did have sovereignty over it).

    At the same time, i can’t really make sense of why the hell have the british fought to keep ahold of the Falklands. Maybe just because the british just love collecting shit that means nothing to them but have major significance to other nations’ people? I don’t really get it.

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      Helpful, but is there more context here?

      Such as who are there people currently living there and therefore voting in this referendum?

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        The descendants of the only people to live on the islands since pre-history. Literally the only people whose opinions count, including the uk population and government. It doesn’t matter what the Argentinians or the British think really, same as Greenland - the people who live there want to be a part of the uk

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    So Messi believes that Argentina should colonize the Falklands? Man I really wish he had just stayed a football autist.

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    How’s that inflation going? At least you have a few people that are good at kicking a ball around though.

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    eh, I don’t care about this honestly. actually i don’t think they even care, it’s just getting a rise out of the country they beat. Argentina had way worse problems with racism to worry about this imo.

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    Argentina played some of the dirtiest WC soccer I’ve ever seen. Grabbing the English goalie’s arms during a corner kick, regularly shoving opposing players in the back and grabbing their jerseys when they got the ball during a fast break. The referee only handed out a single yellow card, and let everything else pass.

    Messi wasn’t doing it so overtly, but everyone else especially Simeone, were just blatant. Have no dog in this race, but that was just gross.

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      4 yellow cards, 1 for England, 3 for Argentina. Martinez, Romero, and De Paul all got carded, as did Anderson

      Personally, I think the ref should have started handing them out right from the start to set the tone, but then I hate dirty football. I personally think you should beat the other team by playing better football

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      Throughout this tournament, I’m legitimately baffled at some of the things that aren’t even considered fouls, according to the announcers. Like defenders literally tackling players to the ground. The announcer; that’s good clean play, no foul there, that’s great defense, good “no call” by the ref. Might as well start wearing helmets and pads and calling this football now…

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    These types of displays were banned by FIFA, no? If so , shouldn’t there be some kind of disciplinary action?

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      They were, but IMO there shouldn’t.

      The “no politics” rule strips people of a big platform to protest against injustice and further other righteous causes, and that’s the INTENTION the corrupt leaders of FIFA had.

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      They have to double check with FIFA Peace Prize recipient Donald J. Trump before they make any calls, they don’t want to accidentally discipline the wrong team

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      Red card everyone in that pic. Then the next day say you had a chat with Milei and now the coach is red carded too.

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    No sabía que esta red estaba tan llena de fachos; qué decepcionante cómo defienden tan férreamente al colono inglés en las respuestas.

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        Wait, who colonized Argentina? And wait who was first to the Falkland Islands? I genuinely don’t understand why you think Argentina wanting the Falkland Islands has anything to do with opposition to colonialism.

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        Opposing colonialism is being a sore loser now?

        Please recount to me the tales of how the Falklands war ended up going in the 1980s. I’m fascinated by your take.

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        You are aware that the first inhabitants of the Falklands were French? There was nobody to be colonised.

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            Does Argentina belong to the Spanish? Why do you think Argentina should take them? Who lived in Argentina before the Spanish came? Who lived in the Falkland islands, nobody.

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              Let’s recap islands history:

              Deserted, no permanent population.

              French set up a settlement.

              English makes another, fight the French.

              Spain buys French port, fights British.

              Britain leaves.

              Spain leaves.

              Deserted, no permanent population.

              Argentina sets up a settlement.

              England comes back, fight them off.

              Conclusion: “rightfully British”? The law seems to be whoever smacks the other in the teeth and takes it by force, so I suppose that’s accurate.

              However, having had a settlement in the island, Argentina’s claim is as valid as the UKs, and they just got smacked in the teeth so my verdict is that Argentina takes over administrative control over the Islands up until such time as they meet again in a world cup.

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                You’ve still not explained why Argentina should be allowed to colonise it and Britain shouldnt.

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                  No one should colonise anything. But the difference between Argentina and The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland (God save the King) is as vast as, well, the distance between London and any point in South America

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              Because “sail around the world and claim what you want” is fucking great if you’re playing Monopoly. Less great to sort out world affairs in a modern world.

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                But if the islands were empty before? Like there’s islands who have thousands of years of history of people living there. But then there’s also those who just doesn’t. Are they supposed to stay empty? All humans always bad, or something?

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            Ah, yes, the fact that prehistoric Fuegians may have visited the Falklands surely means they’re the birthright of Argentina. Airtight anti-colonialist explanation.

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                Literally no one was there when France landed there, so you can either a) ask France and Spain for their thoughts, b) resurrect the Fuegians who visited and let them have it, forcibly deporting the people who’ve lived there for centuries, or c) disregard pragmatism and say they aren’t part of any country – either way, you can stop obnoxiously trying to defend Argentina’s baseless colonialist claim under the guise of “anticolonialism”.

                To the extent it belongs to anyone, it obviously belongs to the UK far more than it does to the asshurt losers who flaccidly tried and utterly failed to assert sovereignty over it.

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                  it obviously belongs to the UK far more

                  No land “belongs” to anyone, least of all to the asshurt losers who flaccidly tried and utterly failed to keep their empire alive

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    I can’t think of a nation with a bigger chip on their shoulder than Argentine. It’s kind of weird.

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      It’s absolutely bizarre, they have no legitimate claim to the islands. It’s like someone moving into your house when you are on holiday, and saying it’s theirs.

      Plenty of countries have uninhabited islands as part of their territory, it doesn’t mean they’re up for grabs.

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        Had they not invaded there’s a good chance they would be Argentinian by now, which is the funniest part of the whole fiasco.

        Gave Thatcher an easy election win, which is genuinely unforgivable.

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          That’s the fucking part that blows my mind. They were about to get it back for fucking free. But the Military Dictatorship had to Military it up and then not only got their asses handed to them, but also gave Thatcher and Reaganomics the boost of a lifetime.

          Every single time I see anything argentinian named “LAS MALVINAS ARGENTINAS XYZ” it feels so fucking pathetic. They put it on a (now worthless) 50 peso banknote.